FORKNI-L
Digest - 14 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Thu, 14 Mar 1996
There are 39 messages totalling 1044 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Natalie's scent
2. The Raven Location
3. Playgirl article
4. Why do you like Janette?
5. YKYB...
6. Faction Groups
7. FK Bumper stickers (2)
8. kansas ....
9. FK mouse pad
10. Crane Project
11. Closed Captioning
12. Faction Names
13. Episodes that we will never see (but would love to)
14. Tracy and Vachon?
15. Being brought over -- Carouches explained! (2)
16. flower power
17. FK website wins award (3)
18. FORKNI-L Digest - 13 Mar 1996 to 14 Mar 1996 - Special issue
19. Vamps in Spaaaaaace! and fic question
20. Flower Power
21. FK on Sci-Fi channel info via Prodigy as of 3/14/1996
22. More Filk Anyone? :)
23. <No subject given>
24. USA AOL posting forwarded here earlier. (2)
25. FK SCHEDULE UPDATE
26. Vamps, Sun, Soullessness... (2)
27. FK on SciFi...
28. FK website award Kudos
29. Another faction quip ...
30. Predator teeth
31. Tracy and Vachon
32. greetings one and all
33. SOSFK: USA is just trying to make itself look good...
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:29:03 -0500
From: Pat Witham <catspaw@m.......>
Subject: Natalie's scent
I think the FK fiction story Visit from Vachon came up
with an appropriate smell for Natalie. The author wrote
that Nick thinks she smells the way his mother's herb
garden used to.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:41:21 -0800
From: Cousin Cherri <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: The Raven Location
>Yes we are going to "Sanctuary: Vampire Sex Bar"...with a name like that,
>how could we *not* go?
I AM SOOOOOOO Jealous!!!!!
Thanks but the way, but other kind souls have already informed me.
Cousin Cherri Valentine, Sime/Gen, FKLFE
<cdmunoz@e.......> NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
Save FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:49:05 -0500
From: Pat Witham <catspaw@m.......>
Subject: Playgirl article
A posting in the Usenet group mentioned that GWD was
interviewed in the November issue of Playgirl. Does
anyone have any information about this?
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:08:34 -0500
From: Chanda Keith <ckeith@u.......>
Subject: Why do you like Janette?
I was wondering if a few people would care to write me with some of the
reasons that they like Janette. I would like to have something like that
to put on my Janette webpage.
Chanda Keith Ravenette and Immortal Beloved
ckeith@u....... or cwkeith@c.......
"Forever Knight has been cancelled. If you want to help efforts to reverse
this decision, visit the official Save FK Webpage!" at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:02:21 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: YKYB...
You know you've been watching too much Forever Knight and Animaniacs when...
You're reading the wrapper on a pack of Bubblicious, and when you get the
the part about the Warner-Lambert Corp., all you can think of is three Evil
Puppy Children and Our Favorite Coroner.
The scary thing is, the color of the gum is a sort of
cartooney-rotting-corpse shade of blue...
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric
Association. The body count was high, the casualties are heavy.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:09:34 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Faction Groups
A Sword of Cousins.
A Hamper of Knighties.
A Cave of Ursines.
A Morgue of NatPackers.
A Blink of Vaqueras/ros.
A Smorgasboard of FoDs.
A Poe of Ravenettes.
A 'Feine of Perkulators.
A Cacao of Valentines.
A Litter Box of FoSiLs.
A Battery of Die-Hards.
An Asylum of "Susan" Phoenixes :) .
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric
Association. The body count was high, the casualties are heavy.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:14:59 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK Bumper stickers
>4- Nick Knight
> Take A Bite Out Of Crime
> Forever
I got this one at ThunderCon (Oklahoma City) last May (my parents hate it,
but it's on MY CAR! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahaha...haha...aaaaaaah). I'm
going again a couple of months (May 31, June 1&2), and if the dealer I got
it from is back, I'll check for some more.
