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Digest - 17 May 2000 to 18 May 2000 (#2000-145)

Thu, 18 May 2000

There are 15 messages totalling 495 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Kill that Vampire! (was Re: The Inca)
  2. Another Knight?
  3. An FK moment (3)
  4. BB Bombs (2)
  5. Nigel and LC's name
  6. Knight without the Crawler (2)
  7. BB Bombs (was: Sexism and Vampire Suicide)
  8. Request for Info
  9. Looking for Eps...
 10. The Triple TPTB Blitz Day 4!
 11. FK ALUMNI - VCR Alert


Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 17:08:15 -0400
From:    Bonnie Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject: Kill that Vampire! (was Re: The Inca)

McLisa wrote:
<snip> H'mm, it probably depends on whether the bomb (a) blew his head off his
> shoulders and/or (b) set fire to him as it blew him up.<snip>

And between Divia's decapitation and LaCroix's scorch incident, we
know that even these aren't 100% effective. The only would-be-dead vampires who
didn't have a representative popping up again were those incinerated by the sun
(Assuming Erica's ghost doesn't count).


Bonnie Rutledge......<br1035@i.......>......Evil - The Puppies Say So!
 "'Single and Fabulous?' It was supposed to be 'Single and Fabulous,'
exclamation point!!! That question mark is hostile!" - 'Sex and the City'

              "You sold me queer giraffes." - 'Gladiator'


Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 17:20:30 EDT
From:    Dolpfin220@a.......
Subject: Another Knight?

Back in 1994, there was another show about a knight called The Wanderer which
starred Bryan Brown.  In this case, Bryan Brown played Adam who was the
reincarnation of a medieval knight and his evil twin brother Zachary, both in
seek of a sword with special properties.  There was action, timetravel and
sorcery as part of the storyline.  I've been trying for a couple of years to
think of what this series was and just tracked it down.  It was an excellent
show, but only lasted for 13 episodes.  Why is this relevant?  Somewhere in
the back of my mind it occurred to me that this might make for an interesting
crossover with our vampire knight.  If anyone knows where I could come up
with copies to refresh my memory or remembers more details than I do, please
contact me offlist.  Thanks.

Janet - <A HREF="Dolpfin220@a.......">Dolpfin220@a.......</A>
(LCA2, Hamlet, and now LCA3!)

Pessimist: One who, when he has the choice of two evils, chooses both. -Oscar


Date:    Thu, 18 May 2000 10:26:45 +1200
From:    Knightraven <knightraven@c.......>
Subject: Re: An FK moment

> Nancy Kaminski wrote:
> > Not me. I bet LC would be rather distainful at such a work. They'd get all
> > the details wrong, it would be overly dramatic, and they'd miss the point
> > completely. <g>

Exactly. I think LC would find it all rather amusing. This was a Ballet so
it's not quite the same as a play.<g> You never know it may even be quite
good...for an ignorant mortal production, of course.<eg>
Maybe it's the sort of thing he would take Nick to, just to watch his



Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 16:09:33 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: BB Bombs

Cousin Mary stated:> Infact, Nick leaves all the bombs with Screed when he
flies> off to save the day... better hope Screedykins knows to cut the blue>

Oh, well...we all know that Nick never had much of a liking for Screed...

"The bombs?  What about the bombs?  Oh.  Oopsie..."

Sorry, Libs!



Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 20:02:16 -0400
From:    mclisa@m.......
Subject: Nigel and LC's name

Quoth Susan Garrett:
>Nigel has said LaCroix, Lacroix, and Fred.

<McLisa, who was there at the Fred incident, before anyone knew if LC had a
first name, smacks her head :)> I'm told he once said "Sam," too. :)

I'm beginning to think the Old Boy (LaCroix, _not_ Nigel, who is a month
younger than I am <g>) did it on purpose to enjoy the fan consternation. :)

Yes, I should go quietly upstairs and go to sleep now, why do you ask? <g>

Cousin McLisa  (Lisa McDavid)  "That will be Trouble."
Listowner Forkni-l, Fkfic-l, Fkv4s-l


Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 21:46:31 -0400
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: BB Bombs

>Cousin Mary stated:> Infact, Nick leaves all the bombs with Screed when he
>flies> off to save the day... better hope Screedykins knows to cut the blue>

Which sets me to wondering...if a person is color-blind  before being
brought over, is that "cured" or does the person remain color-blind? In
which case Screed had better be real sure that the blue wire really _is_
the blue one...Unless, of course, Nick is color-blind. (This case could be
supported by some of the horrid shirts that they made him wear.)  :)

Emily Lacey


Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 21:58:15 -0400
From:    urtikit@m.......
Subject: Re: Knight without the Crawler

Les writes:
><snip> However, there's always this back of the brain nagging question
>of what's keeping the Enforcers off Nick's back while he engages so
>intimately with the mortal world.  In Night in Question, we see quite
>clearly the vulnerability of a vampire trying to "pass" as a mortal.

