File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606B" Part 3 TOPICS: mirrors (was Re: John K.) (2) Nick's Taste in Women Last Knight, New Dawn story WAR MSKL: Anyone home? (2) WAR: Stuff Pegasus Publishing Address--Lots of FK Goodies! (2) Dracpackers Unite! (4) Opening Credit change NB in "Back in Action" CERK Shirts Update All the fk sites are grrreeat! Is Vickiann Adams out there?? FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Jun 1996 to 6 Jun 1996 - Special issue Virtual Season The Question!! Hey!! Tia talkin' Please, pretty please read and respond!!!! Cousin leadership announces Nigel Alert/Darkman Apology for mispost ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:30:09 -0500 From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......> Subject: Re: mirrors (was Re: John K.) Mad Hatter wrote: > yea; so do vampires have *no* reflections-positively? > the one ep with the virtual reality gig had nick looking right into > a mirror w/a reflection. but that could've been *in* virtual reality, > so anything is possible ! There is one line in Father Figure that addresses this issue, although I am not sure whether or not it is only in the Canadian version (the version I have) or in both the Canadian and American versions. Anyhoo, Nat askes Nick if he has a reflection, Nick responds 'sometimes'. Just thought you might like to know. :)= -- Carrie, Proud Knightie The Nurse is a hampster ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:54:28 -0700 From: Amy R. <akr@n.......> Subject: Nick's Taste in Women Name Status Hair Eyes Occupation Relationship -------------------------------------------------------------- Gwyneth (QoH) mortal blond blue bard serious Janette vampire black blue club owner serious Alyssa (DoN) mortal blond blue noblewoman serious Amalia (CL) mortal black fling/feeding Erica (LA) vampire brown brown playwright serious Sylvaine (LYTD) mortal blond blue ballerina fantasy Serena (B,B) m/v brown welder fling Alyse (DK) mortal black brown archeologist fling Monica (FtB) mortal black counselor fling/fantasy Emily (StF) mortal black brown author fantasy Marian (BW) mortal black brown painter fling Natalie mortal brown blue pathologist serious/fantasy (Thanks to Sandra Gray for the category "fantasy.") (I'm not very good at making out eye color, but everything else should be accurate. As far as I know, I'm not missing any women not under spoiler protection, except Alexandra the Vampire Dingbat, whose episode I haven't seen. Amalia's occupation would be "daughter of a wine merchant," but that hardly fits. The list is supposed to be chronological.) *** Amy, Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) *** ** Knightie *** Light Cousin *** Fleur-Booster ** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:20:04 -0400 From: Bast Khemet <bast@c.......> Subject: Re: Last Knight, New Dawn story On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Croaker wrote: > Bast... you read too much Mercedes Lackey. :):):) You're the second person to pick up on that. (btw, you can never read too much Mercedes Lackey!!!) Actually, it was totally unconscious, but then I took a look at my character and said, "Wow, jeez, that does seem like her stuff." *grin* > Keep it up! (I vote we pick this as our format for the Virtual Season, > in fact. Wow. I"m honored...that'd be good...whoever wants to. I've got a start on another crossover I meant to post a few months > back, but got sidetracked when I went back to school, and never finished it... Post it! Post it! I love reading fanfic! > I'll be talking to you, Bast. :) I'll be chatting on the list! See you there, Chris! --Bast **Member of the Mercenary Guild **Duchovnik **Wiccan **Platygean **High Priestess of the 23rd Cabal of Our Lady Eris (fnord) This line does not exist. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:23:25 -0500 From: michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......> Subject: Re: WAR At 8:25 PM 6/7/1996, Sandra Gray wrote: >I don't think that was an *entire* war that was posted (they're all >pretty *long*), just a piece of it. 220 Kb's of War2 were posted on 5/10. Does anyone know if that is all of that War? It ends with the lines: "Oh well, Sharon thought. It would have been nice to fly first class. She had to admit that LaCroix knew how to take care of his minions. So, instead, she settled for coach and a clear conscience." michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n....... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:22:17 -0500 From: April Ruskin <aruskin@e.......> Subject: Re: MSKL: Anyone home? >April, if you run out of people to put in, I volunteer! You have treated me >quite well before.... :) Will do! I was thinking that our IRC semi faction needed a name, the only thing I can think of is K-niggits.. any ideas? Our motto of course is We are the FK who say NI, etc, etc.... Our symbol could be a shrubbery and/or a herring. Ideas, comments , suggestions! I will try to incorporate our desicion on the buttons. I like!!! Good Idea! I'm testing out a new mailing program... tell me how this works will ya? -- April Ruskin -- The NinjaBabe w/ an Attitude * aruskin@e....... Loyal Cousin to the death (and beyond!) * SKLer * CSS * UFer * Cousin Mommy to the Cousin Kids * Follower of the X * Empress of the Ellipses * In LK Denial *A Forever Knight who say 'NI!' * YMET* FK is CNIP! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:34:00 -0500 From: April Ruskin <aruskin@e.......> Subject: Re: MSKL: Anyone home? I'm very sorry about that last post!!!! new mailing program... haven't got the kinks out of it yet Please forgive me! -- April Ruskin ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:42:56 -0400 From: Siona <siona@n.......> Subject: WAR: Stuff I haven't seen this mentioned yet and I hope that I'm not overstepping here but, for all the new people and those who haven't participated in a war before here's the most important part: You MUST be subscribed to the FKFIC-L list. To do this send subscribe fkfic-l first name last name in the body of a message (no subject) to LISTSERV@p....... That's only the first part. Next, you have to turn the WAR: topic on. To do this, again send to listserv@p....... a message, with no subject, saying "set topics: +war:" (no quotes) Our listowner has already sent a message with a subject of: WAR: Listowner's Commentary If you did not get this message you will not be able to read any of the war posts. Another way to check if you will be able to read the war posts is to sent a message to the listserv, with no subject, saying "query fkfic-l" (again, no quotes). The message that the listserv sends back will tell you the topics that you are subscribed to. Please note that you do not have to participate in the war to read the messages. Finally, if you did not get the Listowner's Commentary, and would like it, I volunteer to send it out. If you plan on participating this should be mandatory reading. Just let me know and I'll forward you a copy. Hope this helps. OBFK: YKYBW... I was in Erie, PA last weekend, and walking down the street, at an intersection, was confronted with this huge wall and painted on it was "Adopt a brick". Of course my first thought was, "I'll adopt him!" I had to go back later and take a picture of the wall. I'll put the picture up when I have the film developed. Siona@n....... Dark Knightie! and proud member of the Unnamed Faction Watch Forever Knight - SciFi Channel Mon. at 8PM and Tue. 12AM EST. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:28:04 -0500 From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> Subject: Re: Pegasus Publishing Address--Lots of FK Goodies! At 07:25 PM 6/7/96 -0500, D Echelbarger wrote: >Hey, guys! Remember when you all were bombarding TV Showstuff ><http://www.tvshowstuff.com/showstuf/showstuf.html> for FK stuff? >Well, http://www.fastlane.net/homepages/pegasus/ already has it available! I am a great believer in bumper stickers. Diane mentioned that if FK-SOS gives them out free, we'd be undermining Pegasus' sales. She's right. I forgot about that. Bumper stickers are great advertising because your car goes all over town, and lots of people see it. I suggest that when you buy your bumper sticker(s) from Pegasus, (and you _are_ going to buy bumper sticker(s) from Pegasus, aren't you?) that you think about it in terms of advertising. In other words, for example, the bumper stickers about chocolate are wonderful, and you might want to buy one of those too (Buy lots of stickers; they're only $2.00 apiece, plus a little bit for postage.), but IMO it is important to put one on your car that refers to the name of the show; i.e. - either the one that says Forever Knight or one that has the word Knight in it. Margie (treeleaf@i.......) N&NPacker Cousin of the Knight ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:11:09 -0400 From: Jane Credland <janes@i.......> Subject: Re: Dracpackers Unite! Meredith wrote (on fkfic-l): >I am taking a chance (gasp, deep breath here) and announcing myself as head >of the Dracpackers for this impending War. Please contact me (Plan2@a.......) >to announce your intention to join the fun! Due to quote restrictions, I cut the second paragraph of her post which announced that the Dracpackers are a faction from Dracula: The Series, and that she's planning on bringing characters from that series into the war. Umm... I admit that I've only been through one war, but I didn't think that factions representing characters from another series were allowed. Could any of the listowners or folks who have been here since the first war clarify this for the rest of us? Jane (janes@i.......) Raven ** Immortal Beloved ** M.B.D.T.K Tread softly because you tread on my dreams [W.B. Yeats} ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:53:29 -0500 From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> Subject: Re: mirrors (was Re: John K.) At 07:30 PM 6/7/96 -0500, Carrie Krumtum wrote: >Mad Hatter wrote: >> yea; so do vampires have *no* reflections-positively? >There is one line in Father Figure that addresses this issue ... >Nat askes Nick if he has a reflection, Nick responds 'sometimes'. I love it! Can vampires be outside if the sun is still up? Answer - Sometimes. Do vampires feel pain? Answer - Sometimes. Does touching a cross make a vampire start to smoke? Answer - Sometimes. Takes care of a whole lot of inconsistencies! Margie (treeleaf@i.......) N&NPacker Cousin of the Knight ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:25:02 -0700 From: Cousin Cherri <cdmunoz@e.......