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Logfile LOG9606C Part 12

June 17-June 18, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606C" Part 12

	SPOILER: Francesca, AtA, LK
	SPOILER: LK & Blackwing  (3)
	The Missing Tape Person
	Blackwing: Did they?  (4)
	Fred Mollin at AOL FK Chat
	Scatterings...  (3)
	Killing - sipping - blood volume
	Killing, sipping, blood volume  (3)
	Save Forever Knight/ Hi from Germany
	We're not the only ones (SOS-FK)
	List of stations...
	Ger's Outer Limits
	FK Merchandise/ Sony Doubts we Exist!!
	feeding, sippping, draining
	Spolers: Blackwing
	Lacroix on wheels
	DENVER fans- FK marathon/barbeque
	WAR: Natalie affiliations of all types
	FK Home Video
	this is IMPORTANT!!! really!

Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:47:41 -0400
From:         Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......>
Subject:      Re: SPOILER: Francesca, AtA, LK

On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Amy R. wrote:

> Spoilers for "Francesca," "Ashes to Ashes" and "Last Knight"
> 10
> 9
> 8
> 7
> 6
> 5
> 4
> 3
> 2
> 1
> > In AtA, Nick stakes Divia and she seems to be dying pretty quickly. (in
> > the flashback in NinQ, when LC is staked he is dying *very* slowly....

Well did you see the *size* of the stake that Nick used on Divia?  I don't
mean to sound crude, but it practically blew her chest out.  Plus he drove
is completely through her body.  Compare this to the stake used on
Lacroix with was much smaller and wasn't driven in very deep (though it
seemed to have worked its way in a bit just before Nick pulled it out.)
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:55:15 -0400
From:         Mary Davis <Spirit3679@a.......>
Subject:      Re: SPOILER: LK & Blackwing

In a message dated 96-06-17 21:03:02 EDT, Dotti wrote:

>...(vbeg) and I have a feeling it really happened on the "spirit walk"
>ather than in the
>real world.
                 Dotti R
Dotti, Dotti, Dotti,  are we going to have to change your name to Dottie the
He had his shirt on in the "spirit walk" but he was putting it back on in the
I think we all know what Nick did.   And most of us girls wish he had done it
with us!

Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:59:58 -0400
From:         dotti rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      The Missing Tape Person

Hi gang,

Sorry to waste your width but it can't be helped. There is this wonderful
person out there patiently waiting for two tapes filled with Ger material to
be sent to her.  Unfortunately, I managed to lose her address (I wrote it
down, attached it to the tapes and then erased the message. Then ofcourse,
someone lost the paper on me and I forgot about it for a couple of days.)

SO, wonderful person out there...please contact me via private email so I
can get your tapes out to you?

Again, my apologies to all of you...

Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
Defender of the Knight
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:59:42 -0400
From:         Mei Wa Kwong <kwongm@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Blackwing: Did they?

SPOILER Space just in case:





Okay, its the first time I've seen this infamous episode, and Oh yes.
They did it!  The jerk.  My evidence?  Buttoning the shirt, stupid grin
on his face, kissing Marion afterwards.  If it was just in the spirit
walk, why was he buttoning his shirt, in her bedroom later?  His one itty
bit of redeeming action was calling Nat afterwards and saying "I would
like to see you."  I took that as "Yo Nat!  I can do it with a MORTAL!!!!
Let's get down bay-bee!"

I don't think he told her to sordid details.  I don't
think he told her all those times it was hinted at that he may have done
something with Janette in the Season 2 episodes.  I don't think Nick is
that indiscreet or stupid.  Hey, Nat knows how to kill one of these guys,
or at least hurt them, a lot.

As far as Marion was concerned, I don't think he had any deep feelings
for her.  Grateful yes and eventually his usual dose of guilt, but then
that made me think, oooohhh, he was using her to "dry clean his soul".
Shame!  Not nice Nicky!  Yes, I think he loves Natalie and did in this
episode (hence his eager, I feel great let me share it with you pronto
and maybe do a little dance in the sheets because I think I can now), but
Marion was the means to achieve all this and he wasn't going to let that
opportunity go.  However, she did offer it.

