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Logfile LOG9605D Part 9

May 24, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9605D" Part 9

	Rules & Bunnies
	Lacroix and Love Scenes  (5)
	FK Viewers Poll (revised)
	FK Merch Survey (resent)
	Nick&Nat Packers
	aol chats??
	Minor Affiliation Symbols
	A Plea (was: Re: Alternatives?)
	FORKNI-L Digest - 24 May 1996
	LK Party Quote List (minor spoilers)
	Unnamed Faction
	YKYBWTMFKW....  (4)
	Forever Knight Who?
	Light Cousins symbol
	Blooper Script Charities
	Unnamed, and Other, Factions  (2)
	A Rejected Top Ten
	Catherine Disher in Alfred Hitchcock

Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 15:02:35 -0400
From:         Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject:      Rules & Bunnies

Yikes, the Phoenix felt obliged to speak on-list!  Everyone had better
study those List Rules again.  Quote no more than 4 lines at a time, keep
your signature short, and avoid "me-too" posts.

And *please*, double-check your headers before mailing; spoilers on
FORKNI-L have become an epidemic that won't be tolerated any longer.

And don't forget:  BE NICE.  Be thoughtful of the feelings of others.  Now
is the time to pull together, not fall apart.  Put aside any crankiness
before logging on.  How did Jamie put it?  Be Excellent To Each Other.

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{{{{{Warm Bunnies}}}}}  Cheer up by seeing Nigel Bennett's lighter side
at the McGregor Page:

BTW, we now have six declared Bunnies.  Join now!  All you have to do is
put the affiliation name in your signature and buy a copy of "Peter
Rabbit" (so you can quote it at will, when the need arises). "Flopsy,
Mopsy, and Cottontail, who were good little bunnies, went down the lane to
gather blackberries."  Mmmm... blackberries...

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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 15:04:20 EDT
From:         Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>

Subject:Lacroix and Love Scenes
This was meant for the list, not just the individual.

 From: BODYBLDR--RALVM29                     Date and time    05/24/96 15:01:21
 To: SMTP2   --IINUS1

 But what accounts for the scenes when Nick isn't around--ie
 Lacroix in the Raven in AtA?  Objective viewer?  Granted, we see
 Lacroix emotionally through Nick's eyes, but we do see Lacroix
 when Nick is out of sight.
 The reason I mention this is that we never see Lacroix in the
 act of killing or mating.  Consequently, I feel it innocuates
 Lacroix--yes, we hear his chilling monologues and wonderful
 literary speech--but where is the harm?  Where is the evil besides
 in his sadistic pleasure at Nicholas' expense?
 I would like to see Lacroix "vamp out" beyond flashback scenes.
 The only time we see him kill recently is in Fever, and even then
 they cut the actual murder.
 It just seems such a waste to work so hard to create a character
 who is beautiful, charming, intelligent, intellectual, classy,
 eloquentAND evil and then not divulge his moments of wickedness.
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 12:16:19 PDT
From:         "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject:      FK Viewers Poll (revised)

Since I've gotten so many requests (from our newest list folks!) to
resend this survey, here it is.  I've removed 4th season references
to avoid confusion (4th season not likely).  We're more likely to
get a TV movie (w/your help), so please send in your survey!

FOREVER KNIGHT VIEWERS/VIEWING POLL                         5/24/96
===================================                         =======
Please take a moment to answer these questions. The more responses,
the more compelling our case becomes!  LURKERS, I'm counting on you
to participate, too!  International responses GREATLY welcomed!
Anyone willing/able to translate this survey into German & send to
German viewers, please do so & let me know!  In consideration of
high list traffic & striking while the iron is hot, please

a) send your response to me privately (lplummer@i.......)
b) send your response NOW (no jury duty after all!)

1)  On what (non-SciFi) TV station(s)/channels do you/did you view
    Forever Knight?  Please include:
      --station name & channel/frequency
      --city/state/country from which station originates
      --owner, company name, contact
      --station address & telephone number (if you can look it up)
      --what type of station (independent, network (which?),
        cable, etc.)