True, although we also know that Nick isn't the only vampire with a
"mortal" job, in contact with humans nightly.  The tattle-taling video
editor in UTV, for example (Danny, I think...?), also appears to be
passing as mortal.  So passing and being surrounded by mortals every
night doesn't seem to be a no-no.
On the other hand, one might say a TV station employee would be
less likely to get shot in the head and thereby risk exposing his ...
alternate nature.  (Then again, I've had some small experience with
video editing, and it could be enough to evoke the beast in even me <g>.)
Or wait -- I might have conspiracy cheese:  maybe video guy *was* in
trouble with the Enforcers, and turned Nick in as part a play for leniency.

> They may not know he's
>seeking a cure (then again, they might),

I've often wondered (and read discussion here) about that.
Is the cure against the Code?  According to dialogue in The Fix,
others wouldn't be happy about what Nick's doing with the drug.  Who
are these others?  Enforcers?  The local Community?
The Canadian equivalent of the Food and Drug Agency?
If it is the Enforcers, Nick could really be walking a dangerous
path, as far as that goes.

> Some behind the scenes
>string pulling?  And who's going to have the wherewithal to do that?  Not
>the Knight, I don't think.  Looks like that Crawler guy crawls back into
>the picture. <g>

Although LC couldn't even haul his own bacon out of the fire in the UTV
flashbacks.... Do you suppose that it, perhaps, was an act for Nick's benefit?

>Well, as Janette asserts, Lacroix was never one to allow his life to become
>boring.  I suppose he feels it his duty to keep Nick's interesting as well.

The family that isn't bored together ... keeps its audience
entertained.  <g>



Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 19:26:02 -0700
From:    Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Knight without the Crawler

Kit said> I've often wondered (and read discussion here) about that.
> Is the cure against the Code?

I've always thought that should Nick regain mortality it would be a very
short stint.  Forget that "he knows too much...".  Nick would be killed just
for setting a bad example to the young'ns, and because people (and I think
vampires are a lot like mortals) hate the loner.



Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 22:46:59 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: An FK moment

Nancy Kaminski wrote:

> Not me. I bet LC would be rather distainful at such a work. They'd get all
> the details wrong, it would be overly dramatic, and they'd miss the point
> completely. <g>
If it's the Houston Ballet's production of "Dracula"  they absolutely got it
wrong.  I saw it with 2 other FK fans when it was in Washington DC and all
we could think was "Parriott and company did a much better job" :-)

However, I think LaCroix would have gone just to annoy Nick both about
going - I don't think Nick has been to the ballet since that unfortunate
incident with Sylvaine - and about how badly mortals understand vampires.



Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 23:13:09 -0400
From:    "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: BB Bombs (was: Sexism and Vampire Suicide)

From: "Cousin Mary" <anteros@j.......>
.... instead, he seemed more interested in fakin' the  whammyin' o' Nick and
carrying on the seduction  of the lovely and ever talented Tracy

Vachon, with a sheepish grin and shrug, "Hey, a guy has to have priorities."


Date:    Thu, 18 May 2000 00:13:54 EDT
From:    BJDFKFan@a.......
Subject: Request for Info

Could Kylie and/or anyone else here who has had experience in having t-shirts
professionally printed (for a reasonable price) please contact me off list?
We are trying to get info on it for a possible Kickstart the Knight project.
Thanks much!

Becky -- DFKS, DK, IB, DT, UF, Ravenette, Cousin, FOD
http://members.aol.com/BJDFKFan, http://members.aol.com/DKfanfic
We're cut adrift, but still floating.  I'm only hanging on to watch you go
down...my love.  (Bono, U2)
The world was bankrupted of ten million fine actions the night she passed on.
 (paraphrased from Ray Bradbury's F. 451, in memory of Libby M.)


Date:    Wed, 17 May 2000 23:28:29 -0500
From:    Rebecca Hinson <thanato@b.......>
Subject: Looking for Eps...

Hello everyone!

I am looking for Forever Knight eps....  heh!  What else *would* I be
looking for on this list? :o)

Anyway, I am willing to pay for the cost of the tape and for postage.
Most of what I have (and I'll have to dig through my recently packed
boxes to find the complete list of what I have) is from the first

If anyone can help, please contact me offlist.