Well my $0.02.

N&Npacker with stron Natpacker tendencies.
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:09:27 -0400
From:         Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......>
Subject:      Re: SPOILER: LK & Blackwing

On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, dotti rhodes wrote:

> At 01:36 PM 6/17/96 -0500, you wrote:
> >10
> >9
> >8
> >7
> >6
> >5
> >4
> >3
> >2
> l
> Now, Stephanie, I don't think Nick told her the sordid details....he
> wouldn't be that cruel. I don't even consider it cheating in as much as
> being swept up in something he couldn't quite get a handle on...that's the
> way he looked when he showed up in her bedroom. He looked totally confused.

I totally agree.  I don't see why/how some here and on the newsgroup are
so critical of Nick in this scene.  Here he is driving along and all of
a sudden he has visions from the spirit plane (the third time that night).
Plus Jess told him point blank that he was certain that Marion could "heal
the darkness" within him.  So what was he suppose to do?  Ignore her?  Why?
I really don't believe that he went to her thinking "I'll get laid so I
can be healed."  He had no idea what was going to happen and even afterwards
he didn't quite know what had happen.

> Besides, poor boy had been without Janette for quite a while....(vbeg) and I
> have a feeling it really happened on the "spirit walk" rather than in the
> real world.

Nope.  Disagree with you here.  I think that did the wild thang in the
real world, sotaspeak.  BTW, Blackwing is one of my favorite episodes
specifically because of the bedroom/spiritwalk scene.  Nick's kisses
looked really.........nice.
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:12:13 -0500
From:         D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject:      Re: SPOILER: LK & Blackwing

>He had his shirt on in the "spirit walk" but he was putting it back on in the

Ah, but if you look closely, Mary, you'll notice that he's not buttoning up
anything Marian didn't unbutton *before* the spirit walk started. (Collar and
*one* cuff.)  When she was "sensing" his sickness.

So those of us that think it was purely "spiritual" have a pretty good
too. :)

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                    gryphon@e.......  #
#    WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Look, I know you're a figment of my imagination,    #
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Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:31:02 -0400
From:         Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject:      Fred Mollin at AOL FK Chat

Just got a note from Fred - he can't come until closer to midnight ET

The chat will be extended beyond midnight for this reason.  Just so you know
so that you can come later instead.

The chat regularly starts at 11 pm ET in the Remote Control Chat Room on AOL,
keyword: TV GOSSIP.  We'll chat about "Blackwing" in the interim.

Marcia Tucker
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:44:44 -0700
From:         Antonia Spadafina <asginger@i.......>
Subject:      Scatterings...

Hi all--

   Just a few tidbits...
        1)  Have y'all seen the new montage on the Sci-Fi Channel?  It features
scenes from many of the shows currently airing.  FK has contributed at least
three scenes that I could catch.  Makes me more assured that they are dedicated
to the airing of the show as promised.
        2)  Also - tho I may be losing my mind - I believe the opening credits
are different for these eps now being shown on SF from the ones I have from
syndie and USA (ECKK! - sorry to put that in print).  There are two new scenes
- f Tracy and Vachon!  I may re-record just to get that picture of BB.
        3)  On a totally unrelated note - what War is this?  I see up to War 4
on the FTP site.  Is this #5, or is there stuff missing?  Email private (addies
in sig) if you would, as I am currently nomail.
        4)  I saw Ger's ep of Outer Limits just a few minutes ago.  Since I am
Showtime deprived, Mom recorded it for me.  I must admit, I was LOL.  What a
series of coincidences and parallel plot lines.  Gee whiz.  I guess this
qualifies as a YKYBWTM...  All that adult content - AND NOT ONE MINUTE OF IT
WAS WITH GER!!!  The scene where he is in bed with Melanie Mayron reminded me
of the old Hollywood rule that actors in bed must be fully dressed with one
foot on the floor.  I couldn't hardly b'lieve my eyes, Guvnor.  Sorry for
unloading, but it seems patently unfair.