2)  On what day/time do/did you watch FK on these stations?
3)  Have you ever contacted your station about FK? Any other show?
4)  Do you know if the stations will continue to run FK?  How long?
5)  Do you know if the stations have email or a website?  If so,
    what are they?
6)  Is Cable TV service provided in your area?  Pls provide company
    name/address info, as above.
7)  Does your area Cable TV company provide SciFi Channel?
    When will it?
8)  Do you have cable service?
9)  Do you pick up FK via satellite?  Please provide info.

10)  In what city/state/country do you live & how far is it to the
     station/provider on which you view FK?
11)  How long have you been viewing Forever Knight (what season)?
12)  Do you currently swap tapes w/other viewers (indicates desire
     to see other seasons, etc.)?
13)  How old are you?  What gender?  What occupation (generally)?

NEW SHOW (i.e. movie, etc.) QUERIES:
14) Would you be satisfied for a new FK show/movie to have the same
    characters, but different actors portraying them?
15) If not, which first 5+ actors would you ABSOLUTELY have to have
    back for you to view/support the new season? (pls list in order,
    1=most 5=least)
16) Would you view/support a new FK (movie, etc) if same characters
    were set in another city?

THANKS! Please send this to me ASAP, either by email:
        Subject= FK TV Survey
or snail mail:
        11980-J Little Patuxent Pkwy, Columbia, MD 21044.

Please gather your station's info from the phone book, etc. if you
can.  This will greatly aid the compilation of data. I plan to have
this data compiled for inclusion on the FK homepage (web god/des(ses)
permitting) by July 1. Please copy this survey & hand it out to
your FK friends/newbies for them to reply, too.  I will keep adding
new survey inputs to the stats for all to see.

Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 12:25:13 PDT
From:         "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject:      FK Merch Survey (resent)

Resending/revising this survey too, due to volume of requests...Leslie

Forever Knight is VASTLY under promoted & not merchandise-"exploited"
in any means.  PTW (powers that were) didn't see this one, & it is
our RIGHT, RESPONSIBILIY, and OPPORTUNITY to indicate what we want
in the way of Forever Knight merchandise (for the 1st three seasons
& any FK shows/movies which come along).

FOREVER KNIGHT MERCHANDISE SURVEY                              5/19/96
=================================                              =======
Please take a moment to answer these questions.  WHEN FK reincarnates
into another movie, etc., the backer(s) will want to know there are
accompanying income resources (i.e. merchandising).  This is your
chance to indicate what you want & don't want!  LURKERS, pls come out
for this survey, too.  Please copy this survey & hand out to
non-Internet FK friends & to newbies!  As always, the more responses,
the more compelling an arguement to get what we want!

1)  Would you purchase the following? How much would you pay (US$)?
     -- coffee mug? (black w/FK logo? another design? another color?)
     -- comic books? (would they have to be in the FK "universe"?)
     -- novels? (would they have to be in the FK "universe"?)
     -- fanzines?
     -- filkbooks?
     -- original music books/sheets?
     -- The Raven/club stuff? (what?)
     -- more music by Fred? (FK only?  other Fred stuff?)
     -- trading cards w/characters photos & info
     -- technical books from the sets? scripts?
     -- FK fantasy art?  (what media?) (mail order?)
     -- FK t-shirts (what on it?  what colors?)
     -- FK halloween costuming? masks? (what? who?)
     -- posters?  (what shots? what groupings?)
     -- Ribena?
     -- FK vamp stuff? (what?)

2)  Would you want to see "action figures" or is that too juvenile? Is
    this too adult a market?  If you like the idea, pls specify what
    "attributes" you'd like your favorite to have (i.e. costume,
    color, hair(!!!), carrying what, etc.)?

3)  Do you know where you can get Ribena locally?  Pls indicate where
    & if you'd like to get it (retail or mail order).