> Subject: Re: Dracpackers Unite! At 10:11 PM 6/7/96 -0400, Jane Credland wrote: >Meredith wrote (on fkfic-l): > >>I am taking a chance (gasp, deep breath here) and announcing myself as head >>of the Dracpackers for this impending War. Please contact me (Plan2@a.......) >>to announce your intention to join the fun! > >Due to quote restrictions, I cut the second paragraph of her post which >announced that the Dracpackers are a faction from Dracula: The Series, and >that she's planning on bringing characters from that series into the war. > >Umm... I admit that I've only been through one war, but I didn't think that >factions representing characters from another series were allowed. > >Could any of the listowners or folks who have been here since the first war >clarify this for the rest of us? Oh THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!!!!! Cousin Cherri <cdmunoz@e.......> Janette on the SKL list lucius fanaticus Member: CSS, SKL, V Loop, LC From the Desk of: Sectuib SaySha ambrov Tien Sime/Gen I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:29:16 -0500 From: D Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......> Subject: Re: Dracpackers Unite! On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Jane Credland <janes@i.......> wrote: >Umm... I admit that I've only been through one war, but I didn't think that >factions representing characters from another series were allowed. Actually, the convention (as I recall it, I've only been in 2 Wars) is that *no* characters from *any* other TV series is allowed. (Well, Jennie snuck in a cameo for Mulder & Scully once, but it was just a walk-on.) That precludes not just other-series-character factions, but using concepts from other series to benefit yourself. No saying, for example, that you're a Watcher (Highlander) or that your father is an ex-U.N.C.L.E. agent so you can have access to special stuff. You can say you borrowed your company's laptop (if your company is likely to own a laptop, that is) but you're supposed to use creativity to overcome lack of financing/supplies, not "wish" yourself what you need. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me. :) Diane E Yes, I *have* been posting more than usual, lately! How nice of you to notice! :) # D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... # # WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ # # "Death cannot stop True Love" Wesley, _Princess Bride_ # ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:31:44 -0500 From: We Two <gebbie@e.......> Subject: Re: Dracpackers Unite! On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Jane Credland wrote: > announced that the Dracpackers are a faction from Dracula: The Series, and > that she's planning on bringing characters from that series into the war. > Umm... I admit that I've only been through one war, but I didn't think that > factions representing characters from another series were allowed. I'm not a listowner, just a semi-longtime listmember. The wars are for *FK characters only!* We don't have enough bandwidth to include non-FK factions, and many people just aren't interested in them. Plus, those are the rules, set by Jaye herself. The FK lists and activities are for FK stuff only. -Lady Delirium gebbie@e....... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:45:46 +0500 From: John Folden <jtfolden@e.......> Subject: Re: Opening Credit change > From: "Mary Davis" <Spirit3679@a.......> > >I noticed it with Black Buddha 1. It's not unusual for a series to redo the > opening of a show in post production. Here's the good news sometimes it can > be an indication that a new marketing plan is going into effect. Keep your > fingers crossed except of course when you are writing letters. What we're seeing in the opening credits of BB is the way it was originally, as well...If I recall correctly the opening sequence was changed during the 3rd seasons original run around the time of "Blind Faith". //---------------------------------------- // John T. Folden, a demented victorian // lost in the DARK SHADOWS of an endless // FOREVER KNIGHT... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:51:38 -0700 From: Bonnie F Rutledge <br1035@i.......> Subject: NB in "Back in Action" Hi folks! I spotted that this flick is on Cinemax tonight/this morning at 3:30am. TV Guide lists his name and describes: "Bullets and punches fly as a vigilante (Billy Blanks) and a cop (Roddy Piper) try to free their kidnapped girlfriends from a crime lord's grasp." I've been trying to picture "Rowdy" Roddy Piper and Nigel Bennett in a movie together, and I keep coming up with the image of Uncle in a kilt! Dare I hope NB plays the crime lord?(Love that grasp!