FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9606B Part 7
June 9, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606B" Part 7
TOPICS:
IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen! (7)
Day of the Vampires
unaffiliated *** **** in the next WAR!
Virtual Season
Overload...
WAR!
WAR:A Call To Arms
CERK shirt orders
help!! (5)
How to avoid the War
THE BIG LIE
End of 3rd season eps.
Thanks everyone!!!
<No subject&gy;
FK Wishing Crane Update -- three cheers!
Raven Staff (3)
WAR: Immortal Beloveds
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 10:05:19 -0400
From: DreamWeb <dreamweb@d.......>
Subject: Re: IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen!
Wet Blanket #2 (me)...
I have to agree - a steady pounding - continuously - would have a greater
impact (I think). Like they say, "the squeaky hinge gets the most oil"...an
onslaught would only last for the moment. A deluge would be just as Diane E
says ... they'll just assume it's a passing fancy and ignore us.
Caroline
At 08:20 AM 6/9/96 -0500, you wrote:
><sigh> I hate to take the role of Official Wet-Blanket, but...
>
>Lisa, qouting Leslie, quoting John:
>>> >Perhaps we should organize some sort of project where we pick a new
>>> >(media) company to "bug & inform" (them about FK) each month or
>>> 4) Lots of folks (500+?) to write to that person, .
>>>>>>>_all_at_the_same_time!
>
>People, I know this sounds like a great idea *on the surface*, but the plain
>fact is, a slow trickle over time will probably have a bigger impact. TPTB in
>the media are not *stupid* (criminally unperceptive and profit-driven, I'll
>grant you) and *they* know about letter writing campaigns, too. If they get 500
>letters on one day (and how are you gonna get the notoriously erratic PO to
>cooperate in the timing?) and then nothing for the next six months, they'll just
>assume some fan club somewhere got together and organized a letter-writing
>binge. And it will be dismissed as an isolated fluke perpetuated by a small
>group of rabid fans.
>
>But if they get 2-3 letters a day, for months... they're gonna start noticing
>the body count, as it were. They'll notice that there are a lot of us, and
>they'll realize (as they can't, if we only send them a ton of letters *once*,
>then move on to other targets) that we aren't going to go away. And maybe, just
>maybe, they'll start wondering why so many people from so many places are so
>attached to this "dead" (notice the quotes, please) TV show.
>
>And *that* just might get us the attention we need.
>
>I know it's tempting to play the Hare, and bolt ahead with the battle, but the
>Tortoise won the race, after all. :)
>
>Diane E
># D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
># WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
># "Death cannot stop True Love" Wesley, _Princess Bride_ #
>
--
http://www.novakint.com/rockstar
Seduction of a young girl by her rock idol
readfree: dreamweb@g.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 07:17:21 -0700
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Day of the Vampires
If anyone knows the date(s) of the Day of the Vampires event in NY,
please e-mail me by PRIVATE e-mail.
Thanks.
Laurie
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:34:47 -0400
From: Lisa Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: Re: IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen!
Hi All :)
Lisa M wrote about the letter blitz idea:
>This is a great idea!!! I think that an onslaught of letters
>timed to arrive on the same day would be very informative for
>TPTB. It would show them that FK fans are still around, still
>thinking up ways to organize and make an impression.
I hate to be a downer and I've talked to John about this privately
already, but this type of hit them in one day idea DOES NOT WORK!
TPTB assume, rightly so, that there is one small group (yes, SMALL
GROUP) who decided to spam them. They will very likely ignore the
whole thing -- discard the letters -- not count them as valid
consumer interest in the show. This type of spamming leads to the
belief that TPTB are dealing with a fanatic fringe group rather
then the typical consumer. We want them to believe we are a
cross-section of the entire viewing audience, not some small fringe
group with specialty interests.
>> 5) Letter writing campaigns can be very effective, especially
>>when an unsuspecting receiver of said mail gets BAGS of mail all
>>at once, or whose mail room blows a gasket, fax machines run out
>>of paper...
A sustained influx of mail over the course of weeks and months is
MUCH MORE effective then one explosion. Besides that, wasting
people's fax paper is more likely to cause them to get annoyed with
the group doing it than to look on their crusade with a positive
eye. How long do you think it's going to take for their fax
machine to run out of paper? How long before the person that hands
out the faxes realizes that they are all about the same thing and
decides to throw them away? The one thing we don't want to do is
annoy people that we are trying to get to come over to our view of
things and do something for us.
