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Digest - 19 Feb 2000 to 20 Feb 2000 (#2000-51)

Sun, 20 Feb 2000

There are 9 messages totalling 466 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. KtK auction.......
  2. Geo-raffle #25
  3. Remember the writers (2)
  4. Heating Oil Crunch (2)
  5. The 1999 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards
  6. "The Crossing"
  7. Price Gouging (was: Heating Oil Crunch)


Date:    Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:07:20 EST
From:    SField8067@a.......
Subject: Re: KtK auction.......

sorry, that was meant to go offlist :)


Date:    Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:35:43 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Geo-raffle #25

Forever Knight
Geographically-Challenged Raffle

Congratulations to the Winner of Raffle #24
Iracema Marianne Müller of Santos, Brazil


Begins: February 20th, 2000
Ends: March 17th, 2000
Item: Empty Heineken bottle signed by Nigel Bennett

In honor of St. Patrick's Day, this month's prize is a green Heineken
bottle signed by Nigel Bennett. This was signed in Toronto at LCA, October

You are eligible to enter to win this item if you did
attend the following cons or events:

* Lights, Camera, Auction (October 1999)

Please note that ALL raffle items are accompanied by a certificate of
authenticity which tells you where the item came from, who signed it, who
witnessed the signature, and when and where the item was signed. All
signatures are original and genuine.

There is no purchase of a raffle ticket or any monetary donation required.
We do, however, ask that you write ONE letter to one of the many addresses
we have listed below, to support a Forever Knight television movie, release
of more Forever Knight soundtrack cassette tapes and CDs, and licensing and
production of more Forever Knight video tapes, novels and other tie-in books.

The letter you wrote last week, last month, or even yesterday does NOT
count. PLEASE honor the spirit in which these raffles are held - write your
qualifying letter and drop an email note to Rae Plachecki
(Javiette@a.......), telling her who you wrote to and when, and what
affiliation you are, if any. The future of these raffles is in your hands.

Use the raffle website entry form to enter

or  send an e-mail to fkshirt@a....... and include

1.Your real name
2.Your snail address
3.Your e-mail address

In addition to writing a letter, if you haven't done so already,
please  take the time to visit
to e-sign a petition to have FK released on professional tapes and or DVD!

At 11:59 PM, on Friday, March 17th, all e-mail entries will be dumped into
a bag, shuffled, and one name will be drawn. The winner will be notified on
Saturday, March 18th and will be asked if their name and city/state may be
posted. The prize will be mailed priority rate within 2 -3 days.

After the winners have been drawn, the contest entries are destroyed. None
of these names or addresses will be kept or compiled for any sort of
listing. Names and snail-mail addresses are asked as a security measure
(and to assist me in quickly mailing out the raffle prize). THEY ARE NOT

This raffle will be advertised on the ForKni-L list, the Forever Knight
newsgroup, the AOL Forever Knight Board, and the SciFi Channel Dominion
Forever Knight bulletin board.
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
EVER Faithful Ravenette. http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2167/fiction.htm
"Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies."


Date:    Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:40:48 EST
From:    Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Remember the writers

Dear fellow FK lovers,

Of late I've noticed a significant slowing of traffic on this list, probably
due in part to the fact that FK is not currently showing in the US
(grumble,grumble).  I've also noticed a drop in new fiction on the FKFIC-L.
Efforts are being made to return the extant episodes of FK to broadcast in
the US, and even to put the show back into production. We have to make sure
there's a reason for these things to happen, we have to contribute to the
health of the fandom.

I want to remind everyone how precious those authors are whom we still have.
I have written a little in the FK fandom, but have been blocked and
uninspired for quite some time.  Therefore I have tremendous respect for
those folks who are able to concieve of a story idea, put in the nitty-gritty
work of fleshing it out, and stick with it to posting.  Please remember to
acknowledge these folks when you read a story that you enjoy.  Take a moment
to reply, tell them that you liked it, and *what* you liked about it.  These
authors get no payment but the satisfaction of creating, and our
appreciation.  Lets make sure they get paid.

Laurie of the Isles


Date:    Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:47:16 EST
From:    MadiHolmes@a.......
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch

In a message dated 02/19/00 11:38:41 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
clarkcindy@e....... writes:

 Someone on the news reported yesterday that they had put $15.00 in their
 tank and it wasn't even full.

Heh... I put 15.00 dollars in my car, and it's not even THREE FOURTHS FULL!!!!