<g>) Oh a YKYBWTMFK->I have pet albino mice I filched from my university lab who recently gave birth to a litter of 11 cubs (or appetizers, as Screed would say). When their white fur began growing in, I was somehow reminded of Uncle's 1st season hair...I named the boy mice I'm keeping Screed and Lucius (who went through the 'leaping stage', at one point leaping off my 2nd floor porch to land with nary a scratch.Hmmm.Could there be...Forever Mice?) ************************************************************************ Bonnie Rutledge br1035@i....... Letting mice have sex is what got Mendel into trouble... ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 23:00:45 -0400 From: Siona <siona@n.......> Subject: Re: CERK Shirts Update On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Lisa P. wrote: > The other big question is "What will the shirts look like?" They will look > exactly like the bumper sticker. Ok, I can see the next question > coming..."What does the bumper sticker look like?" A photo of the bumper Okay - now a photo of the shirt is available. It can be found at: http://members.aol.com/fff1/shirt.html Siona@n....... Dark Knightie! and proud member of the Unnamed Faction Watch Forever Knight - SciFi Channel Mon. at 8PM and Tue. 12AM EST. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:10:03 -0600 From: Crystal Guffey <guffeyc@t.......> Subject: All the fk sites are grrreeat! I just wanted to share with everyone that I have finally gotten a server that has graphics...so I have finally been able to look at all of the fabulous sites that you have created! I am amazed at the talent that is on here! Thank you for all of your time, effort and hard work! I appreciate it! Crystal, A Vaquera Guffeyc@t....... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:13:41 -0600 From: Crystal Guffey <guffeyc@t.......> Subject: Is Vickiann Adams out there?? Sorry to bother everyone, trying to find Vickiann. She hasn't answered my mail and it's not bouncing. Does anyone know anything about her? Thanks! Crystal, A Vaquera Guffeyc@t....... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 23:19:00 -0400 From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......> Subject: Re: Pegasus Publishing Address--Lots of FK Goodies! I like that "Lady of the Knight" one! ;) Lisa P. LadysAVamp ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:32:29 -0400 From: Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......> Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Jun 1996 to 6 Jun 1996 - Special issue On Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:15:21, TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......> wrote on the Subject: Poacher? What poacher? > In The Hunted, the flashback shows Nick hunting - and enjoying it - an older > man, chasing him through the woods, being rather gleeful when LaCroix > suggests they hunt for their meal that night. <snip> > Unless we're talking about some other episode entirely... No, We aren't. On Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:23:36, John Folden <jtfolden@e.......> wrote; > Yep, that's a good one...I'm dreaming now. > I can just see the front cover of the August issue: > A great pic of Nick, vamped out, with the caption "The Fans That Wouldn't Die". > hehehehe...I've truly lost it.... I feel a song coming on (with apologies to Sherri Lewis and Lambchop) ... We are the Fans That Wouldn't Die. To get FK back on we'll try. One day we started watching it Not knowing what it was, And now we'll keep on watching our Forever Knight because ... <repeat indefinitely> I REALLY watch too much YTV! Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc., P.Prog <ag775@f.......> Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:32:32 -0400 From: Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......> Subject: Re: Virtual Season I've seen a lot about the Virtual Season issue, and I think it is a good idea. However, in order to distinguish this from other Season 4 efforts, a few things would be required. 1. A virtual producer/director (this could be a committee) to decide which "script submissions" would be accepted as "virtual episodes." The VP/D would determine rules for submissions and episode formats, and be responsible editing, formatting, posting and archiving the episodes, as well as points 2-4 below. (In other words, TVPTB!) 2. A virtual "writers bible" to enhance continuity, and reduce YAFKI's. Unlike JP, I don't believe this would reduce creativity; in fact, working around the guidelines should actually stimulate it. 3. A virtual network; ie. an e-mail loop for interested subscribers who find the FKFIC-L traffic load a bit too heavy to follow. FKFIC-L would still carry the episodes, but this would allow folks with limited time or mail-box sizes to enjoy the "series". 4. A virtual sponsor who would supply "virtual commercials." To keep things from getting COMPLETELY crazy, there should be a limit of one commercial per act (better than you'd get on any RL TV station). The commercials could be either silly or serious, but should be vetted by the list PTB if they could relate to any REAL products, services, people or organizations (this is standing list policy anyway). Sounds like a lot of work for a little fanfic, doesn't it? That's just the point! A Virtual Season should be more that just fanfic; it's a full scale project meant to involve many people in the creative effort. If you think that it's just too complex to get many people interested, just remember the FK WARS! Now THERE was a project that should have been impossible, and yet I continue to be amazed at the high quality of the writing that was produced. And that was produced by SEVERAL competing committees! If THAT worked out so well, a Virtual Season should be a piece of cake (and a peaceful alternative to war). Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc., P.Prog <ag775@f.......> Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:36:51 -0400 From: Joy Davis <Rjoi@a.......> Subject: The Question!! Hey!! Tia talkin' Please, pretty please read and respond!!!! You can blame Mr. Happy for this!! And my mom for putting me on this list. Every week I will post a question. PLEASE give me good answers, I'm in Jr. HIgh and I work hard and don't have the time to read answers that simply say "no". Give me answers that are worth reading. Thanks. The Question: IF NICK COULD BE MORTAL, BUT HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE, WOULD HE COMMIT THIS SIN? ( I got the idea for this from 'Baby Baby'.) PLEASE write 'Tia' somewhere in the subject line, that way my nosy mom won't read it. So there mom!!!! My mail is my mail!! Tia Natpacker Nick/Natpacker Knightie Cousin of the Knight Cousin (it's an aquired taste) Merc (why limit yourself!?) and anything else you want to call me (except UF!!!!!!!!!!!) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:51:41 -0700 From: Denise Underwood <ithildin@m.......> Subject: Re: Cousin leadership announces I'm not sure what the protocol is on this, but I'd like to participate in the war as a Cousin. Thanks!! Denise ~The Cousinly Ravenette~ ~TEDT~ ~Killer Bunny of the Clan McGregor~ "That Rabbit has a viscous streak a mile wide!It's a killer!" Tim,Enchanter ithildin@m....... ** Ask me about Forever Knight chat every evening on IRC EFNet!! ** ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 01:02:38 -0400 From: esalmas <esalmas@g.......> Subject: Nigel Alert/Darkman Here's more info about Nigel's role in Darkman III. I got the synopsis from the press release. Other stars of note to fans are Jeff Fahey as Rooker (villian) and Roxann Biggs-Dawson. Dr. Peyton Westlake (Darkman), disguised as a drug-selling thug, interropts a major underworld transaction being processed by the ruthless Peter Rooker who is involved in all forms of illegal activities under the guise of legitimate business. But, his obsession is power. He wants control of an advanced steroid which will make his henchmen unstoppable, in turn making Rooker invincible. Enraged at Westlake's interference, Rooker and his lieutenant Nico (Nigel) escape. Now Rooker has an added obsession. He wants to control Darkman and discover the secret of his enormous strength. To this end, Rooker enlists the aid of his mistress Dr. Bridget Thorne (Darlanne Fluegel). Planting a sensor device in a piece of laboratory equipment which Westlake buys undercover, Bridget attacks her prey and seduces Westlake with the promise of contributing to his research. Grateful for her kindness, the tormented Westlake agrees to an experimental surgery (sound a lot like Nick, doesn't he?) which she claims will perfect the artificial skin formula he's seeking. Instead, Bridget implants a strong receiver in Wesllake's neck giving her control over him through a hight-voltage gun. In a devestating series of confinement and torture, Rooker and Bridget nearly manage to destroy Westlake, but using his superior intellect and strength he escapes. Knowing his only vial of experimental skin is locked in Rooker's home safe, Westlake desguises himself as Rooker and goes to his home. Westlake (as Rooker) is drwan into a family evening with Rooker's beautiful, emotionally battered wife (Dawson) and neglected daughter. He promises to attend the child's upcoming dance recital. Drawn by his promise to Jenny and attraction to Angela, his disguises himself again as Rooker to surprise them at the recital. His composure is nearly shattered when Angela tenderly holds his hand, rousing areas of Westlake's heart and emotions he thought forever dormant. (Sound A LOT like Nick.) In a confronation in a warehouse, Westlake destroys Nico (darn) and the hired thugs. Rooker kills Bridget. Angela and Jenny who were forced there by Nico are injured. Westlake overcomes Rooker by tossing him into the jaws of a giant shredder. Westlake retrieves the single vial of artifical skin and uses it to restore Jenny's burned face. Once again, he goes alone into the night. Suggested retail price is $34.98 and will be available on August 20 or 27. The literature gives me both dates. If I get a screener, I'll let you all know what I think of it. Running time 1:27. Eileen Salmas esalmas@g....... "The truth is out there. It's just not in my jurisdiction." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:06:35 -0700 From: Denise Underwood <ithildin@m.......> Subject: Apology for mispost Sorry all , I need a warning not to operate heavy equipment or post when dead tired.... sorry for the mis post :(( Denise The Idiot Cousin =========================================================================
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