>> US Independence day is close (July 4). Could we organize the
>>first LETTER BLITZ by then? (Or on some other relevant date, from
>>Canada, perhaps?)
This is just my humble opinion, but I can't stress enough, feel
free to write letters, write them once a week, every day, once a
month, whatever, but don't blitz anyone. It could cause a great
deal more harm than good.
Lisa Prince (Moonlight@g.......) Official Charity Drive Organizer
Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Send to: Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity,
360 Connecticut Avenue, Suite 133, Norwalk, CT 06854-1824
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 09:42:10 -0700
From: Dvixen Vidi Vici <dvixen@w.......>
Subject: Re: unaffiliated *** **** in the next WAR!
I think I have found my calling.
On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, a siren (D Echelbarger) wrote:
> Unaffiliated DO NOT WORK FOR OTHER FACTIONS! With, yes, FOR, no! We are the
> *ultimate* free agents, corruptible by no bribe or payment and accountable to
> no-one but our individual selves. <hmph!>
>
> Got that? :)
Oh yes, I think I like the way you think my darling...
> Grumpily defending her lack of affliation.
Please, do cheer up. You have helped me make my final decision of
affiliation. Coffee? Black or with cream or sugar?
--
AJ Schaafsma Dvixen@w.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:54:07 -0600
From: Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......>
Subject: Re: Virtual Season
Having read most of the virtual season posts, I wondered if anyone knew
what a different certain fandom does to ease the pain of summer (or
in-sesason) reruns.
This fandom in question (pretty far from FK - OK, I'll 'fess up - it's
Lois & Clark) distributes a fanfic on every Sunday night that a new episode
does not air. I get that in email. Now, I don't subscribe to any of their
regular listserv lists - FK lists are plenty for me, thank you, but I do
receive the fanfic in my mail every Sunday night that a new episode airs.
I assume its discussed on their lists. Whether it is or not, it's really
great to get a *shot* of new legend material weekly.
I'd definitely be up for a weekly dose of new FK, virtually or otherwise.
Regards to all,
Sharon
--------Sharon Joy - A Forever Knightie - SJoy@u.......----------
Blink and they'll al be ghosts; blink & they'll all be gone...
Go here: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:37:20 -0700
From: Russell Kurtz <russtms@e.......>
Subject: Overload...
Well, the time has come to admit that I've gotten totally overloaded.
For the time being, I'm going to have o go nomail on all my
non-"professional" accounts.
I guess even list geezers run out of free time.
If anything interesting comes up, though, feel free to email me...
Russ
russtms@e.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:43:29 -0700
From: Angie <alasher@e.......>
Subject: Re: IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen!
At 08:20 AM 6/9/96 -0500, D Echelbarger wrote:
>People, I know this sounds like a great idea *on the surface*, but the plain
>fact is, a slow trickle over time will probably have a bigger impact. TPTB in
>the media are not *stupid* and *they* know about letter writing campaigns, too
> If they get 500 letters on one day and then nothing for the next six months,
> they'll just assume some fan club somewhere got together and organized a
>letter-writing binge. And it will be dismissed as an isolated fluke perpetuated
> by a small group of rabid fans. But if they get 2-3 letters a day, for months...
Sorry about over quote there. Well maybe we should pick 26 totally huge targets,
starting with the week of the 4th of July, we all write the first target.
Then the next
week we all write the next target, and everyone whose last name starts with *A*
writes the first target too. And we do it for 26 weeks, every week, Bumping up
the letter of the last name so that we travel thru the alphabet and keep a
steady stream of letters going. That way we maybe write two letters a week each.
Not only arewe hitting a major target big time on a weekly basis but we are also
reinforcing it with backup letters. I'm sure we can work something like that
out. A round robin of sorts.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lasher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ The Dust =>:o} Bunny * Les Cousines du Chevaliet ~~
~ Unnamed Faction ~ Moo Member ~ http://home.earthlink.net/~alasher
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:44:49 -0700
From: Angie <alasher@e.......>
Subject: Re: WAR!
Will someone e-mail me offlist and tell me who I am supposed to be
fighting with in the coming WAR? I wanna play too!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lasher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~ The Dust =>:o} Bunny * Les Cousines du Chevaliet ~~
~ Unnamed Faction ~ Moo Member ~ http://home.earthlink.net/~alasher
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:55:13 -0700
From: Torrey <neva@i.......>
Subject: Re: WAR:A Call To Arms
>However, I really have to ask: who started it? and what (at least at
>present) is it about??