Just some thoughts...
*Toni S.  /  asginger@i.......  _OR_   antonia_spadafina@s....... *
*new Vaquera, old Knightie from NYC                                   *
*DUM SPIRO SPERO!!                                                    *
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:35:23 -0500
From:         Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Killing - sipping - blood volume

At 06:47 PM 6/17/96 -0400, DreamWeb wrote:

>Those of us on the list are drawn to vampires because it satisfied our
>need to believe that immortality is possible.

Ahem... I am drawn to vampires, especially what I call "reluctant" vampires.
I'm not exactly sure why this is, but I know it's not for the reason you

>Please forgive the waste of bandwidth.

Not at all.  It was lovely.  Just remember that what draws us to vampires,
Forever Knight, and this list isn't the same for all of us.

Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:33:51 -0500
From:         Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Killing, sipping, blood volume

At 05:36 PM 6/17/96 -0500, Sandra Gray wrote:

>Nick was shown "sipping" in a couple of episodes (Crazy Love, Black
>Buddha) so it *is*, I suppose, possible for a vampire not to kill a

In Crazy Love, I believe LaCroix made it clear to Nick that he would either
end up killing Amalia or bringing her across.  "Sipping" and leaving her
alive and mortal just wasn't an option.

In Black Buddha, Claire cut her own arm, and offered Nick the blood.  Nick
didn't have to bite into her.  I've always assumed that made the difference.

>And, personally, I prefer that they *not* be sipping vampires as it adds
>lots more danger, tension, and drama.

I agree with you, in general, about the drama, though it also works for
me if the vampire can take the victim either "quickly or slowly", as LaCroix
said in Crazy Love.

Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:30:26 PST
From:         June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Killing, sipping, blood volume

:But when you're donating, only your heart is pushing out the blood.  I've
:always thought that there's a lot of suction going on in a vampire attack.

In one of the episodes, Nick says that the beating heart is necessary to
bring the blood to the neck. Otherwise the body has to be drained (like a
side of beef is the impression I got).

:That's even more reason for a vampire attack to kill, now that I think of
:it.  I mean, if there was enough suction pulling on the blood vessels,
:there's got to be a good deal of damage there.

Actually, suction makes it difficult to get blood out of vessels. They tend
to collapse (as any phlebotomist or respiratory therapist will tell you). If
you suck hard enough to do a lot of damage, then you probably are going to
collapse the vessel (unless you're going for a femoral).


Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat    kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:10:15 -0400
From:         "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject:      Re: Blackwing: Did they?

What you didn't see in Blackwing but what was in the script--


Nick and Marian are an unconscious, naked tangle on the futon.  Nick wakes
and he gently disentangles himself.

He stares ar Marian for a beat . . . she sleeps quietly, her troubled rest

Nick puts a tentative hand on her neck, just to be sure -- but she's alive,
unmarked by fangs.

Nick moves to the mirror.  Looks at himself closely.  There's something
different somehow.

Yeah, like he doesn't have any clothes on.

Note:  Buy Natalie book on Indian healing ritials for birthday.

susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
STILL Faithful Ravenette.
"Friends help you move.  Real Friends help you move bodies."
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:38:25 -0400
From:         Linda Kelly Lieser <LLieser@a.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBWTMFKW.....

Hi Lynne whats up in toronto? i have a freind who lives out there. but the
reasoni'm writeing is to let you know that there is a few books out on FK
there by susan garrett e-mail her  and ask how to order them from her .The
books sound very good <from what i have read on them> she is a very good
auther and i can't wait to see more of her work .i think you will like them.
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:38:19 -0400
From:         Linda Kelly Lieser <LLieser@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Save Forever Knight/ Hi from Germany

hi do you carry anything in english? i would be most intersessted if you do?!

Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:54:39 -0400
From:         Mary Davis <Spirit3679@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Scatterings...

In a message dated 96-06-17 22:47:34 EDT, you write:

> GER!!!  The scene where he is in bed with Melanie Mayron reminded me of the
>old Hollywood rule that actors in bed must be fully dressed with one foot on
>the floor.