As I recall, they had some FK buttons, too. And a SPECTACULAR portrait of
Uncle in the art room (aptly titled "Father Figure").
I'll shut up now.
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric
Association. The body count was high, the casualties are heavy.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:25:20 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: kansas ....
>hopefully we all remember what happened with an earlier role playing game?
>it sounds to me like this is gonna be another d&d, but in the form of
>vampires. hopefully it won't get nearly so bad.
It will where I'm at. D&D still has a reputation of evil in Oklahoma, and I
suspect some of the surrounding area. The Incident will be filed into the
same group as a "Gothic" murder a few months ago (two poser-Goths thought it
would be "Gothic" to try and kill two people in cold blood. Ever since,
vamps and such have been more taboo than before).
To be honest, at least some of us need to try to start some sort of campaign
to prove that vamps are not as evil as the general public believes, or this
could get way too out-of-hand. Yes, I'm a bit paranoid, but I've grown up
with an interest in vampyres and the like, and in the Bible Belt that sort
of thing is grounds for hatred (I've heard of radical Satanic groups, ie
virgin sacrifice and baby killing, being called "vampyres" in this area).
I've even had to put up with a bit of physical abuse for my interests. As
soon as the wrong people get a hold of this, it's going to snowball. I've
seen it before, and this is the type of thing that will cause it to happen
again.
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric
Association. The body count was high, the casualties are heavy.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:13:46 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Bumper stickers
Please tell us if there is a catalog--I am sure many on thelist would be
interested in bumper stickers. You did not happen to see a bummper
sticker that said "warning Tristar exec not at the wheel"? Sorry,
couldn't help myself--honey and wine.
Barbara
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:28:50 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK mouse pad
>They also do placemats...
I suddenly have the image of my nice, normal family sitting down to eat...
and realizing that Uncle is tearing someone's neck out on the table.
Oiy, that would be worth a grounding!
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric
Association. The body count was high, the casualties are heavy.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:34:28 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: Crane Project
>Now that I have my cranes folded, I need to know where to send them.
If you're on the east of the Mississippi, contact Viper. On the west, try
Bonnie (Bonnela Pardoe, I hope I spelled that right). Just e-mail them, and
they'll set you up.
bonnie@o....... (Bonnie)
75052.2262@c....... (Viper)
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric
Association. The body count was high, the casualties are heavy.
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 03:46:49 -0500
From: Cal <calm@a.......>
Subject: Re: Closed Captioning
On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, Maria Montalvo wrote:
> From what I've seen, making the captions
> visible is a function of the TV set, not the VCR. So to tape with the
> captions visible, you'd need an output jack from the TV set, and I'm
> pretty sure that TV sets just don't have that kind of output jack.
If you're right, it should be possible on at least some sets. I once had
a roommate who kept insisting on rewiring the cable so that it went into
the cable box, then into the TV, then into the VCR. So if you changed
the channel on the TV, that would change the channel on the tape. It was
a very frustrating year.
Then, too, if you have a decoder *box* (which you need for earlier sets)
you ought to be able to put the box into the feed before the VCR.
Cal, who hasn't been able to afford captioning yet but who turns it on
whenever she is visiting people who have it
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:17:47 -0800
From: Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Faction Names
>Terry wrote:
>>How about an arrogance of Cousins?
Maryan added:
>How about A Box(of Q-tips) O' Cousins?(heh,heh,heh)
Perhaps a Swab of Cousins would be more fitting. <smug>
Bonnela (bonnie@o.......)
Tracy: "Why do you do that?"
Vachon: "Cause I can!"
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:03:00 EST
From: Maryann Jorgensen <majorge@i.......>
Subject: Re: Episodes that we will never see (but would love to)
>How about Nick, still living on into the future, where a murder case
>brings him to Bablyon 5, where he not only runs into Geribaldi, Marcus
>and some pesky telepaths, but comes face to face with Koch...
>He could fall in "love" with Ivaniva, and enlist the doctors help in
>searching for a "cure".
