FORKNI-L
Digest - 17 Feb 2000 to 18 Feb 2000 (#2000-49)
Fri, 18 Feb 2000
There are 9 messages totalling 251 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Heating Oil Crunch (6)
2. Check in from central part of Arkansas (2)
3. gas prices
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:39:18 EST
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch
In a message dated 2/17/00 1:48:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
MadiHolmes@a....... writes:
<< Geez... Myabe I shouldn't tell all of you that in Kansas last March/April,
prices got down to 79 CENTS for 87 octane for a good month or so....I'm sure
that Nick would have been having major flashbacks to "he good ol' days" (ie
about late 50s, I guess) where that price was the norm. >>
I have a 62 Olds excatly like the Caddy but without the fins. Back in 1965
when I purchased it, the high test gas costs me $.28. a gallon. The car got
and still gets about 6 miles to the gal. on a 21 gallon tank. But with Nick
$486,000,000, I don't think he has a problem. Otherwise I'd like the phone
number of the de Brabant Foundation. I'd need a little charity.
KnightWitch ;-[[=
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:21:18 -0800
From: Mysterie <Mysterie@b.......>
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch
> I have a 62 Olds excatly like the Caddy but without the fins. Back in 1965
> when I purchased it, the high test gas costs me $.28. a gallon. The car got
> and still gets about 6 miles to the gal. on a 21 gallon tank. But with Nick
Hahaha, that reminds me of my grandpa's 83 Olds. Built like tank and takes
in gasoline like it too. My grandpa only gives it premium grade 92 gasoline
at nearly $2 a gallon (right now in SoCal). It gets only a bit more mileage
than yours and leaks a great deal too. Nice thing about it through... it's
got great trunk space. My 6 foot tall cousin can fit in there comfortably
(Don't Ask how I know). With the Southern California's bright sun (which
has been suspiciously been missing the last few days) someone like Nick
could enjoy the comfort of the Tank's (my nickname for the car) trunk.
Mysterie
-What do you get with white hair and a bottle of purple dye? .... a VERY
angry 2000 year old vampire.
Mysterie@b....... / Yohkomano@e.......
http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/canaveral/53/foreverknight/
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:48:53 -0600
From: "Cynthia L. Faut" <niteluvr@s.......>
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch
MadiHolmes@a....... wrote:
> >>
>
> Geez... Myabe I shouldn't tell all of you that in Kansas last March/April,
> prices got down to 79 CENTS for 87 octane for a good month or so....I'm sure
> that Nick would have been having major flashbacks to "he good ol' days" (ie
> about late 50s, I guess) where that price was the norm.
>
> MadiHolmes
> Cousine Formidable/GSS
I think that was more like the very late 60's to early 70's in the Mo./ Ks.
area. I remember paying about 33 cents a gal for gas for my motorcycle. Nick
would have loved that. The big cars and bikes were still very popular. Maybe
he got to ride with the Hell's Angels!
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:45:14 -0500
From: "Brenda F. Bell" <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch
At 08:48 AM 2/18/00 -0600, niteluvr wrote:
>> Geez... Myabe I shouldn't tell all of you that in Kansas last March/April,
>> prices got down to 79 CENTS for 87 octane for a good month or so....
It did that nationwide... reminded me of the late 1970's (post-1974 oil
crisis).
>> that Nick would have been having major flashbacks to "he good ol' days" (ie
>> about late 50s, I guess) where that price was the norm.
Expensive-brand premium gasoline didn't jump to more than 45 cents a gallon
on Long Island until the 1973-74 oil crisis. Regular gas jumped up to a
dollar a gallon or more during the crisis and dropped back into the sixty-
and seventy-something cent ranges afterwards. Gas jumped up again during
the 1979 oil crisis, coming back down just a bit over the dollar mark
afterwards.
> I think that was more like the very late 60's to early 70's in the Mo./ Ks.
>area. I remember paying about 33 cents a gal for gas for my motorcycle. Nick
>would have loved that. The big cars and bikes were still very popular.
Yup - up until the oil crisis. During the embargo, we had odd-even
rationing and you couldn't queue up unless your tank was under 1/2 full,
and then you could only buy $5.00 worth of gas at the time... government
started issuing regs requiring higher-mileage cars AND lower pollution,
resulting in a lot of mid-seventies models with poor performance. These
requirements opened up the market to small foreign family cars (Toyota,
Honda, Mazda, etc.) and caused no end of grief to the domestic car industry.