4)  How about FK chocolate?
        -- what shape?
        -- what type of choclate? (milk, dark, semi, Belgian, etc.)
        -- would you pay extra for it to be a good quality chocolate?
        -- how much/pound would you pay (in US$)

5)  Would you buy different factions' FK chocolate?  If so, please
    indicate what flavor or filling would be most appropriate for
    each group (i.e. what filling for cousins, perkolators, etc.)
6)  Have you found Fred's CD in local music stores?  Have you asked
    for it by name?  What stores/what cities?  Will they get it
    for you?
7)  What else can we market?

8)  How old are you?  What gender?  What profession (general)?
9)  In what city/state/country do you live?
10) Do you belive in purchasing by way of credit cards?
11) Do you order items through the mail?  Internet?
12) Pls indicate name/alias/email preference for tabulation only.

Pls send responses to me off-list (in consideration of list
traffic levels) by either email:
        lplummer@i....... (subject: FK Merch Survey)
or snailmail:
        11980-J Little Patuxent Pkwy, Columbia, MD 21044 USA

I will compile all responses & see if website can/wants to
post analysis.  Hope to have compilations by July 1; then will
add new submissions to survey again, later.  Please contact me
off-list if you have any questions about this survey.
I am happy to answer.

Please RSVO soonest.  Thanks for your interest in Forever Knight!
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 12:29:51 PDT
From:         "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick&Nat Packers

queenbts@n....... (Melanie B.) wrote:
>I also no longer have access to any reruns locally, (AZ TCI doesn't
>carry SciFi, yet Houston's apparently does), and need to figure out
>what I'm gonna do now. Can you respond with some guidance?

I already responded about writing letters & ways to get
names/addresses for those letters.  Any other suggestions?

N&NPacker/Knightie... Wildly Romantic & Fiercely Optimistic
An FK Movie(s) sort of gal
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 15:56:33 +0000
From:         Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject:      Re: reference

On 24 May 96 at 12:54, Mad Hatter wrote:

> whatsa "lurker"?

On mailing lists and newsgroups, a lurker is someone who reads but
does not participate in discussion.  On most mailing lists, the vast
majority of subscribers lurk.


Katja Stokley
It is a good day to put slinkies on escalators
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 13:53:55 -0700
From:         Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject:      aol chats??

Hi all,
Will any of the cast or crew be doing any more aol chats?

Raissa Devereux
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 13:49:46 -0700
From:         Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject:      Minor Affiliation Symbols

(Someday I will get a working filter system and get off digest...)

After paging through reams of commentary on the Unnamed faction, I
thought I'd ruminate on possible symbols for my own sub-affiliations (no
pins necessary -- you can start breathing again, Susan <g>).

As the only Fleur-Booster (loyalist of Nick's sister Fleur, LC's true
love) I suppose I may unilaterally declare the symbol to be a white rose
-- LC would certainly concur.  And if we ever need a couples faction for
LC and Fleur, I think the symbol should be a rose entwined around a sword.

As the founder of the Light Cousins (those who wish LC to embrace his
human side and move toward redemption) I hesitantly suggest that the
inverted b/w cross that is the symbol of the Cousins could be un-inverted
as a symbol for the Light Cousins.  That, however, is treading on
dangerous ground.

Any suggestions?

******* Amy, Lady of the Knight  (akr@n.......) *******
Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved, Pax FK
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 16:34:10 -0500
From:         TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject:      Re: A Plea (was: Re: Alternatives?)

At 07:16 AM 5/24/96 -0700, you wrote:
>On Fri, 24 May 1996, TippiNB wrote:
>> The Immortal Beloveds are *not* about Nick and Janette having sex.

Then Cynthia wrote:

>Speak for yourself.  As far as these Immortal Beloveds are concerned, that
>faction is *all* about Nick and Janette having sex.  We're not talking
>about two humans falling madly and romantically in love.  We're talking
>about two vampires who ooze sex whenever they're together ... talking

Well that just proves my point entirely!  No couples faction is just about
one thing and one thing only.  You just said it yourself: they "ooze sex
whenever they're together".  That's not the same thing as having sex is it?
I mean, there are plenty of people out there in the world just having sex.
But with N and J the chemical attraction they feel for one other infuses
every aspect of their interaction. Their attraction is shown not just in ONE
way, but in many, even while, as you mentioned, "talking".