That could in turn spawn a new series: Vamps in Space. Cause Ivoniva would
likely kick his butt out an airlock. She's got enough angst of her own. He
would probably do better with Marcus. At least I know of some people that
think that way.;-}
Maryann - the Knightie with a Nattitude majorge@i.......
* Knightie, Natpacker , N&Ner, Dark Nattie, Paris-ite, Janewayan *
********************************************************************************
And I have a life ... really ... it involves blond gorgeous men and art pencils.
"Today's topic: How to keep your nostrils happy" - The Doctor - Voyager
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:40:33 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy and Vachon?
"I say we should call them Apaches, in honor of said Apache's ***fabulous***
Tracy/Vachon fan-fic. "
I heartily agree!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:56:19 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Being brought over -- Carouches explained!
On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, Tippi Blevins wrote:
> Oops, I might have meant the one that bit Perry. I'm getting my vampire dogs
> mixed up. Didn't we see one or the other of them, at least for a second?
> Kind of a feral looking guy? Am I imagining it?
I don't know if *you're* imagining it, but I didn't see anyone except the
hands that reached up out of the earth to grab Perry.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:04:33 -0500
From: Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......>
Subject: flower power
Hey guys~ I'm de lurking again :)
<<We saw in first season that Janette both smokes and drinks. I wonder if
<<Nick ever experimented with marijuana, hashish, or opium in the Sixties
Can you picture Nick on acid? Or worse, Uncle?!?!? I can see it now.
Nick: The SUN!!! No! Get it OFF of me!!! AAAGGHHHH!
Talk about a BAD trip! Seriously though, do drugs affect vamps? What if
they feed on someone who has drugs in their blood stream? Does alcohol
affect them? Can a vamp get drunk? stoned? Just curious.
I think Nick and LC probably would have had a lot of fun in the 60's & 70's.
Uncle especially being that he's a major hedonist and the 60's(late) was a
free for all.
Anyone interested in "LC/Uncle/Nightcrawler For Pres" bumperstickers??? We
should make some 'cause I sure do hate our choices this year and I am
rebelling. I will write Uncle in on my ballot if I must!!
<< It would be nice if people could get mouse pads with their>>
<<favorite FK character. They also do placemats...>>
Placemats! Kewl! I've always wanted to have Uncle on my kitchen table!
<VWEG>
Do they make table cloths? <JADFE images running through my warped little
brain>
Well, I guess I'll be seeing some of you at Zillah's party Sat! Cant wait!
P.S. Becky Burns told me to relay the message that she's having major "List"
withdrawal, she misses everyone, and will be online soon she hopes!
Cousin Michelle
"He who dies with the most prizes....still dies" -The Nightcrawler
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:07:57 -0500
From: "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: FK website wins award
Greetings friends, fans, and cast!
I am proud to tell you all that the unofficial Forever Knight
web page that I (created and) maintain has received the following
award. I wanted to share with all of you:
----- Begin Included Message -----
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:48:10 -0800
From: review@m....... (McKinley Review)
Subject: Your site awarded 3 stars by Magellan
Forever Knight
http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html
Your Internet site has been reviewed and rated by The McKinley Group's
professional editorial team. We are delighted to designate your resource
as a "3-Star" site. Our sincerest congratulations! This rating is a
special mark of achievement in Magellan, McKinley's comprehensive Internet
directory of nearly 2 million sites and 40,000 reviews. As a Magellan
3-Star site, you are being awarded a special logo to recognize the hard
work that has gone into establishing and maintaining your site.
The McKinley Group was founded in 1993 by a team of international
publishers, technologists and information specialists. We are committed to
delivering the best navigational and informational directory for the
Internet. Our reviews of WWW, FTP, and gopher sites, as well as mailing
lists and Usenet newsgroups have appeared in print and online form, as well
as CD-ROM. In addition, these site reviews will be republished as part of
licensing agreements with Time Warner's Pathfinder, AT&T, The Microsoft
Network, IBM, Europe Online, NYNEX, and other information providers. Your
site has excelled in our rigorous review process, in which we consider
three primary factors: depth of content, ease of exploration, and Net
appeal.