Date:    Thu, 18 May 2000 01:39:55 EDT
From:    MadiHolmes@a.......
Subject: Re: An FK moment

In a message dated 05/17/00 7:18:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
nancykam@m....... writes:

<< But then, I also think Nick would avoid Phantom of the Opera. I want to
 think he hates Andrew Lloyd Webber as much as I do. <g> C'mon, you just know
 he's a Sondheim kind of guy! Complex music, sophisticated lyrics, and
 interesting characters. I bet he's seen "A Little Night Music"  >>

You know, I once had a dream of Nick as the Phantom (complete with mask);
only A- he wasn't disfigured and B- he kept going out in the daylight.

Don't ask



Date:    Thu, 18 May 2000 07:46:15 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: The Triple TPTB Blitz Day 4!

Hi everyone!

        It is DAY 4 of the Triple TPTB Feedback Blitz! It is time to once
show just how much you want more of the Knight! Except rember this time we
are not stopping with just Sci-fi. This time out, we are blitzing Sci-Fi,
USA NETWORKS and Columbia Tristar! Its a triple dose of e-mails from each of
you the fans that would love to not only have FK back on Sci-fi's schedule,
but want to make sure everyone knows that we are want more FK with the
original cast in new eps and or movies!!

        So, what do you say? Are you ready to sit down, take that few
minutes and
send off three e-mails? It could make all the difference in the world!

So, say a little or say a lot, but say it!! We can make more FK happen!!!

        Every day, *May 15th, through May 22nd*, we are asking everyone to
all three feedbacks!!! You can re-use the e-mails you did before, or write
new ones. They can be long, or as short as just saying, "Bring Back Forever

        Here's the addresses PLUS the 4th one which is where you can also
write for
FK on video!

Sci-Fi's E-mail: feedback@w....... feedback@w.......

Sony/Tristar Mail Form: http://www.spe.sony.com/spe/help_feedback_index.html

USA's E-mail: shows@u.......

For FK on Video:
http://www.contender.ltd.uk/KULT-TV/kltfbk.htm (they read them and respond

Happy Blitzing!


Date:    Fri, 19 May 2000 00:07:32 +0800
From:    Cheryl Hoffman <hoffman@p.......>
Subject: FK ALUMNI - VCR Alert

Well, half a month is better than none.  Only a few things slipped by, but
here's what I've found for the rest of May.  A bit for most everyone.

Some of the dates have been corrected from the last alert.
Be sure to check ahead of time for the correct date & time in your area.

I may be working something out with a fellow list member to get the guide
in a more timely manner.  We'll see what works out.

I Know My Son is Alive
(aka Web of Deceit)             Lifetime        26
Narrow Margin                   Encore          17
One Tough Cop                   TMC             21,26
Passion & Paradise-2parts   En-Love         20
Sanctuary                       HBO-P           20
Shattered Trust-
        Shari Karney Story      Lifetime        23
Synapse                         Showtime        19
Ultimate Betrayal               WGN             28
Kung Fu:TLC                     TNT             26
        "May I Talk With You"
Lexx  (in Canada)               Space           Mondays

Conspiracy of Fear              Action-Max      17,20,25,31

Breakfast Club                  TNT             27,28
Class                           TMC             19,24
Deep End of the Ocean           HBO             18
                                HBO-F           18,21,24
                                HBO-P           31
Tootsie                         HBO             21,25,29

Blind Faith                     Showtime        20
Hiroshima-Out of the Ashes      En-True         21,29,30

Earthquake in New York          Family          21
A New Life                      HBO             26

Kung Fu:TLC "Ancient Love"      TNT             19
(the first 10 min of this is a "must see")

Blown Away                      Cinemax         24

A Cool, Dry Place               Cinemax         19
Bride of Chucky                 Starz           17,20,30

Kung Fu:TLC
        "Time Prisoners"        TNT             23
        "Requiem"               TNT             24
        "Shaolin Christmas"     TNT             25

Blackheart                      HBO-P           27
                                Showtime-Ex     24,30

Airborne                        HBO             20
City of Angels                  Mo-Max          17,30
Striking Poses                  MoMax           31
Kung Fu:TLC "Blackout"          TNT             22

Spenser:Judas Goat              Mystery         17,21,29,30
Kung Fu:TLC                     TNT             30
"Sunday in the Hotel with George"

Dogboys                         TMC             22,29
Johnny Mnemonic                 Flix            20,29
Earth:Final Conflict
Kung Fu:TLC

Brothers Promise -              True            21,27
        Dan Jansen Story

Cube                            SciFi           18
        w/Nicki deBoer
The Sweetest Gift               Showtime2       17,21,26
                                Showtime3       18,24,27

Cube                            SciFi           18
JFK:Reckless Youth              TRUE            17,18,23,29
        w/Cedric Smith

Double Take                     HBO             18,29

Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, NBN, GWDFC,  G4
"My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
hoffman@p.......                            dayabaygal@y.......
Dapeng, Shenzhen, CHINA         AIM:  DayaBayGal        ICQ:  30464256


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