Very good question. The answer is we don't know and we dont know <G>. As
with every other war the faction starting the war are the only ones that
know. I can say we did not start this one <G>. We will have to wait and see
what happens.
"Dona" Torrey <neva@i.......>
*VAQUERA*
Mikies
"Freedom rings where opinions clash" Adlai Stevenson
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:00:37 -0400
From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......>
Subject: CERK shirt orders
Hi Everyone,
I will most likely be giving Ron the Enforcer the order on Monday (probably
late evening (EST) as I have to work during the day). I'm still receiving
orders, but if yours does not make it in this time - don't worry. I will
hold onto your order until I reach the 25 minimum required. From time to
time I will repost the CERK shirt info to the list for those of you who may
want to order but had not been on the list at that time or might just have
missed it.
I will also be letting everyone who ordered know when Ron placed the order.
Please hold onto your checks until I send in the order.
One more thing. I sent out Confirming Orders to those of you who ordered.
Please reply to me privately if these confirming orders are correct as soon
as possible. If you had ordered and didn't receive from me a confirming
order, let me know.
Thanks again,
Lisa Patnaude
***************************************************************************
Only one thing is truly permanent...Forever Knight
Cousinly Knightie w/NatPacker tendencies <I do so hate to limit myself>
LadysAVamp@a....... -- "Hey, who you calling a lady!?!"
oboyyme@t....... -- <Lacroix's unheard thoughts at end of LK>
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:07:20 -0700
From: Laura Beth Bedard <lbedard@i.......>
Subject: help!!
Hi all,
I know this question has been asked a zillion times, but I just
subscribed to the FKFIC list and don't want to participate in the war.
Can someone please e-mail me privately and tell me how to "not" do
this. Also since I am new to the list is there anyone out there willing
to take the time to explain all of the "factions" etc. to me. I really
enjoy reading everything and would like to be more active, but am
pretty lost at times.
Thanks in advance,
Laura Bedard
lbedard@i.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:23:12 -0400
From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......>
Subject: Re: help!!
Dear Laura,
Hi!
What I did was type *exactly*
set fkfic-l topics -war
should work!
Joy
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:37:02 -0400
From: DreamWeb <dreamweb@d.......>
Subject: Re: help!!
I'm also new...I would like the same information: dreamweb@d.......
being a neophyte...I don't want to offend anyone...instructions and
information would be greatly appreciated.
Caroline @ the DreamWeb
At 12:07 PM 6/9/96 -0700, you wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know this question has been asked a zillion times, but I just
>subscribed to the FKFIC list and don't want to participate in the war.
>Can someone please e-mail me privately and tell me how to "not" do
>this. Also since I am new to the list is there anyone out there willing
>to take the time to explain all of the "factions" etc. to me. I really
>enjoy reading everything and would like to be more active, but am
>pretty lost at times.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Laura Bedard
> lbedard@i.......
>
--
http://www.novakint.com/rockstar
Seduction of a young girl by her rock idol
readfree: dreamweb@g.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 14:48:01 -0500
From: michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......>
Subject: Re: help!!
>Laura Bedard asked about -war and the Factions
I send her the Factions FAQ and the instructions for getting off the WAR loop.
michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:00:15 -0500
From: michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......>
Subject: Re: help!!
>Caroline @ the DreamWeb asked about -war and the Factions.
I sent her the Factions FAQ and the instructions for getting off the WAR loop.
michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:04:54 -0500
From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: How to avoid the War
A lot of people have been asking this, so I decided to post an explanation.
You can't avoid war posts on this list (FORKNI-L) because it isn't set to
screen them out. To avoid War posts on the fic list, send a message to
listserv@p....... (I'm assuming you're already subscribed to fkfic-l)
Leave the subject line blank. In the body of the text, put ONLY the things
between the <> below. Not the <>, no sig file, nothing else.
<set fkfic-l topics -War>
Then wait. In a minute (five, tops) you'll get a reply back that shows your
listserv options. If it *doesn't* say, besides a bunch of other stuff, "The
topics you subscribe to are: War," you've done it right.
For those of you that want the War but not the other fic (though I honestly
can't imagine why you would) I'm guessing you can say
<set fkfic-l topics -Xover, -Adult, -Other>
and only get War posts, but I could be wrong.