See?  We're not on opposite sides here! :)

Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"TV shows, like vampires, have a way of coming back from the dead."
"I'm not in denial.  I'm in a state of creative readjustment!"
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 16:52:27 -0500
From:         TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Lacroix and Love Scenes

>I'm curious.  Have we ever seen LaCroix kill an innocent female?  In
>Trophy Girl, he is preparing Giselle, but it is Nick that eventually
>kills her.

Well...  If we take Nick's POV as canon, then LC killed an innocent woman in
Cherry Blossoms -- the accupunturist.

>see him do it.  I think that for most people, if we saw him do it, it would
>be very hard to like LaCroix.

Nah, there's really not much of anything LC could do that would make me not
like him. ;)

>It's one thing to see Nick kill, when we
>know how guilty he is about it now; it would be something different entirely
>to see LaCroix do it, knowing that he feels that it's perfectly fine to
>do it.

Actually, when Nick kills, it makes me like him less.  Because I *know* it's
gonna make him even more guilt-ridden!

>In other words, not showing LaCroix killing innocent humans is an artistic
>device that helps make for an interesting, thought-provoking show.

Well I think it's also interesting because LC-as-seen-thru-Nick's POV is not
necessarily the *real* LC.  Our memories are subject to our feelings at the
time.  When we see LC through Janette's POV (AFWTD), he's a savior.  In
Nick's POV (especially in the first season), LC is pure evil.  In LC's own
POV, he's not exactly a nice guy, either -- in AMPH, he remembers that he
was a ruthless general who ordered his soldiers to rape women.  The real LC
is probably a mix of all three, and then some.

Recipe for LaCroix:

Take one Nick Knight's POV
Stir with Janette's POV
Add a dash of LC's POV
Simmer to a boil
And add curry powder to taste.

Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"TV shows, like vampires, have a way of coming back from the dead."
"I'm not in denial.  I'm in a state of creative readjustment!"
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 16:10:55 -0500
From:         Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Lacroix and Love Scenes

At 12:57 PM 5/24/96 -0500, Mad Hatter wrote:

>i always thought LC was just stoic; not necessarily *evil* per se,

Whatever.  It doesn't matter what you call it, my point is still the same.
Because we never see LaCroix kill innocent people for pleasure, we're able
to like LaCroix even if we believe he does kill for pleasure.

Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 17:46:12 -0600
From:         Sara Jubelirer <efery@i.......>
Subject:      Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 24 May 1996

I'm not one to lurk for very long, so I figured I'd just jump right in.
My name is Sara, but I go by Efery. :) I started watching FK about 3
months ago, when my friend Rachel forced me to watch Sons of Belial, and
I immediately became addicted.  She also showed me this list, and I've
been on for about a week and a half.  My favorite character is LaCroix
(I want to be a cousin ;).

I love the show and I want it to survive!  If there is anything I can
do, SOS-FK, more surveys (I already filled out the first one Leslie
posted and sent it to her), etc., etc. mail me *right away*!!!!  <g>

I don't know how often I'll post in the future because reading all the
digests takes a while.

Once again, being on this list is great...
Efery, Cousin in Training
"It's not that I'm afraid to die... I just don't want
to be there when it happens."  --Woody Allen
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 17:51:11 -0400
From:         Pat Witham <catspaw@m.......>
Subject:      LK Party Quote List (minor spoilers)