[NOTE: Info about dowloading the cool logo was deleted]
Congratulations again on your 3-Star award! We wish you continued success
in all of your online endeavors.
Sincerely,
The McKinley Group, Inc.
http://www.mckinley.com
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Thanks to ALL of you guys. Without you all it wouldn't have been
worth my time to put the information in one place. You guys
have visited the site so many times I'm astounded. And now I'm
positive that it wasn't just a labour of love.
Thanks again,
Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette, gjwalli@m.......
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:11:33 +0200
From: Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 13 Mar 1996 to 14 Mar 1996 - Special issue
I got a few fk bumper stickers in houston, proudly put them on my back
bumper, and as I came home, and stoped for gas
SOMEONE STOLE MY BUMPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you heard that right, apparely, dodge shadow bumpers can be popped on and
off, and it only take a couple of seconds to do it. the police where I
stopped for gas, told me it happens all the time, but they will keep a
look out for a bumber with vampires: preserve an indangered species, and
nick knight: take a bite out of crime. also had a sticker about fk and
the internet
does anyone know where I can get these stickers replaced.
(getting a new bumber won't be that hard, but the stickers will be!)
Katrinka
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:18:23 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Vamps in Spaaaaaace! and fic question
Okay, well, I didn't do a B5 x-over, but I am working on a future story for
FK. I mean, hey everyone gets to live on a space station with no sunlight...
Sounds like fun to me! ;)
Fic question: Has anyone done fairy tale spoofs? I'm thinking of Cinderella
(hey, Nick burns to cinders in the sun, right?) with glass contact lenses
instead of glass slippers... Has it been done? Should I admit myself to the
looney bin now and save myself the time?
WCT
TippiNB@a.......
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:33:12 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK website wins award
Congratulations! It is a *wonderful* resource.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:47:23 -0600
From: tim jones <tl@i.......>
Subject: Flower Power
Do vampires suffer effects from alcohol or any other drugs etc. In a
episode from last season, "The Code" I believe, In the flasback A bounty
hunter gives Nick a bottle of whatever, laced with Curari(sp?) It does leave
him somewhat intoxicated.
Kelly
Desperately Seeking my own Computer/E-mail
address!!http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
tl@i.......
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:47:45 -0600
From: michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......>
Subject: FK on Sci-Fi channel info via Prodigy as of 3/14/1996
I'm passing this information on to you:
SF/fantasy/cult TV Schedule
Compiled by Lee Whiteside (leew@i.......),
revised/updated by Jay Badenhoop Last updated: March 14, 1996
The following statement was posted on the USA bulletin board on
Prodigy: "The Sci-Fi channel is pleased to announce that
effective Monday, April 22, Forever Knight will be airing on the
Sci-Fi channel. It will be on Monday nights at 8pm and repeated
at 12am. The Sci-Fi channel will air episodes from season three."
Latest information states that (1) these episodes will initially
still be just the 13 already purchased by USA, but the remaining
9 episodes may be added in the fall, after they have aired in
syndication; and (2) the copies of 1st season episodes will be
the 38-minute ones aired on CBS Latenight, not the 46-48 minute
copies aired in Canada.
michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n.......