Diane E
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Death cannot stop True Love" Wesley, _Princess Bride_ #
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 16:24:46 -0500
From: Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen!
At 11:43 AM 6/9/96 -0700, Lasher wrote:
>Sorry about over quote there. Well maybe we should pick 26 totally huge targets,
>starting with the week of the 4th of July, we all write the first target.
<SNIP>
>I'm sure we can work something like that out. A round robin of sorts.
I think what everyone is trying to stress here is that although we are
organized, we aren't really supposed to look that way. There was a time
during the last campaign when the letteres to TriStar were being forwarded
to the FK office instead. I'm not sure how this happened since we are not
supposed to put anything about FK on the envelope, but that was what we heard.
Even though viewer organizations like ours are made up of "Joe Q Public",
TPTB don't look at it that way. The letters that stream in individually are
much more powerful than an onslaught and I think they'd notice that they
were getting letters from people with just "A's" and they would start to
toss them in the circular file.
People should just concentrate on writing. Everyone should. And the flyers
have to be gotten back out there to the campuses and the comic book and
speciality shops etc. If everyone were writing, then we wouldn't need to
organize anyone.
Annmarie
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 16:32:31 -0400
From: Stephanie Way <Biancaswan@a.......>
Subject: THE BIG LIE
"For the right or wrong of it, program lives are directly related to
viewership levels. High rated programs live and low rated programs go away."
the VP at Sci-fi channel was quoted.
This is the biggest crock of shinola. EVERYONE in the business says this and
it usually true. But the history of TV is littered with shows that had decent
numbers and still got cancelled. There were high rated shows that got
deliberately canned, Murder She Wrote for example, by moving it to another
slot. Or in the case of Due South, moved and preempted constantly. The list
goes on.
If a network wants a show killed, for whatever reason, (someone at NBC didn't
like Quantum Leap) they know how to use and manipulate the ratings system to
do so. There is also a policy when a new head of entertainment takes over a
network, he is inclined to disregard and even cancel the shows of his
predecessor.
As someon once said, the industry is half ego half money . The " poor
ratings" is a convienant excuse. Remember, these are the same people who
think sweeps period ratings are accurate and work.
SW " There's no business, like show business- thank God."
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:36:02 PDT
From: Chad Christopher <christop@h.......>
Subject: End of 3rd season eps.
I'm in need of the following eps from the 3rd season:
Dead of Night
Games Vampires Play
Human Factor
Avenging Angel
Fallen Idol
I'm looking for some kind soul to cut me copies in exchange for any other eps
(1st 2nd or 3rd season) or what ever payment deemed necessary ($$, chocolate,
blood).
Let me know privately if you can help.
Thanks in advance!
Chad Christopher <christop@h.......>
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:55:45 -0700
From: Laura Beth Bedard <lbedard@i.......>
Subject: Thanks everyone!!!
Hey!
Thanks for all of the help everyone, I think I've got everything
taken care of now, and am looking forward to reading the FKFIC list.
I've heard a lot about how great these stories are!!!!
Laura
lbedard@i.......
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 16:05:12 -0500
From: Laura Ruggiero <larug@s.......>
As happens every time a War is declared, or even when a lot of
"saber-rattling " occurs, a lot of people want to know how to get, or stop
getting War posts, stop getting mail, or get on digest. Here is how to do
it:
PLEASE NOTE: (1) FORKNI-L does NOT have topics, there is no way to filter
out any subjects, you are stuck getting all the pre-war preparation, sorry.
(2) The Topics available on FKFIC-L are: WAR,
XOVER, ADULT ; the Default topics are: ALL, -ADULT.
(3) If you are on DIGEST, you get ALL the topics,
there is NO WAY to filter certain topicss from a digest.
Send a message to "LISTSERV@p......." (with no quotes), in the BODY of
the message (with no subject) send one of these commands:
SET FKFIC-L Mail (To begin getting mail again after nomailing OR to get
individual posts rather than a digest)
SET FKFIC-L NOMail (To temporarily stop getting mail, which is a lot more
convenient IMHO than unsubscribing from a list)
SET FKFIC-L DIGest (To get the posts in 1 or more large collections ,
rather than as they are individually posted) [see (3) above]
SET FKFIC-L TOPICS: ALL (To get all the topics) (NOTE: the ":" is required
according to the reference card I just got from the listserver)
SET FKFIC-L TOPICS: -WAR (to stop getting war posts from)
SET FKFIC-L TOPICS: +War (To start getting war posts)
So to get only the war posts you could send this command:
SET FKFIC-L TOPICS: -All, +War (Note: I am NOT 100% sure this command is
right, but I think it is)
Make sure you DO NOT have a signature file attached; DO NOT sign your post.