>This is a *late* quote list from Pat's LK party last Saturday. In
>attendance were Pat, Denise, Arion, Kira and Alora. We watched C&C, AMPH,
>BMV, DbtLotM, FtB and AtA before LK; and afterwards we watched Dracula.
>Some minor AtA and LK spoilers...
>Yet another psycho female; just add her to the list.
>Write that down on the quote list--we have to have something.
>That's more about Schanke than I *ever* wanted to know.
>My grandma had a car like that.
>Good thing Nick's a good vampire; otherwise she'd be snack food.
>--She should be anyway.
>That's like breaking into Willie Wonka's Chocolate Factory to steal a
>chocolate chip.
>They don't get anymore klewless than that boy.
>My evil twin.
>--You have a twin?
>She has angst.
><Pointing at cows on TV> Oh look! Nick food!
>You, and as they say, whose army?
>I think I'll take the non-fatal.
>Continuity error!
>--Oh, now there's a big surprise!
>What's with the "Temple of Doom"?
>--It's the Arc of the Covenat!--oops, wrong movie.
>The ultimate closure: Let Reese get some water out of the cooler.
>Why'd he check the beer fridge?
>--Maybe he wanted one.
>Now *we're* having flashbacks.
>Somebody's been shopping at Immortal Clothiers.
>I wonder if they have blood-flavoured General Foods International Coffees.
>Her impending corporial disem-- something or other.
>What are we going to watch?
>--"Feeding the Best"
>--"Feeding the Best"?
>--Oh, I'm getting stupid again.
>Woah! The out of control vampire cam!
>You can take the boy out of the 13th Century, but you can't take the 13th
>Century out of the boy.
>Peter Pan of the Vampire World.
>--Does that make Nat Tinkerbell?
>--Will she survive if we clap real hard?
>--"We Believe! We believe!"
>Nat and Janette can start a support group: Female vampires who are pissed
>at Nick.
>A vampire from Sprockets.
>A karate chopping vampire.
>Alora...she of bad e-mail karma <alora@a.......>
>SKL: Faciemus ut Dewus Mountainus e Tuo Nasone Exeat (go on, ask!)
>Natpacker * Founding Memeber: CSS * Original Saturday Knight Offender
Knightie, CSS and D.O.B.
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 17:58:18 EDT
From:         Michael J Park <73773.3032@c.......>
Subject:      Unnamed Faction

I personally like LaCroix Knights or Cousins of the Knight.  I think they both
are pretty good.

Debbie Park
Unnamed / Dark Knightie / Cousin
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 15:41:33 -0700
From:         Bonnie F Rutledge <br1035@i.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBWTMFKW....

You wrote:
>Now I know, I have officially lost it. I dreamed about LaCroix last night.
>Oh, sure, as a Knightie the was obligatory Nick, but it was LaCroix that made
>the dream interesting. The best way to describe it is Conan the Barbarian
>meets FK. Imagine Uncle, in the Conan-type armor on horseback. One
>word---scary. Brrrrr. Sorry cousins. :)
>I've got to stop eating calzone before I go to bed...
>Carrie, Slovenly Knightie AKA Carrie the Cruel
>It's hard to judge someone when you're blinded by your love for them.
>--Mother Teresa

Oh my god! Would you believe I've had that dream too? (Of course I'm
not a Knightie so it was fine with me). There was some kind of
Anglo-Saxon war thing going on...So what's the best/wierdest dream with
FK people in it that you folks out there have had? My wierdest was one
where GWD was selling me new carpet <g>...

P.S. Make that non-Adult dream , even though those are the best<g>

Bon Rutledge   br1035@i.......

" Microbiologists make better streakers"
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 15:44:12 -0700
From:         Amy R. <akr@n.......>
Subject:      Re: LaCroix and Love Scenes

I suppose you can chalk it up to pure Fleur-Boosterism if you like, but,
frankly, I have always maintained that LC has been pretty-much faithful to
the memory of Fleur, lo these eight centuries.

He's the one with the meaningful email alias, after all (TG); the dead
rose he held at Nick's wedding certainly struck me as symbolic on many
levels (DoN).  And... oh, wait: that's still spoiler protected, isn't it?
Darn.  :) The point is, the man's still carrying a torch.

But as I make a huge distinction between the love he had for Fleur and
the basic neck-of-the-week feeding (Lisette, in TG), I also concur with
the idea that leaving the specifics of LC's evil largely up to our
imaginations is a wise artistic decision.  Of course, it's ended up
leaving us with multiple, irreconcilable interpretations of LC, but the
show is the richer for it.

I'm still on digest, but I have had it pointed out to me in private email
that many people have no idea who Fleur is.  If there is a need, I can
make up a Fleur FAQ, and transcribe the good bits of BMV.  Contact me
privately if you're interested.