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:48:04 EST
From: MS SHIRLEY A CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>
Subject: More Filk Anyone? :)
Disclaimer: This post contains no actual filk. :)
I was talking to Laurie Firth and she said:
<<now you got that 'it's a small world...' jingle in my head! what
about a FK related filk with *that* tune-Egad-can you imagine the
responses...man oh man! sounds like something a Cousin would do <EG>>>
I replied:
<<Are you suggesting I should attempt to corrupt more innocents with
filk ideas? <raises eyebrow> ;)= I kept expecting someone to do the
MST3K theme >>
LF again:
<<yeah, i was trying to plant the suggestion in your cousinly ear 8-)>>
Now, I will not even *try* to write these, but perhaps someone
else would like to. I know the s.o.p. for challenges is to start it off
with your own response, but this isn't a challenge. It's
an...um...*suggestion*. (Yeah, that's the ticket! <G>)
So go for it! Or not. :) But half the blame goes to to Laurie
(Firth, that is). ;)
Cousin Shirl <vuyx56a@p.......> A-Negative FoFoD
//"Lost in the darkness of a land, where all the hope that's offered is,
memories of being taken by the hand, and we are led into the sun"--
"Lost" by Sarah McLachlan//
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:49:54 +0100
From: "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
> > How about A Box(of Q-tips) O' Cousins?(heh,heh,heh)
<smolder>
I guess that would make the Cousins who do not acknowledge LaCroix's
leadership Box Lunch.
<but truly, I'm not amused.>
<really.>
<we have connections, you know.>
Cousin Jean <jkennedy@t.......>
"Would that she were a less annoying woman." - LaCroix
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:06:54 -0500
From: David Friedman <dgf@u.......>
Subject: Re: USA AOL posting forwarded here earlier.
I was reading mail from last night and came across a post
about USA. It was a forward from the USA forum on AOL(?)
for Forever Knight Season 3 (those purchased so far by USA)
being shown in the SCI-FI channel.
Now, I'm not being pessimistic by choice, as I am a normally
optimistic person, BUT... Except for home-made movie specials,
I never recall having seen a presently filming series (or its
reruns) on the SCI-FI Channel. Does that mean FK is dead?
WAIT!
This means the SCI-FI channel is coming into the mainstream
with science fiction..... Maybe they want to adopt Forever
Knight as it's first debuting active show (non-cancelled/reruns).
That might explain negotiation problems with the USA networks
as well as some of the hush hush and doubt with the marketing
of the series. OR it means that the SCI-FI channel is getting
enough money/power/etc. to get newer science fiction shows...
And EVENTUALLY to make their own series (maybe even bring BACK
forever knight if it, heaven forbid, gets cancelled (except for
tv movie specials anyway)).
Imagine the logo/commercial: (closeup on GWD's face (red eyes and
large fangs) "Take a bite out of SCI-FI, with Forever KNIGHT! ...
Weeknights at 9pm EST"
Any comments, further optimism or further pessimism?
-David Friedman (dgf@u.......)
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 11:45:29 -0330
From: Paula Hurley <phurley@b.......>
Subject: FK SCHEDULE UPDATE
Here is the latest update on the FK schedule for anybody who wanted to
know, plus an extra blurb about the Sci-Fi Channel showing FK, which I
know somebody already posted.
Paula
Dark Knightie/
Light Cousin/
Valentine/
Nick&NatPacker/
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3) The following statement was posted on the USA bulletin board on
Prodigy: "The Sci-Fi channel is pleased to announce that
effective Monday, April 22, Forever Knight will be airing on the
Sci-Fi channel. It will be on Monday nights at 8pm and repeated
at 12am. The Sci-Fi channel will air episodes from season three."
Latest information states that (1) these episodes will initially
still be just the 13 already purchased by USA, but the remaining
9 episodes may be added in the fall, after they have aired in
syndication; and (2) the copies of 1st season episodes will be
the 38-minute ones aired on CBS Latenight, not the 46-48 minute
copies aired in Canada.