It must have floored you, cuz he was in bed with Mel Harris.  But I guess
that would be a 30something thang.

Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:11:28 +0000
From:         Lisa <redjasper@e.......>
Subject:      Re: We're not the only ones (SOS-FK)

On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Eileen Salmas wrote:
>What we really have to do is write our congressional
>represenatives (just joking).

And Felicia Bollin responded:
>Didn't Bjo Trimble say she *did* do that, when it was
>Star Trek?  Who's got the original post?  Someone got a
>response from her that said that, I know they did.

I think that was probably me, since Back When when we
were starting SOS-FK, I asked onlist if anyone had thought
of asking Bjo for advise, and thus I inadvertently became her
e-mail "contact" in FK fandom.  (Even though I gave her plenty
of other folks' e-mail addresses, including Lisa P., Cynthia,
and Diane E., she just kept writing to me, and I just kept passing
her insights on to the list!)

Her original post (as Lisa digs though the SOS-FK folder on her
hard drive..) to me/FORKNI-L said, in part (and this is more than 4
lines, but I think they're all important--y'all can chastise me later
if I deserve it):

>>Send out the campaign info EVERYWHERE. I mean it should go into the envelopes
 where you mail checks to pay bills, into anything you send out of your home.
 Never know where fans lurk! I discovered dozens of Trek fans this way, in mail
 order houses, the gas company, the phone company and even at the bank! I sent
 letters to my Congress-critters -- they probably didn't get the mail, but their
 office workers did, and I got replies (the usual soothing stuff) which I then
 copied and sent to the studio!<<

And, Bjo recently sent me this message, which I'm including in its
entirity 'cause, again, I think it's important:

>>Subj:  RE: your praise of SOS Forever Knight
Date:  Wed, Jun 5, 1996 10:08 AM EDT
From:  Bjo_FrmMgr@m.......
X-From: Bjo_FrmMgr@m....... (Bjo Trimble)
To: MVRJasper@a.......

Well, one thing to push for is telefilms if you can't have the weekly
series. The Alien Nation people are freer to go with other projects
between filming, which can't happen on a hard-pressed weekly.  So
it might be better for the actors, too.

Also, there is more production time, which means higher FX, better
production values, more script detail... telefilms have a lot going
for them, really.

Thanks for the info on this, and keep me posted, please.  My next
deadline is June 26, so anything up to that date, any news, any
breaks, would be of great interest to my other readers.  -- Bjo<<

**Note the June 26 deadline for her newsletter, and the fact that
Bjo Trimble WANTS input from FK fandom about the SOS campaign!
:)=  Those In Charge of Things, please send her updates!  Especially
you, oh Charity Goddess, Other Lisa!  :D

Lisa W. * redjasper@e.......
who's sorry she didn't pass this on sooner,
but who's been preoccupied with other stuff...
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:38:07 -0500
From:         TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Killing, sipping, blood volume

Amy wrote:

>      You really do pose an interesting question.  I think this is just one of
>those things that TPTB hope we don't notice.  Kinda like 'where do the swords
>go' in Highlander.'

I thought they just all had hollow legs.  You mean they don't?

As for vamps drinking the blood so fast:  Of course they can drain a person
of 5 quarts in 5 seconds flat!  Why?


Like a Hoover, I tell ya!

The hickey from hell, donctha know?!

No, really, I think they just have really great strength in the ol' mouth
area.  I don't see why they'd *need* a beating heart to drink, I mean they
can drink from other vampires and vampires' hearts beat once in ten minutes.

And Lacroix does so have Nick's best interests at heart, so NYAH! ;)

Wicked Cousin Tippi, Infamous Thong Thronger!
*Voyeur of the Menage Lacroix*Founding member Unnamed Faction*
"I feel pretty!  Oh so pretty!  Oh so pretty and witty and wiiiiiise!"
-- Something LC probably never sings (in public).
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:52:30 -0700
From:         Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject:      List of stations...

