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Digest - 24 Mar 2000 to 25 Mar 2000 (#2000-90)

Sat, 25 Mar 2000

There are 5 messages totalling 144 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Lacroix's age (3)
  2. A Stirring of Dust
  3. HOW do vampires fly?

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Date:    Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:00:26 -0000
From:    Barbara Vainio <bevainio@w.......>
Subject: Re: Lacroix's age

Monica Thadine Rodriguez wrote:

  What do any of you think about > how FK vamps measure their ages?  Do they
consider themselves the sum of their mortal and immortal years?  Or do they
start counting all over again  once they become vamps?

I don't think they measure their ages at all in years.  Perhaps in
genreations or eras, if at all.  But I really think age has no meaning to
creatures who actually don't get older.  There's no benefit for vampires to
keep track of how old they are.  They don't run out of time to do things or
wish for more time to see how the world changes.  I don't see other vamps
necessarily respecting someone in the community beause of his or her age,
but rather for their power or number of fledglings or how many "lives"
they've had to start.

When you have no need to "keep score" why use numbers? :-)

Barb

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Date:    Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:00:48 KST
From:    Sue O'Reilly <soreilly@h.......>
Subject: A Stirring of Dust

I still have two copies of Susan's book if anyone is interested.  I'm only
charging purchase price and postage, no markup; I picked them up with fellow
listmembers in mind since it's currently out of print.

Cheers,
Sue

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Date:    Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:20:33 CST
From:    Thomas Lambert <eternaltl@h.......>
Subject: Re: HOW do vampires fly?

Cute. Thanks. That answers all of my questions.

=)
>Top Ten Ways the FK Vamps Fly
>
>10) Magnets
>9) Fairy Dust
>8) Strings, baby!

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Date:    Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:49:15 -0500
From:    Cindy Ingram <cgi271@a.......>
Subject: Re: Lacroix's age

Monica wrote:

>Libs' comment brought a question to mind.  What do any of you think about
>how FK vamps measure their ages?  Do they consider themselves the sum of
>their mortal and immortal years?  Or do they start counting all over again
>once they become vamps?  Or does it perhaps depend on the vamp how they
>measure their age?  Is there any canon evidence for the way to measure
>their ages?

Hmmm ... I can't call anything to mind, in terms of series canon, that
gives a definitive answer one way or the other. In NiQ, Nat mentions 767
years, but that's in response to Nick's question about how long he's been a
vampire, not how old he is.

I tend to think it doesn't matter that much to them whether the mortal
years are counted or not, especially as they get older. To someone who
expects to live forever, the strict counting of each year that passes
probably becomes pretty trivial. I bet they're really big on rounding off
to the nearest 100 ... or in LC's case, to the higher 100. <g>

But if it were *me* doing the counting, I'd include their mortal years.

Cindy Ingram
<cgi271@a.......>

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people
very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams.

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Date:    Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:21:07 -0500
From:    br1035@i.......
Subject: Re: Lacroix's age

Cindy wrote, re: measuring vamp ages:
<snip>Hmmm ... I can't call anything to mind, in terms of series canon, that
>gives a definitive answer one way or the other. In NiQ, Nat mentions 767
>years, but that's in response to Nick's question about how long he's been a
>vampire, not how old he is.<snip>

And earlier in NiQ, there's the exchange between Nick and Nat over the photo
taken at his last birthday, so apparently Nick is celebrating them. Of course,
Nick makes that crack in first season (was it False Witness?) about 'for a
second I was afraid I was having another birthday.' Was that pure humor, or
based in actual feeling? It could be he started actually celebrating birthdays
again after meeting Nat in an effort to be more 'human.'

I don't think LaCroix, under any circumstances, would encourage birthday
celebrations.
In one of his monologues, he says something about 'the best thing about being
born is that we are no longer dead,' as though the purpose of a birthdate is
merely
to tick off the years between deaths. I doubt LC would count the years, period,
because
of his whole 'I am eternal' kick. He doesn't intend to die, and there would be
no resolution to counting to infinity, now would there?

Not to be confused with anything remotely canon, the idea behind 'Conversion
Day'
(We celebrate LaCroix's on August 23rd & 24th, coincident with the eruption at
Pompeii) was that, for vampires, birthdays were no longer significant. The date
they joined the undead became a more relevant 'leave your mortal bonds behind'
anniversary. Of course, this idea was also an excuse for fan silliness, which I
still think is A Good Thing.

<waves>

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Bonnie Rutledge......<br1035@i.......>......Evil - The Puppy Says So!
Nunkies Anonymous Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~br1035/nunkies.html
Spare Bambi!   I Play With Voodoo Dolls.    LaCroix for President - 2000!
        "I have a <hand motion> psychological problem with that."

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