Forever Knight (Syndicated)
Ep.# Week of Prod # Title
------------------------------------------
C15 2/05/96 315 Games Vampires Play
C16 2/12/96 316 Human Factor
C17 2/19/96 317 Avenging Angel
C18 2/26/96 318 Fallen Idol
C8 3/04/95 308R My Trophy Girl (rpt)
C9 3/11/95 309R Let No Man Tear Assunder (rpt)
C10 3/18/95 310R Night in Question (rpt)
C11 3/25/95 311R Sons of Belial (rpt)
tentative:
C12 4/01/96 312R Strings (rpt)
C13 4/08/96 313R Fever (rpt)
C14 4/15/96 314R Dead of Night (rpt)
C15 4/22/96 315R Games Vampires Play (rpt)
C16 4/29/96 316R Human Factor (rpt)
C19 5/06/96 319 Jane Doe
C20 5/20/96 320 Ashes to Ashes [Divia/LaCroix]
C21 5/13/96 321 Francesca [dir. Nigel Bennett]
C22 5/27/96 322 Last Knight [dir. Geraint Wyn Davies]
C17 6/03/96 317R Avenging Angel (rpt)
C18 6/10/96 318R Fallen Idol (rpt)
C19 6/17/96 319R Jane Doe (rpt)
C20 6/24/96 320R Ashes to Ashes (rpt)
C21 7/01/96 321R Francesca (rpt)
C22 7/08/96 322R Last Knight (rpt)
C1 7/15/96 301RR Black Buddha pt.1 (rpt)
C2 7/22/96 302RR Black Buddha pt.2 (rpt)
C3 7/29/96 303RR Outside the Lines (rpt)
C4 08/05/96 304RR Blackwing (rpt)
C5 08/12/96 305RR Blind Faith (rpt)
C6 08/19/96 306RR My Boyfriend is a Vampire (rpt)
C7 08/26/96 307RR Hearts of Darkness (rpt)
[series ends in syndication]
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Forever Knight (USA Netowrk)
Tuesdays at 9 pm ET rpt Thursday night 1 am (Friday morning)
Ep.# Week of Prod # Title Rpt date(s)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tuesday night airing also dropped; repeats Thursday night 1 am only 2/
2/
C10 2/15/96 310R Night in Question (rpt)
C8 2/22/96 308R My Trophy Girl (rpt)
C11 2/29/96 311R Sons of Belial (rpt)
C5 3/07/96 305R Blind Faith (rpt)
C12 3/14/96 312R Strings (rpt)
C13 3/21/96 313R Fever (rpt)
[moves to the Sci-Fi Channel]
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:36:46 -0500
From: Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: Vamps, Sun, Soullessness...
Just my two cents worth...
In ND, Nick is confronted with the true state of his soul. This, at first,
confused me, since I was under the impression that vampires forfeited their
souls when brought across (Janette: "Poor Nicola, troubled by a soul he
hasn't got.") The argument could be made that Nick's ND experience was just
that, experiential. Situational ethics would then apply. In his mind, his
choice of vampirism has twisted and darkened his soul (he still possesses
one) and he must continue to attone until he feels that his soul is in good
enough shape the make into some 'good' place in the afterlife. Now I realize
that this sounds much more religious than most views. But, in reality, every
POV that encompasses world view has a religious component. How we view our
souls (or lack there of) is an intricate part of how we view everything else.
We are, after all, rather egocentric, aren't we? We can't help it really.
I see Nick's POV to be rather forward thinking while maybe just a liitle too
introspective. Angst aside. He does not see vampires as souless. Just damned.
Anyway, as always, consider the source.
Carrie,
Proud Knightie
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:41:22 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: FK on SciFi...
Well, I am still writing letters to USA requesting that FK be shown on
USA instead of SciFi, but all this SciFi business is startign to get
depressing...now that my sister has moved, we no longer get SciFi!
I *really* hate Kay Koplovitz...*and* Jon Feltheimer...
BTW: I am headed home for a few days for spring break, so any questions
about Sanctuary, post them to the play list...that's what I do
anyway...other people know more about it than I do...which begs the
question: "How did I end up 'organizing' this little outting?" Answer:
"Beats me!"...alrightie...off to San Francisco for me! (yeah!)
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 11:03:48 -0500
From: Gehirn Karies <SoulDebris@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK website award Kudos
Gaylin.