Someone posted a web page with all the stations that show FK... I am
attempting to bring across a friend and need this so I can tell him where
he can watch it... thanks soo much for whoever gives me this page. :)

-Wendy Marie-   \|/              Unnamed Faction*Cousin
               |o o|             "We *are* each other.  You will always
     -------ooO~(_)~Ooo------    be mine, eternally." LC to Nick
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:45:11 -0700
From:         Shirley Davis <pitbull@d.......>
Subject:      Ger's Outer Limits

   This is no fair!!  I was all set to watch Outer Limits and realized after
I had the vcr set THAT I DON'T GET SHOWTIME!!!!!  Now I'm reading all this
juicy gossip about the bedroom scene.  It's just not fair.  Can anyone make
me a copy?
Same as always, will pay for postage.

On another note:

I had a very weird experience today. It was slow at work today so I was
reading my book (vampire story)and this guy comes in the office and I almost
fainted.  This guy was the spitten image of Ger!  I almost did 2 things, 1)
fall off my chair and 2) leap over the counter and yell, "He's mine, He's
Mine".  I was dumbstruck, and to top it off he wasn't married.
This really made my day.

Thought I'd let everyone know.

A Vampire at Heart
Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:59:28 -0400
From:         Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Blackwing: Did they?

Mei Wa Kwong writes:
>SPOILER Space just in case:
>His one itty bit of redeeming action was calling Nat afterwards and
>saying "I would like to see you."  I took that as "Yo Nat!  I can
>do it with a
>MORTAL!!!! Let's get down bay-bee!"

I have a slight problem with this theory ;)

If that was the case, then why didn't Nick *ask* Nat to do the nasty?  Or
reach out to her, or look lingeringly or longingly at her, or anything of the
kind, when he saw her subsequent?

Felicia Bollin
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved
Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:01:29 -0700
From:         Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject:      Re: Scatterings...

On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Mary Davis wrote:

> > GER!!!  The scene where he is in bed with Melanie Mayron reminded me of the
[snipped stuff]
> It must have floored you, cuz he was in bed with Mel Harris.  But I guess
> that would be a 30something thang.

Ger did a movie with Mayron, too: Other Women's Children. He played the
husband there as well. Ger has been "married" to *2* women from
ThirtySomething! And both women were playing doctors. Wonder if this has
some great cosmic meaning? Nah, probably not.

Wanted to point out that there were a lot of people having sex in this
episode, without most or any of their clothes on, with the exception of
the married couple! A married couple, moreover, who were bemoaning their
childless state. Someone should tell them if they want kids they gotta do
more than lie next to each other in their pj's. Gee, and one them's a
doctor, too!

(Rest of post censored--oops, I mean *edited* cause I'm a librarian and
don't censor things--for family list. If you don't know, email me
privately with an age statement and I'll tell you what I can {nudge nudge
wink wink say no more}.)

Date:         Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:12:21 -0700
From:         Sherri <sherric@e.......>
Subject:      FK Merchandise/ Sony Doubts we Exist!!

Hi guys! I just got this note from Anne at TV_ShowStuff... lets get the
emails rolling to these people okay?? If we can convince Sony that we
exist, it might just lend itself to getting movies, etc. :)

<---- Begin Forwarded Message ---->
From: TV_ShowStuff@p....... ( ANNE W MARION)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:00:43, -0500
To: sherric@e.......
Subject: FK Merchandise?

Hi Sherri! We need as much support right now for FK as possible. Sony
does not believe that there are as many FK fans out there as we have
told them.

We are fighting real hard for the merchandise rights for the
show and we need ALL the support we can get right now. We need EVERY
FK fan to email us to tell us of their love for the show and what
kinds of merchandise they would consider purchasing if we get the
license. Do you have numbers of approx how many FK fans are out there?

If you would like to talk further, please email me.  Time is ticking away,
so if you know of a way to post this note to
get fans out there to email us please communicate this to them. We
are fighting BIG TIME for this and need all the support we can get.
Every SINGLE email will be presented to Sony personally.
Let me know if you would like to talk further on this.
Thanks a lot!!!

end forwarded message....