To apply any of these commands to another list at "Listserv@p.......",
just substitute the list name in the above commands.
(This is adapted from the reference card available from
"<LISTSERV@p.......>" (Send "Info Refcard" to the listserver to get
the full list of commands.)
Laura Ruggiero (larug@s.......) (Not a list-owner, but trying to be helpful)
Die-Hard looking for a leader (Since we don't have any leaders, I guess we
can rule out the Die-hards from the possible suspects for starting the war
:-) )
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 14:41:26 -0700
From: Bonnela <callalily@l.......>
Subject: FK Wishing Crane Update -- three cheers!
***** Forever Knight Wishing Crane Update -- 6/9/96 *****
Well, Sony has received the first two FK Wishing Crane mobiles!
Muchas gracias to ALL who participated!
We are only *53* cranes shy of a THIRD crane mobile!!!! This one will go to
the folks at the SciFi Channel. So please keep folding and mailing! And
keep wishing for a fourth season of Forever Knight.
I want to thank everyone who has contributed their time and money to the
project so far. Thanks to everyone who folded, strung, wrote, and
coordinated!
So... keep folding -- at this rate, we'll be able to do a fourth mobile!
Remember to use 3x3 inch paper.
If you need more information about what this crane thing is all about, or if
you just need to know where to send your origami cranes, check out the
Forever Knight Wishing Crane Web Page at
http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/fkcranes.html
or e-mail me off-list.
Bonnie <callalily@l.......>
FK Wishing Crane Project
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 16:59:35 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen!
At 04:24 PM 6/9/96 -0500, Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald wrote:
>the flyers have to be gotten back out there to the campuses and the
>comic book and speciality shops etc.
Would someone mind posting again how to get the flyers?
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
N&NPacker
Cousin of the Knight
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:25:25 -0700
From: Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject: Raven Staff
The more I see of the early Raven, the more I wonder....
Does anyone have a list of all the Raven staff? Or just the bartenders?
Everyone knows who Miklos and Alma are, but can anyone give me the name of
the woman bartender (she looks Polynesian, maybe?) from AMPH -- the one to
whom Janette says, "She's not my *friend*," about Nat?
***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) *****
Be Kind to Hamsters -- Observe the 4-Line Quote Limit
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 17:40:10 -0500
From: kelly jones <kelly39@i.......>
Subject: Re: Raven Staff
>Everyone knows who Miklos and Alma are, but can anyone give me the name of
>the woman bartender (she looks Polynesian, maybe?) from AMPH -- the one to
>whom Janette says, "She's not my *friend*," about Nat?
I think it was Breanna.
>***** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) *****
>Be Kind to Hamsters -- Observe the 4-Line Quote Limit
>
>
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 17:34:47 -0500
From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Raven Staff
>Does anyone have a list of all the Raven staff? Or just the bartenders?
>Everyone knows who Miklos and Alma are, but can anyone give me the name of
>the woman bartender (she looks Polynesian, maybe?) from AMPH -- the one to
>whom Janette says, "She's not my *friend*," about Nat?
Brianna, according to the credits.
Don't think we ever got a name for the shave-headed waitperson, though. :)
Diane E
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Death cannot stop True Love" Wesley, _Princess Bride_ #
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:40:48 PDT
From: "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject: Re: IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen!
Lisa P wrote:
>but this type of hit-them-in-one-day idea (in letter writing)
>DOES NOT WORK!
---and,
>A sustained influx of mail over the course of weeks and months is
>MUCH MORE effective then one explosion.
OK guys, I see this and wholeheartedly agree. Diane, Lisa, etc. are
all correct. Last thing we need is to be perceived as more "fringe"
than we already are (percieved that is).
We talk about the successes of the ST folks. But on the other hand,
how long did it take them to get over being referred to as crazed
"Trekkies"??? They even had to reinvent their fan image
(trekkers, etc.)!
No, I was not suggesting we blast any of the people to whom we are
writing, asking, pleading our case (a/k/a the Powers That Be).
Perhaps I wasn't clear, (that's ENTIRELY POSSIBLE). <wink>
My response to John Folden's comment about writing or getting a write-up
in TV guide had to do with letter writing either through a gimic or on a
targeted topic.. (with due consideration for a
postive/effective-ONLY result) to other publications which have NO
IDEA what's been going on.