Congrats on your recognition for the web site
(http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/FKtoc.html)
I couldn't appreciate your efforts more! I came on line last month to argue
with Bill Maher (politically incorrect on ComedyCentral) and discovered your
web site sometime thereafter. I switched to AOL (ex-comp) last week and
have been immersed in the Forever Knight Universe ever since. I'm the only one
I know who watches, I haven't missed an episode since first veiwing the re-run
of "Fathers Day," Bouncing about the FK Universe, chatting with the cousins,
reading all the amazingly wonderful FanFic, ordering T-Shirts and Novellettes
wouldn't have happened for me without people like you who are so unselfishly
dedicated to the show.
I hope AOL will sponsor the show, and Advertise one of the web sites, prefferably
yours. I know I for one would have gone on line after digesting my first
delicious ep. I'm *really* pissed that I've missed so much interaction with
all you guys.
Happy to be one with the Knight (Universe) at last.
Gehirn Karies
SoulDebris@a.......
Instant Cousin
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:23:49 CST
From: Kelley Leverich <LEVERICH@l.......>
Subject: Another faction quip ...
A posse of Vaqueros/Vaqueras?
A clamp of Natties?
[ow, where did that box of rubber gloves come from ...?]
-- kelley
Uncertainty and mystery are energies of life. Don't let them
scare you unduly, for they keep boredom at bay and spark creativity.
- R.I. Fitzhenry
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 11:27:52 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Vamps, Sun, Soullessness...
On Thu, 14 Mar 1996, Carrie Krumtum wrote:
> In his mind, his
> choice of vampirism has twisted and darkened his soul (he still possesses
> one) and he must continue to attone until he feels that his soul is in good
> enough shape the make into some 'good' place in the afterlife. Now I realize
> that this sounds much more religious than most views.
Is there some reason to avoid a religious view? It seems to me that
Nick's world view *must* be primarily a medieval Catholic one - he
doesn't seem to have much ability to change with the times - I think he
has a good camouflage thing going, but that deep down, he's still got the
religion he grew up with.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:24:00 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: Being brought over -- Carouches explained!
WCT wrote:
:Oops, I might have meant the one that bit Perry. I'm getting my vampire dogs
:mixed up. Didn't we see one or the other of them, at least for a second?
: Kind of a feral looking guy? Am I imagining it?
It went pretty fast, but all I saw was hands coming up to grab him out of
the dirt. You weren't thinking of Screed (who does look pretty feral but
said he didn't do it.)
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:51:31 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: USA AOL posting forwarded here earlier.
:Now, I'm not being pessimistic by choice, as I am a normally
:optimistic person, BUT... Except for home-made movie specials,
:I never recall having seen a presently filming series (or its
:reruns) on the SCI-FI Channel. Does that mean FK is dead?
Unless FKSOS is successful, FK will have only 4 more (already filmed, filming
finished 2-21-96) episodes to show (in May). If we're lucky, some of the "TV
movie" rumors will come true.
They are doing this to FK in the same way they did it to TekWar.
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:14:02 -0800
From: Cousin Cherri <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK website wins award
Congraduations!!!! That's incredible.
Cousin Cherri Valentine, Sime/Gen, FKLFE
<cdmunoz@e.......> NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
Save FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:22:33 -0700
From: Isis <isis@m.......>
Subject: Predator teeth
>Most real-life predator animals, after all, don't have retractable
>teeth. Are there any predator animals that *do* have retractable
>teeth or retractable fangs?
I'm not absolutely positive, but I think there are a few species of snakes
that have partially retractable fangs. Like the King Cobra. But I could
be wrong. Any snake experts feel like backing me up or flaming me all to
hell?
Jaime
_______________________________________________
Isis@m....... Natpacker/Immortal Beloved/X-phile
Frisbeetarianism: The belief that when you die, your soul
goes up on the roof and gets stuck.
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:10:15 EST
From: TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy and Vachon
>"I say we should call them Apaches, in honor of said Apache's ***fabulous***
>Tracy/Vachon fan-fic. "
I will second this...no someone else did that...I will third it <G>.
Dona Torrey
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:10:09 EST
From: TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: Re: greetings one and all
cousin blondie writes:
> ya know
>cherri, whenever i drive past a cow pasture (you guessed it!) i think of you
>and moooo in your memory in the past war....