Sherri        sherric@e....... / FFF / Founding Member, SFKS
Save FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Teniente de los companeros del Vachon y Vaqueros
Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:18:52 -0400
From:         Deborah Bender <DBendr@a.......>
Subject:      re feeding, sippping, draining

       Margaret Carter's practical objections to the way FK vampires are
depicted feeding are valid ones, I think. What we have been shown and told
would only be physically possible if vampires have other specialized physical
adaptions for feeding in addition to their retractable fangs.
      One idea that occurs to me is that vampires have a means to reduce the
viscosity of blood so that it flows as or more rapidly than water. James
Parriott once posted a note on AOL to reconcile the inconsistencies some have
noted in the methods FK vampires use to bring people across. He said that FK
vamps have hollow fangs like vipers and can inject their own blood into
victims. This statement raises as many problems as it solves, but hollow
fangs are now canon.
      South American vampire bats have a substance in their saliva that
inhibits blood from clotting (true fact). Perhaps FK vampires produce a
highly concentrated agent that, when injected into the victim's bloodstream,
breaks down the walls of blood cells and simultaneously pulls in water from
surrounding tissue to dilute the blood. Volume would go up, but viscosity
would go down, and the result might be a fluid that vampires could absorb
very rapidly.
       Can you tell I'm of the science fiction rather than fantasy camp of
vampire appreciation? Anyone have a more convincing theory?

Deborah Bender   DBendr@a.......
Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:20:38 -0400
From:         Judith Freudenthal <DanaKnight@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Spolers: Blackwing

I too think Nick would be much better off if he dumped the guilt.  I think it
would be quite funny if the cure to his vampirism was to dump the guilt.

I think one of the reasons Nat reacted the way she did was she knows Nick has
a tendency to jump first and ask questions later.  He also wants a quick
cure, an instant fix, not one that takes time and hard work.

I too think that Nat had very heavy suspicions that Nick slept with Marion
instead of sleeping with her.  Even during the Fix ep when he was "mortal" he
did not sleep with Nat and that has me a little confused.  But then again
Nick seems to be that way most of the time so I'm in good company.

Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:20:19 -0400
From:         Judith Freudenthal <DanaKnight@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Mercs

Dianne De Sha said:
 Um... and your point would be.....??? <vwg>

to my statement to any newbies wanting to hire a Merc.  (necessary
information to prevent problems during wartime)

Mercs have also been known to accept payment from both sides.  (If you hire
them to do something to x then x may also hire them (and possibly pay more)
for whatever x wants done).

I just wanted to warn the newbies not to expect exclusivity in their
contracts unless the fee is something completely outstanding and it is part
of the contract.  If I am wrong please feel free to correct me.  (I have
never hired a Merc, only read others posts.)

Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:20:52 -0400
From:         Judith Freudenthal <DanaKnight@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Lacroix on wheels

Do you think someone with LC's attitude would drive himself?  I figured he
either flew or had a driver.  If he did drive it would be a top of the line

Knightie, N&Npacker and Natpacker
Date:         Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:27:00 -0600
From:         Lisa Marvin <wyllow@n.......>
Subject:      DENVER fans- FK marathon/barbeque

We'd like to have a get-together for FK fans on June 29, to watch our
favorite tapes and have a barbeque.  We'd like an RSVP from you if you
are in this area and would like to join us.  If you could let us know by
the 25th, we'd appreciate it, and we will look forward to a fun evening.

Please contact Peggy at   pwiltz@i.......
               Lisa at    wyllow@n.......

Lisa M.,  fearless and everlasting Nick&NatPacker - (wyllow@n.......)
"Though lovers be lost love shall not..."  D.T.
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT! - see this great webpage for details:
Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:01:58 -0400
From:         Linda Kelly Lieser <LLieser@a.......>
Subject:      Re: WAR: Natalie affiliations of all types

Hi i would like to join the Knights and the N&N Packers can some one please
get ahold of me by E-mail thanks  Kelly L
Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:14:15 -0400
From:         esalmas <esalmas@g.......>
Subject:      FK Home Video

Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:34:13
To: FK Server
From: esalmas <esalmas@g.......>
Subject: FK Home Video

I had a meeting last week with the PR people for Columbia TriStar Home Video
and we talked a bit about what it would take to get FK released on video. I
was also discussing it earlier today with Justine Pierce at CTS Television
Distribution. He said, BTW, that Ger is VERY nice and he had a great time
with him when he was doing an autograph session at a book store last year to
promote the show. This from a man who has to deal with tempermental stars
all the time. He thought Ger was a breath of fresh air.