The tabloids, the sports mags, scientific mags, I dunno, ANYTHING outside
our baliwick.
--Would college writing programs be interested to hear about the birth
of a writer's group from an internet list which (at the drop of a hat!)
wrote:
--"If Other Authors Wrote FK..."
--Top 100 things LC would never do/say
--Top 10 things Natalie would never say
--Top 10 thinks to know if you're dating a vampire (my personal fav!)
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,
I have been constantly AMAZED in the past month as to how much creative
spontaneous writing, challenges, fiction writing, poetry, songs, and
critical discussion have crossed my path. My old english teachers would
drop dead (if not already) to see me actually applying critical thought
for fun! on my own time! (If I ever saw another final exam starting
with "compare & contrast"..., I would scream. And now, the last
laugh's on me, cause I'm doing it in my spare time!
How about a college (writing) course using FK themes,. discussions, etc.
Any college attendee out there who HASn't seen wackier course offerings?
IT COULD HAPPEN!!!
(er, um, pardon me. Had the rose-colored, big ideas, "What If",
glasses on again. Just happy feet on the brain. It's what this show
and all of you do to me, I guess.)
Anyway, I was asking about getting publications' attention (NICELY,
though) & get THEM asking TPTB... "What's All The Bru-haha?" I'm not
talking about being crazy or thoughtless here. I AM talking about using
all the other avenues of communication to get more & more talking about FK.
Here's a personal example:
I hate it when The Washington Post prints beach station schedules (for
beach towns 100 miles away), but not programming notes after Midnight
on Saturday's Channel 45 listing!) I bet folks wrote in asking for it
& now they've got a TV guide to take with them to the beach. What I
was thinking of is tieing a response/focusing an inquiry to an event
or specific request.
eg: What if all Baltimore/DC/ Northern Va (DC metro area) FK fans wrote
to The Washington Post, The Baltimore Sun, the various Journal Papers
(etc) all asking to have the weekly blurb for FK written up with the other
show's blurbs. I know The Washington Post lists it for Thursday
Mid-Channel 50, and Monday/8pm for SciFi, but not for
Saturday/Mid-Channel 45.
Some don't get cable & *cannot* get Channel 50. What about all those who
get Channel 45, but never know they can see FK on Sats? I'd be willing to
write to The Washington Post to ask them to at least include a blurb in
the Saturday listings (elongating the block schedule on a fixed size page
of paper is NOT feasible) to LET BALTIMORE KNOW they can watch Channel45
for Forever Knight! AND, cc: a copy of the letter to the correct person
at Channel 45. Do the same for the other local papers if the situation
applies.
* * * * *
I don't have the best ideas for this. I was thinking along adjacent
lines. Sometimes the best way to get the primary target's attention,
one can get a secondary's attention well enough to get noticed
indirectly, and produce yet another voice asking "How about..?".
Perhaps, this is a bad idea.
However, you must admit this "WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN" discussion has gotten
newer people willing to volunteer where they didn't think they might be
effective before AND we've gotten more word from those who came before us
about what all that's already been done, so that we DON't trip ourselves
up or throw a wrench into the long-term efforts. So, that we CAN
learn from them & coordinate all our engergies.
The folks mentioned above are Exactly Right! If we bomb someone's
mailroom, they will NOT think kindly of us. I'm willing to be a
TURTLE to WIN this race.
We'll just be rational consumers who won't go away... ever!
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:44:57 PDT
From: "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject: Re: IT WILL HAPPEN, if we Make it Happen!
Dang, I just sent an unfinished post to the list. Was trying to
scroll up to change the ssubject to say "(long)" or maybe edit out some
more of my ramblings, when I hit the "Send" button by mistake! Sorry.
Hope I was clear enough.
Leslie
***FOREVER MEANS... FOREVER!!!***
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Email me for a copy. Hand it out to your friends & non-internet folks!
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:34:05 -0400
From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: WAR: Immortal Beloveds
Hi, this is Felicia Bollin. I'm declaring as leader of the Immortal Beloveds
and announcing our participation in War Seven. If I haven't gotten in touch
with you already, and you want to play with us, let me know. We had a lot of
fun in War Five, and we're looking for more of the same this time. Interim
Motto: We're the Immortal Beloveds! Wanna make something of it? <EG>
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved Leader*MBDtK
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