Oh well, I guess the nice thing about Nick is what he spends in gas, he saves
in food bills (although I don't know hwat hte going rate of a bottle of cow
blood is going these days <G>)

Cousine Formidable/GSS


Date:    Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:09:23 -0500
From:    FK Awards <fkawards@f.......>
Subject: The 1999 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards

Feel free to pass this along to any and all concerned:

Mel Moser


        Announcing the 1999 FK Fan Fiction Awards
                    now being hosted at:
            ( http://www.fkfanfic.com/awards/  )

This information and more can be found in the FK Fan Fiction
Awards FAQ at http://www.fkfanfic.com/awards/awardsfaq.htm



The 1999 FK Fan Fiction Awards have been moved to www.fkfanfic.com
and are now being handled by Mel Moser, with the gracious permission
of Susan Garrett.  Most of the rules and procedures from previous FK
Fan Fiction Awards are the same for the 1999 FK Fan Fiction Awards,
and much of the information, including emails, rules & procedures, etc.
are from Susan's original webpages and emails.

Many thanks to Susan Garrett for managing the Awards over the
past couple of years.

And now...

The FK Fan Fiction Awards Mini-FAQ


The Process:

Everyone wishing to nominate/vote will be need to apply for and will
be assigned a Voter Id.   The Voter Id Application Form can be
found at http://www.fkfanfic.com/awards/voteidmail.htm

Nominations will be accepted for a voting ballot. You will be able to
nominate as many items as you would like, 1 nomination per item, please.

(This means that you can nominate twenty different stories NOT the same
story twenty times.)

After the nominating deadline, all nominations will be collected and
categories and divisions assigned. The authors of the top six entries in
each division will be contacted and asked if they wish to participate in
the awards. Authors wishing to remain on the ballot MUST reply before the
preliminary ballot deadline--if an author does not apply, they will be
removed from the ballot. Any author who wishes a work to be removed from
the ballot should send an e-mail requesting its removal. Only authors
wishing to remain on the ballot will have their works appear on the final
voting ballot.

NOTE--Any work that appears on the final ballot MUST be available for the
voting public to read and review. This means that the author will be
requested to allow either a link to the nominated work or a copy of the
nominated work to be available from the voting website. This will allow
voters to read all of the works nominated on the final ballot and make an
informed decision. After the results have been awarded, individual items
and links will be removed as per the author's request. NO WORK WILL BE

The final voting ballot will be available on the voting web page and will
also be posted to ForKni-L (with the listowner's permission). Wide
dissemination of the ballot AND the rules will be encouraged. Votes will be
placed for one nominee in each category during a designated period. Awards
will be given to the nominee with the most votes in their category and
division--ties will be possible and will be honored as such.


Categories for Awards:

This year's Awards will be similar to previous Awards, with categories
based on Story Word Count, Story Content (NonAdult, Adult 1, Adult 2),
and 4 Special Categories, all within the timeframes of 1999 and Historic.

Awards will be given for the following categories for 1999 and Historic
divisions, under three story types (NonAdult, Adult 1 (Some Adult) and
Adult 2 (All Adult):

* Vignette
* Short Story
* Novelette
* Novella
* Novel
* Filk
* Poem

For more information regarding categories, including word counts for
Vignette, Short Story, etc., check out the Categories section on the
Awards FAQ: http://www.fkfanfic.com/awards/awardsfaq.htm

This year, 1999, adds four special categories for additional FK Fan
Fiction-related awards.  Awards for both stories posted in 1999 and
Historic time-frames allowing for eight additional Awards this year.

Nominated stories will be categorized into their appropriate
categories following the close of the nomination period.

These special categories are:  Favorite Quote from an Original Story,
Favorite Original Character, Favorite Crossover Story, and Favorite
Challenge Story.


What can be nominated?

Any complete Forever Knight story, poem, or filk that is complete and
has been available to the general public in an electronic form prior to
January 1, 2000.

* Definition of AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC--it was posted to the
FKFIC-L list or any other electronic list or is/was archived on an FTP site
or a website. It does not have to be currently available to be NOMINATED.

* Definition of ELECTRONIC FORM--readable on line from a computer
terminal, downloadable to a computer, or transferrable by diskette

* Definition of COMPLETE--the nominated item must have been posted in
its entirety by December 31, 1999.

