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Digest - 2 Jun 2000 to 3 Jun 2000 (#2000-161)

Sat, 3 Jun 2000

There are 15 messages totalling 426 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. What if Nick Found a Cure? (9)
  2. Regarding e-mails to Sci-fi Guys
  3. Breaking the "Equal Opportunity Gawking" Glass Ceiling on FORKNI-L :-)
  4. FK Commercial Wave File (2)
  5. NY Party Announcement
  6. Need an e-mail addy.

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:01:03 +1200
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

Cousin Raven:
> Actually, despite the fact that he'd be mortal, he would still have no *proof*
> that vampires exist.  He's more of a threat to tell the world about them as a
> *vampire* because he *is* the proof.

Hmm yes...but he would also be seen as a more direct threat to their
personal existance.
 He would know everything about them. Their habits, where they slept, their
vulnerablities etc. Not that I beleive he ever would harm them, but other
vampires don't know that. In fact they may well think he may become a hunter
because he was seen to not like being a vampire and therefore vampires in
general.
So the question now is...would they wipe his memory if they chose not to
bring him back across or kill him? And how would LC react to being erased
from his son's mind forever?

Kylie.
knightraven@c.......

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:54:25 -0500
From:    Rebecca Hinson <thanato@b.......>
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

Knightraven wrote:

> So the question now is...would they [the Enforcers] wipe his memory if they
> chose not to
> bring him back across or kill him? And how would LC react to being erased
> from his son's mind forever?

I think they would probably try to, but I think that LaCroix would offer to
watch Nick.  I agree that LaCroix couldn't handle being apart from Nick and not
having that sense of control anymore, so I think he'd be among the first to keep
an eye on Nick.  Since LaCroix is an older vampire, the Enforcers would respect
his wishes (hopefully) and let him watch his every move.  If Nick would decide
to try anything at all, then LaCroix would visit and let him know what the
Enforcers want to do and basically give him an ultimatum.

And if Nick still didn't listen?  I think Laroix would be the one to eliminate
him because LaCroix would want that control up until the moment of his death.

~Becky

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:03:49 -0500
From:    Rebecca Hinson <thanato@b.......>
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

Llarian wrote:

<snip scene describing>

> Hope this helps you!

Thanks a bunch!  It sure did!

:o)
Becky

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:57:42 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Regarding e-mails to Sci-fi Guys

For those of you who e-mailed Sci-fi Guys thank you, but we've just found
out it can't really help our cause. See message below, for those who were
planning to or haven't heard...

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Hi,

I am the webmaster for the Sci Fi Guys (http://www.scifiguys.com/). I wanted
to write to all of you to clear up a bit of a misunderstanding (please post
this on your mailing list). Though we do have the phrase "scifi" in our
name, we are not in fact the Sci Fi Channel (nor in any way affiliated with
them).

We are an independent newsletter, that strives to bring sci fi news and
rumors to our readers in a humourous way (sometimes we succeed, sometimes we
can see the digital tomatoes heading our way :-) ).

We appreciate your efforts and applaud our dedication to science
fiction/fantasy. Please feel free to sign-up for our newsletter (you can at
our site: http://www.scifiguys.com/) so that you too can keep on top of what
is happening in science fiction and fantasy.

Thanks for the letters and good luck bringing back Forever Knight!
Allen
Webmaster for the Sci Fi Guys

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:36:21 -0400
From:    Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Breaking the "Equal Opportunity Gawking" Glass Ceiling on FORKNI-L :-)

Y'all please put this under the realm of "tongue in cheek" now, okay... :-)

Steve Hood <nexus_dragon@y.......> writes:
>Anyway, the site is www.andromedatv.com so all you
>Lisa Ryder fans (and Kevin Sorbo fans) can check it
>out for yourself (me, I'd take a look at it for Lexa
>Doig myself) <g>

Hey, is this the first time that I've seen a male member of FORKNI-L
speaking appreciatively about a woman instead of the other way around??
Wow, equal opportunity gawking on the list...I love it!  :-)

Oh wait - no, this wasn't the first time.  I did the same thing a few years
ago and got yelled at (figures! :-) ).  I was seeing an especially large
number of appreciative remarks about Ger and Nigel and Ben (hey, even Greg
too :-) ) at the time and made up some excuse to make similarly appreciative
remarks about Deborah and Lisa.  (I subsequently met both of them at various
fan-related events and am now regretting the whole gawking incident in the
first place :-) )

Mind you, as I am happily engaged and plan to be married at the end of July,
I will of course do nothing further than _talk_ about gawking.  :-)

Seriously though, I suppose that I was only pointing this out because
there's still a massive gender imbalance in FK fandom.  I don't actually
know why this is.  Not that I'm necessarily advocating affirmative action to
drag men to FORKNI-L, kicking and screaming either (nor for that matter, am
I suggesting that there be more gawking or talk of gawking; I personally
find it okay in small amounts, but others' kilometrage, err, mileage will vary).

Cheers,
W.

---
Will Steeves, goid@i....... - "Neil Hull is GOiD", "GOiDS Rule", etc.
Proud Member of FREE (http://www.vix.com/free); Nu '97, Psi Upsilon
Temporary Kentuckian - Amazing, I can finally see the BLUE grass!
My Temporary Home Page: http://home.ican.net/~goid
Get Paid to Surf: http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=JBC211

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:17:00 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

Rebecca Hinson wrote:
> And if Nick still didn't listen?  I think Laroix would be the one to
eliminate
> him because LaCroix would want that control up until the moment of his
death.
>
So we still can't escape "Last Knight"?  Not fair, not fair at all :-)

Barb

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:24:11 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

Raven Breena wrote:
>...or...he would become frightened of  death itself and try to hide from
it.
>
Nick as Howard Hughes? :-)

> Oh, and if I were Nick and I suddenly became mortal, I would go on every
> quiz show I could find.