Anyway, back to my main point. The person to write to -- and not inundate --
but a gradual influx of letters -- is Paul Culberg
                Executive Vice President
                Columbia TriStar Home Video
                10202 West Washington Boulevard
                Culver City, CA  90232

I suggest we tell him that we really enjoyed FK on television and were
hoping they were planning to release episodes to video as had been done
successfully with other cult show -- mainly Quantum Leap and X Files. Paul
is a really nice guy with no axe to grind. An intelligent letter will go a
long way to making us look good and getting us what we want. I'm sure I
don't have to tell any of you this.

Eileen Salmas
Unnamed Faction and Dark Knightie
"The truth is out there. It's just not in my jurisdiction."
Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:45:23 -0400
From:         Mei Wa Kwong <kwongm@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Blackwing: Did they?


Rats!  Did it again.  Felicia wrote that she didn't agree with my
analysis of Nick WANTING to see Natalie when he called her the next
morning after that sinful tryst because he didn't follow-up on it when
she did get there.  2 things:  A) he had the wind knocked out of his
sails a little when he realized he still could spontaneously combust if
he went in the sun and B) Nat didn't look like she was in the mood.  :)
Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:54:48 -0500
From:         TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject:      this is IMPORTANT!!! really!

Hi all,

This is important.  This has to do with Sony licensing FK merchandise.  Anne
Marion (TV showstuff) called me the other day to say that it looked like a
longshot that Sony would ever license FK stuff.  They wanted more money than
Anne had.  Anyway, she kept talking to them and talking, and Sony finally
budged a *little*  This is the letter I just got from Anne at TV Showstuff:

(Begin forwarded message)

Hi Tippi! I have a lot to say!
1. the books will be avail like you said...next year. We will be getting
more info from the publisher in the mail shortly.Yes, we will be selling them!!
2. The photos of G.Wyn Davies are here. 3 are from FK. We will be scanning
them shortly to appear on our web site
Sony has aggreed to listen to us on the FK merchandise. However they have
told us from the get go that they feel there is not enough of a market out
there for them to give us the rights to merchandise the show. We are
fighting HARD for this. What I need to ask of you is this: We need every
single FK fan to email us and tell us their love of the show and what kind
of merchandise they would be willing to purchase from the show. Do you have
any exact numbers of the fans for FK? Approx numbers?
This our FINAL shot at this otherwise it will be gone forever. Like I said
before, we are really fighting to the end on this. My partner and I
convinced Sony to take this a step farther and it is up to US to let Sony
know all about the FK fans. Every email we get is going straight to them,
SERIOUSLY! So this is why all of us need to stick together right now, more
than EVER, and show the executives at Sony who we are and what we want.
PLEASE POST THIS on any and ALL newgroups, BB's, ANYTHING!!
Send email asap. Time is ticking away
We will be usine every piece of email we get, so start typing away.
We really need the support!
Thanks Tippi!
Write soon

p.s. if anyone has exact numbers of FK fans out there please let us know.
This is a crucial battle....we haven't lost yet....

(End forwarded message.)

Could someone PLEASE post this on the newsgroups out there?  I haven't
figured out how to find newsgroups from Netcom yet!

PLEASE oh PLEASE get the word out about this!

Thank you!

Wicked Cousin Tippi, Infamous Thong Thronger!
*Voyeur of the Menage Lacroix*Founding member Unnamed Faction*
"I feel pretty!  Oh so pretty!  Oh so pretty and witty and wiiiiiise!"
-- Something LC probably never sings (in public).

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