Brenda F. Bell webwarren@e....... /nick TMana IM: n2kye
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:04:24 -0600
From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch
From: Brenda F. Bell <webwarren@e.......>
> Expensive-brand premium gasoline didn't jump to more than 45 cents a gallon
> on Long Island until the 1973-74 oil crisis. Regular gas jumped up to a
> dollar a gallon or more during the crisis and dropped back into the sixty-
Yup, when I learned to drive (1972) gas was 22 or 23 cents a gallon regular
(and in gas wars, could drop to 19 cents or so! And my first (used) little
car, a Ford Cortina, had an 8-gallon tank, so I used to fill up for less
than $2.
> resulting in a lot of mid-seventies models with poor performance. These
> requirements opened up the market to small foreign family cars (Toyota,
> Honda, Mazda, etc.) and caused no end of grief to the domestic car
industry.
So can you imagine the angst Nick felt driving around his enormous,
gas-guzzling land cruiser? Do you think he switched to something more
acceptable during the early 70s?
Heh heh -- I've got it! Nick drove an AMC Pacer -- the car that looked like
it had a goldfish bowl stuck on its rear end! That big, bulging glass dome
was a hatchback, so he could duck under the carpeted lid and find just
enough room for himself, if he curled up, and it got 25 mpg to boot (which,
considering lots of cars got 6 to 15 mpg, was positively thrifty). Less
room, but less angst!
(My boss at the St. Anthony Public Library drove a Pacer. I thought it was
the neatest car I'd ever seen. <g>)
Nancy Kaminski
who's always driven teensy, tiny cars
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:04:54 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Check in from central part of Arkansas
I wanted to let everyone know who may here about a tornado striking Benton,
ARkansas as well as other areas in the Central part of the state that as far as
I know, all the FK fans are safe. No one has checked in with me, but the two of
us who live in Benton, live about a mile from where the tornado hit. I still
don't know if I have a house (due to trees down), but I do know the storm did
not hit my house. (I'm at work in Little Rock at the moment).
The same can not be said for the rest of my small city from what I hear. From
what I hear, a number of businesses along the main stretch were damaged, and at
least one is "gone".
I just wanted to check in as a number of you have an idea of where I live. If I
do find my home has been damaged, I will let everyone know. But from what
everyone has told me, it is safe.
This is a VERY odd feeling to know for sure!
--Libs
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:09:42 -0500
From: "Laura C. Vandivier" <lmc@g.......>
Subject: Re: Heating Oil Crunch
"Brenda F. Bell" wrote:
> Expensive-brand premium gasoline didn't jump to more than 45 cents a gallon
> on Long Island until the 1973-74 oil crisis. Regular gas jumped up to a
> dollar a gallon or more during the crisis and dropped back into the sixty-
> and seventy-something cent ranges afterwards. Gas jumped up again during
My very first car got 7-8 mpg. After the oil crisis, it cost me a day's
wages just to go cruising on Friday nights. Ah the memories! I can still
remember when $5 in gas practically filled up a car. (Of course, I can also
remember when I would be sent to the store with $1 to buy milk and bread.)
Inflation can make a dent in even a rich vampire's bank account. I wonder
how many fortunes Nick and LaCroix have lost due to things such as war (like
LC's plantations in Vietnam), political instability, currency changes, etc.
--Laura
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:22:32 -0600
From: "Christella M. Stillman" <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: Check in from central part of Arkansas
{{{{{Libs}}}}}
Hope your house is okay. Those trees can be heck on houses. I'm so glad
you were at work at the time and are safe. Houses can be replaced; people
can't be. I'll keep good thoughts for you and the people in Benton.
Christy
cstillma@u.......
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:54:42 EST
From: MLCVamp@a.......
Subject: Re: gas prices
<< Geez... Myabe I shouldn't tell all of you that in Kansas last March/April,
prices got down to 79 CENTS for 87 octane for a good month or so....I'm sure
that Nick would have been having major flashbacks to "he good ol' days" (ie
about late 50s, I guess) where that price was the norm.
>>
Oh, you young fledgling, you!<G> That would have been Nick's flashback to
the mid-1970s, shortly before the first big oil crisis. Prices in the 50s,
and up through most of the 60s, were thirty-some cents per gallon. When we
got married, in 1966, a loaf of bread, pound of hamburger, or half-gallon of
milk cost 25-30 cents. A fairly decent little furnished apartment, in a
complex with a swimming pool, cost us around $110 per month. (OTOH, my
husband's salary for his first job was under $7000 a year, too.)
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