But would he be quick enough as a mortal to win the fastest finger round on
"Millionaire"?

This also raised another interested image.

Regis Philbin:  Is that your final answer, Lucien?

LaCroix, barely keeping from launching himself out of his seat:  Yes.  And
it will be yours as well, if you ask it again.

Barb

Barb

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Date:    Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:34:22 -0400
From:    "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

From: "Rebecca Hinson" >
> If Nick found a cure, what would happen if he tried to eat?    Well, Nick
hasn't really
> eaten much of anything solid in 800 years, so where would that leave him?

Consider how much food has changed since the 13th century.  If Nick found a
cure, and his body reverted to the exact same state as it was in 1228, could
he tolerate the chemicals and preservatives that are a normal part of the
21st century diet? Most of our bodies learn to tolerate these a little at a
time as we grow up and are not bombarded with them in adulthood when our
immune systems are slower to adapt.

Speaking of the immune system, if Nick found a cure, Natalie would have to
be standing by with all variety of vaccinations.  But then, I think she was
more than a little amused at Nick's reaction to needles anyway. <g>

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:12:00 EDT
From:    Sss44@a.......
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

In a message dated 6/2/00 12:24:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
thanato@b....... writes:

> Well, Nick hasn't really
>  eaten much of anything solid in 800 years, so where would that leave him?
>

Hey, he ate a french fry in one ep!

scottie
sss44@a.......

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:16:47 EDT
From:    Sss44@a.......
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

In a message dated 6/2/00 2:32:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
raven@n....... writes:

> Just my .02 that the enforcers would *not* go after Nick if he became
mortal.

But Lacroix would. After 800 years of keeping Nick under his thumb, I can't
imagine him leaving Nick mortal. I think he'd track him down & make him a
vampire again.

scottie
sss44@a.......

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:32:17 +0900
From:    Raven Breena <raven@n.......>
Subject: Re: What if Nick Found a Cure?

<snip>...be seen as a more direct threat to their personal existance...
> He would know everything about them. Their habits, where they slept, their
>vulnerablities etc. Not that I beleive he ever would harm them, but other
>vampires don't know that.

Yes, but most of these people that he knows particulars about were his
friends.  I mean, would you tell a total stranger where you sleep at night?
So, anyone he knows would still be his friend, despite his changed...self.
And if they were no longer his friends...*isn't that a definition of "not a
good friend" when they don't accept you for who you are, no matter what?*

As for knowing the vulnerabilities, well, most of them are folklore anyhow.

It seems to me that Nick has always been on a personal quest to find
happiness, and he doesn't try to look within himself, which is the only
place you can really find true happiness.

>> ...enforcers would *not* go after Nick if he became mortal.
>But Lacroix would.

Okay, I believe that one.  :o)  Didn't dispute that.

Hugs and Guns,
Cousin Raven (raven@n.......)

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 03:11:07 EDT
From:    Phoenix348@a.......
Subject: FK Commercial Wave File

Hello all,

I was recently going through my third season FK tapes...tapes that were made
when FK was still running original episodes...and I came across a commercial for
the episode "Fallen Idol."  The commercial runs for a bit less than a minute
and, although I wish I could make an .avi file of it, I lack the necessary
equipment to do so.  On the other hand, I do have a .wav file of the
commercial and would be willing to share it with anyone who is interested.

To my knowledge, I can remember seeing only two FK commercials when the show
was still running original eps...one for "My Boyfriend is a Vampire," and the
other for "Fallen Idol," of course.  To my knowledge, I do not have the MBIAV
commercial, but I do have the "Fallen Idol" .wav and thought that others on
this list might be interested in a somewhat rare item from FK's original run.

If anyone is interested in the .wav file, please e-mail me and I'll pass it
along to you.

Stephen Lansing
Phoenix348@a.......

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 00:55:33 -0700
From:    Berg <berg@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK Commercial Wave File

        I'm kindof interested in the .wav file, but I'm more interested in
the tape itself.  I have the equipment to make an AVI file off of a tape,
so if you don't mind parting with the tape for a week, I'd be happy to do
it (you pay postage to me, I pay for it back to you).

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:05:04 EDT
From:    Susankenn@a.......
Subject: NY Party Announcement

Hi all

With permission from McLisa I would like to announce a NY FK pool party and
Barbecue

Date: July 22, 2000
Time: TBA (sometime in afternoon)
Place: Long Island, NY (Nassau County)

I had one of these about 3 years ago for those that remember. We all had a
blast.

Please E mail me off list (with Party in subject line)  at susankenn@a.......
if you want to come. I will then put together an "E" mail loop to coordinate
the event (it was pot luck last time and that worked really well).

So, mark the date, let me know and we are off to have a great time. We will
show all sorts or videos (and I have some real neat ones), pictures, FK games
and such.

I look forward to hearing from you all

susan
susankenn@a.......

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Date:    Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:40:54 EDT
From:    SFryar@a.......
Subject: Need an e-mail addy.

<de-lurking for a moment.>

Hi, y'all...

I'm looking for Lorelei Sieja's e-mail addy.  My AOL Personal Filing Cabinet
did a major hiccup yesterday and I lost quite a few e-mails, including a
couple of her "Dance" posts. I wanted to ask her a question about the
stories, and I can't find her addy so I can send her a reply.  :(

If anyone could let me know what her e-mail addy is (off-list please), I'd be
grateful.

Many thanks, everyone!   :)   <back to lurking>

Stephi
STILL "Mom" of the DFKS <g>
www.egroups.com/Writer'sCube

"We are defined, not by the depth of our passions, but by the strength of our
love."
     Dr. Derek Rayne---"Poltergeist: the Legacy"

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