**** Amy, Lady of the Knight  (akr@n.......) ****
Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 16:41:08 -0600
From:         Raven <ab950@s.......>
Subject:      Re: Forever Knight Who?

It's a classic case of bad promotion.  And I don't think I'm the only one
who feels as if TPTB purposely underpromoted the show so that it would
fail and they wouldn't have to go through the hasslle of cancelling a
popular show...

However..  My local station, CFQC TV, has done a wonderful job of it.
It's on 9:00 PM, Mondays.  A lot better time slot than 11:30 PM
Saturdays. =)  And they've acctually done a fair bit of promoting...
Which is why I see quite a few people in my area who watch it...  When I
mention that this was the last season, they are usually like "What?  How
could they cancel it, it's a wonderful show!!!"... Then again, we might
NEVER get Last Knight, seeing as they've just been repeating the first
half of the 3rd season over and over and over. =)  But just think, if we
could have harnessed all the energy of all those fans who never knew
there were other Forever Knight fans, all those fans who could have
fought for Forever Knight, if they'd just known it was going to be gone...

--Remembering fondly back to the days when he first saw the commericals
for the upcomming Forever Knight... With just a black screen with white
letters on, and 'coming on blah blah', he thought it was a corney
time-travelling show... But He was pleasantly suprised... Then, when Star
Trek: TNG got cancelled and Babylon 5 came on, it was Television heavan
for a little while...Friday nights, first B5, then Forever Knight, the
only two shows worth watching... =)

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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 19:10:24 EDT
From:         Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject:      Light Cousins symbol

Ahm, I suppose this is presumptious from an ordinary cousin, but may I
suggest a literally light cross, white on a dark background, rather than
a reversed cross?

Unfortunately, reversed crosses tend to be associated with tabloid
occult and phony Satanism scares. May I also add that I'm well aware of
the difference between tabloid alleged-Satanism and the real kind? But
the kind of mundane who might freak at the sight of a reversed cross won't

Another possibility might be what a herald would call a cross in the sun,
the present symbol, but with rays behind it.

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 16:33:43 -0700
From:         Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBWTMFKW....

> Anglo-Saxon war thing going on...So what's the best/wierdest dream with
> FK people in it that you folks out there have had? *SNIP*
> P.S. Make that non-Adult dream , even though those are the best<g>

NonAdult dream about FK....who would ever have those? not *me* *BIG GRIN*
Not that there are any number of people to have dreams about...but oh ya
my best dream... or the one I thaught was the funniest.

Reese came over and told me he had a new and improved water cooler to
replace mine. So I let him take mine away and put in the "new & improved"
one but when ever I went to use the new one it wouldn't work. :) Gosh I
wonder why...

Love,                         \|/
Wendy Marie                  |o o|
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 16:35:55 -0700
From:         Angie <alasher@e.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBWTMFKW....

>Oh my god! Would you believe I've had that dream too? (Of course I'm
>not a Knightie so it was fine with me). There was some kind of
>Anglo-Saxon war thing going on...

That is just way to darn wierd! I have had that dream also!!! I was lying on
the ground, and he kept looking at me, all I could think was *Oh oh, I'm
toast now!*

        ~~Unnamed Faction * Unknown Faction~~
        ~~~~~~~Under a lot of stress~~~~~~~~~
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 19:53:32 -0400
From:         Carrie Krumtum <CKrumtum@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Lacroix and Love Scenes

>Yes, he did fall in love with Fleur.  But that's it.  How many
>women has Nick had?

The scene that leaps to mind is from Trophy Girl. LaCroix is ripening a nice
young thing for the taking and expounding upon the advantages of doing so to
Nick. This suggests to me that he had been in the practice of 'getting some'
regularly and liked the ritual of preparation as much as the 'deed'.