<snicker, snicker> I like this cousin <G>. ;) Yes I think we should all
"mooo" in honor of Cherri and her Cow costume.
Dona Torrey
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:29:40 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: SOSFK: USA is just trying to make itself look good...
On Mar 14, 1996 08:51:31, 'June Russell <Kat@g.......>' wrote:
>Unless FKSOS is successful, FK will have only 4 more (already filmed, filming
>finished 2-21-96) episodes to show (in May). If we're lucky, some of the "TV
>movie" rumors will come true.
I got an e-mail recently from the guy (Justin Ware) who interviewed me,
congratulating us on having 'won', as per the word he got from USA; and
though I have not heard back from him w/a clarification, I have to assume
that this refers to the airing of the past eps on SciFi.
Which means, basically, that USA is going around telling people that "due
to the overwhelming demand for FK, we are magnanimously going to air this
show!"
Which is a crock, because we knew back in December that USA was planning to
'strip' the show, probably on SciFi: but now they're using these plans to
make themselves look good in the face of the SOSFK effort, to show the
world 'how much they care about the fans'. And worse, they're giving the
implication that we've "saved the show", simply because they're showing
reruns, therefore undermining our effort.
I cannot express how I feel about USA's tactics in this regard, as
profanity of that type is strictly forbidden on this list.
The worst part is, I can't even tell USA how I feel; we may need their
goodwill in the future.
While I think that USA's tactics are deplorable, and while I agree that
airing FK on SciFi is tremendously inferior to airing it on USA, there are
some advantages to the situation...
First off, airing FK on SciFi is preferable to airing in syndication simply
because it'll be easier to find -- how many of our local syndicated
stations bury the show at 2-3 am? Even if SciFi gives it an equally
horrible timeslot, at least it'll be on at the same time everywhere; easier
to get people to tune in & watch than having them scrutinize their TV Guide
looking for that obscure listing. And I don't think SciFi is going to bury
it; how much "new" programming do they have to show?
Second, although SciFi isn't carried on many cable systems, it is one of
the in-demand stations; people tend to lobby for it, and more systems are
taking it every day.
Third, SciFi is a 'target' network, looking to appeal to a specific
audience; and that specific audience is more likely to find FK on SciFi
through casual gee-what's-on TV browsing than on a syndicated station.
Fourth, SciFi is small, still, USA's stepchild; which may mean that they'll
be more receptive to us and our efforts. USA is big enough to be able to
get away with ignoring us; among their larger viewership, we simply don't
matter.. With SciFi: we may just be able to 'get on their good side'.
Fifth... without some sort of affiliation with some sort of network, we can
forget the idea of TV movies or any continuation of the series.
Syndication won't give us that; with SciFi involved, there's a possibility.
So while I'm not happy with the SciFi thing, it's not as bad as it could've
been... but USA's attitude, of pretending that we 'won', means that we are
going to have to work harder to accomplish our aims.
BUT, the fact that FK will apparently be showing in reruns right away will
keep people watching -- get new people watching -- 'way more than if it
were to continue in syndication -- and possibly, more so than if it were
being shown on USA after wrestling!
I would like to propose (if anyone still has any money/time/energy left)
that we give SciFi the syndicated-station treatment. Happy letters of
thanks, congratulating them on acquiring FK and urging them to show it
early and frequently. Gifts. Chocolate. Copies of letters we've sent to
local cable carriers, urging them to carry SciFi. Things to make them LIKE
us.
The more SciFi likes us, the more they see our presence and our intensity
and our VIEWERSHIP... hey, we can't afford not to court another ally.
Comments, anyone?
--
..............Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>..............
Asst. Listowner, SFK WebGoddess, Cinnamon Natpacker, Merc-MIA
"Now??? We're getting strange NOW???" -- Dianne la Mercenaire
****** Sorry, but Jamie is not coherent at the moment. ******
** Check back after her Saturn Return on April Fool's Day. **
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