Additionally, four special categories allow for eight additional awards
for these items also available prior to January 1, 2000 in both the 1999
and Historic Categories:  Favorite Quote from an Original Story ,
Favorite Original Character, Favorite Crossover Story, and Favorite
Challenge Story.


Who can nominate and/or vote?

Anyone who has read Forever Knight Fan Fiction and applies and
receives a Voter Id through the online Voter Id application process (or
through email from fkawards@f....... for those without web access)


When can I nominate/vote?

You can apply for your Voter Id starting Sunday, February 20, 2000.
Upon receipt of your Voter Id, you can then begin to nominate stories.

Additional dates in the process will be listed on the Awards FAQ and
on the main Awards webpage.

Dates for the Awards are subject to change depending on Real Life of
Mel Moser.   Dates of each phase of the Awards process will be posted
on the main Awards webpage ( http://www.fkfanfic.com/awards/ ) and
posted to various FK Mailing Lists.


How can I nominate/vote if I don't have web access?

Contact fkawards@f....... for participating in the Awards process
via email.


Comments and questions

These fan fiction awards are in no way 'official'.  If another list or group
would like to initiate their own FK fan fiction awards, I will heartily
endorse and support their efforts.

If you have any questions about these 1999 FK Fan Fiction awards,
please review the full FAQ at http://www.fkfanfic.com/awards/awardsfaq.htm
or email me at fkawards@f.......

1999 Forever Knight Fan Fiction Awards


Date:    Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:03:50 -0500
From:    Kat Parsons <Calamity@v.......>
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch

>MadiHolmes@a....... wrote:
>> Geez... Myabe I shouldn't tell all of you that in Kansas last March/April,
>> prices got down to 79 CENTS for 87 octane for a good month or so....I'm sure
>> that Nick would have been having major flashbacks to "he good ol' days" (ie
>> about late 50s, I guess) where that price was the norm.

When my parents bought their first car, in July 1970, they had to keep a
record of all mileage, etc., for reimbursement purposes. Since that car is
still in the family (my husband and I own it, most joyfully), and the
record book is, too, I can tell you that its first tank of gas cost 29.9
cents/gallon on July 20, 1970 (in Northern Virginia).

My mother remembers driving through Texas (probably in the 40s, possibly in
the 50s) and seeing gas for sale at 9.9 cents/gallon--if it had been any
cheaper, they would have had to pay drivers to haul it away.

No wonder Nick wasn't worried about fuel efficiency when he bought the Caddy!

Kat Parsons


Date:    Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:45:25 -0500
From:    Cindy Clark <clarkcindy@e.......>
Subject: "The Crossing"

For those who haven't seen it or would like to see it again, The History
Channel (US) is showing "The Crossing" with Nigel Bennett at 9:00 p.m.
(EST), tomorrow night.  They are showing it as a special "Movies in
Time" presentation, which means that they will have breaks in the film
for historical commentary and discussion.


Date:    Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:50:03 -0500
From:    Diane Harris <dharris@h.......>
Subject: Re: Remember the writers

>Take a moment
> to reply, tell them that you liked it, and *what* you liked about it. These
> authors get no payment but the satisfaction of creating, and our
> appreciation.  Lets make sure they get paid.

I agree whole-heartedly!  I try to write feedback when I can, but I often
get sidetracked or I don't have time to read everything, let alone write
replies :)  I realize this is a common problem, but if you find that you
have a spare moment, write some feedback!  Writing a story is tough (I know
first-hand) and I think that we should stand and recognize all the wonderful
writers we have.  I encourage everyone to participate in the 1999 Fanfiction
awards, especially since the turnout last year was so low they actually
considered not having them this year, and give your support to everyone
who's spent the time and effort writing for the FK fandom (I've already
started nominating like crazy :).

Diane (dharris@h.......)
Hopeless NNPacker with strong Knightie / Dark Knightie tendencies and a hint
of FoDs for good measure...


Date:    Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:54:47 -0800
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Price Gouging (was: Heating Oil Crunch)

MadiHolmes@a....... wrote:
> Heh... I put 15.00 dollars in my car, and it's not even 3/4 FULL!!!

sheesh! It takes $40 plus to fill my truck every week! (So. Calif.)

Hmm..., on topic, on topic... *scratches chin*  Ahh, hah!

What effect do you think region would have on the price of a bottle of
the finest bloodwine? None of the cheap stuff now, only the best. The
kind LaCroix himself would choose.



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