Of course, it just wouldn't be our Nick if he didn't try to 'save' the girl
and end up taking her himself. Yes, I'm a Knightie, but I never said he was
perfect. I kind of like him with all his flaws. <g>

Carrie, Slovenly Knightie AKA Carrie the Cruel
It's hard to judge someone when you're blinded by your love for them.
--Mother Teresa
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 20:06:53 -0400
From:         Lisa Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject:      Blooper Script Charities

Hey, Hey All :)

I just got final confirmation on the charities for the FORKNI-L
Charity Drive/Blooper Script thingie.

Again, the three charities that can be donated to are:
        1)  Pediatric AIDS Foundation;
        2)  Casey House; or
        3)  Children's Hospital Foundation

Remember, a check for $5.00 to any one of these three charities
gets you a copy of the blooper script for Last Knight.  Scripts
will be ready to mail in about a week and a half.

Send your check made out to the charity of your choice along with
either 5 U.S. stamps or a check for $1.50 made out to Lisa Prince
        Lisa Prince
        000 Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx, Xxxxx 000
        Xxxxxxx, XX  00000-0000.

ObFK:  Concerning the conversation about LaCroix -- Personally,
since we have not been shown him feeding for pleasure in the
present, I don't really think he does.  In truth, he has always
struck me as one of those "all talk and no action" types.  While he
might talk a good game where mortals are concerned, I believe that
he holds them in much higher regard then he would ever actually
admit.  :)  Rip away ;)

The Forgotten L -- Third over to the right -- Deserter of the Ls
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 20:16:58 -0400
From:         "Julie A. Stafford" <KnightGal@a.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBWTMFKW....

Would you believe I had a dream where LaCroix was participating in a Bible
study????  I'm not kidding!!!!

Cousin till the end...(and beyond?), N&NPacker (with occasional ventures into
Valentine-ism), Vaquera, Toreador and Methos admirer
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 21:02:52 -0400
From:         Becky Thomson <b.thomson5@g.......>
Subject:      Unnamed, and Other, Factions

I just subscribed to this list a few days ago, so this is the first mail
I've sent to the list. This is also the first such list I've ever been a
member of, although I have been on a couple much smaller e-mail loops. And
I've been watching Forever Knight ever since the first season was first
being aired on CBS Crime-Time-After-Prime-Time.

From what little I've seen, it's already obvious to me that I belong in the
UF <bg>. I there a way I can get an invitation to join Tippi's mini-list?

Also, is there a separate gathering place/faction/list/whatever for fans of
my other two favorite FK characters, Janette and Vachon? (Not together,
independently.  Wellll, together wouldn't be so bad, either, but that's not
what I originally had in mind!)

Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 17:31:44 -0800
From:         Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject:      Re: A Rejected Top Ten

Only if I can play twister with Nick.
Blushing at the thought,
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 18:47:05 -0700
From:         Abby <albrecht@s.......>
Subject:      yk(someone's)bwtmfk

when the box your mom's new alarm clock came in makes you giggle for
hours. The picture of the gizmo had the clock set to 12:28. :)

Oh, it was made by Magnavox...

abby -- Mercenary of the Knight
albrecht@c.......   Down the hall  lThe first Merc Knightie
eponymous2@a.......       Turn right!    lDDEB3, Duchovniks, NLEB, and more
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 18:54:16 -0700
From:         Angie <alasher@e.......>
Subject:      Re: Unnamed, and Other, Factions

>>From what little I've seen, it's already obvious to me that I belong in the
>UF <bg>. I there a way I can get an invitation to join Tippi's mini-list?

Just email Tippi and she'll put you on the overall list and send out a
notice to everyone in the loop that you have joined! Welcome to the loop!

>Also, is there a separate gathering place/faction/list/whatever for fans of
>my other two favorite FK characters, Janette and Vachon? (Not together,

There are the Ravenettes for Janette, and the Vaquero's for Javiar, people
will see you want in and sent you information I am sure! Welcome to the list!
        ~~Unnamed Faction * Unknown Faction~~
        ~~~~~~~Under a lot of stress~~~~~~~~~
Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 17:55:24 -0800
From:         Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Catherine Disher in Alfred Hitchcock

The later Hickcok Presents were done in the '80s--CD could have been in
her 20s.  did you see this on the Scifi Channel?

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