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Digest - 20 Aug 2007 to 21 Aug 2007 (#2007-36)
Tue, 21 Aug 2007
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Topics of the day:
1. Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely (8)
2. Only the Lonely
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:47:01 GMT
From: KC Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
This is one of my favorite episodes. I've always wondered if Nick was
actually as clueless as he acted. I mean, the man IS nearly 800 years old...
I can't see him not really knowing what was going on with Natalie.
The fact that Natalie was giving confusing signals didn't help... getting mad
at him for showing up in her apartment and 'ruining' the end of her day with
Roger and then getting madder at him for telling her in the morgue that he was
glad she was seeing someone... but still, he had to have some IDEA as to what
was really bugging her.
I've also always wondered if Roger didn't deliberately pick Natalie. At
the beginning of the ep she hinted that she'd thought about trying a dating
service... could she have made a tape (in which case they'd have a file on
her) but then changed her mind before they made it available to other members?
I just thought that the meeting with Roger was a little too coincidental.
On another note... does anyone know if there are any flashbacks to Nick's
life in the late 1970's or early to mid 1980's? I couldn't find any when I
quickly scanned through my DVD's, but that doesn't mean that I didn't miss
them. I had a story idea, but I need an idea of what Nick was doing in that
time frame.
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with dark tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
http://kc.descentintodarkness.net
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:59:13 -0400
From: Wendy <w.rigney@v.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
Oh, I'm not so sure, even with almost 800 years under his belt, that Nick
did know what was bothering Natalie. "Thick as a brick" doesn't describe
Nick just because! *G*
In all seriousness, this is also one of my very favorite episodes. (Of
course, the fact that I am a true-blue N&NPacker always doesn't hurt!) I
loved seeing how it all came about in terms of Nick meeting Nat. It is
still one of the most...unique...first meetings ever. :-) As for Roger not
picking Nat randomly, it is a good theory, but I don't know. I just took
Nat saying she had thought about it at just that, thinking. But it is
certainly a new angle to that train of thought.
Finally, I can't say that I recall any flashbacks to the 1970s or 1980s.
There seems to have been flashbacks to every time period *but* those, unless
I missed them, too. But since you're interested in possibly writing a fic,
maybe some creative license wouldn't be out of bounds here.
Wendy
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From: "KC Smith" <tigrlady2u@j.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
This is one of my favorite episodes. I've always wondered if Nick was
actually as clueless as he acted. I mean, the man IS nearly 800 years old...
I can't see him not really knowing what was going on with Natalie. The fact
that Natalie was giving confusing signals didn't help... getting mad at him
for showing up in her apartment and 'ruining' the end of her day with Roger
and then getting madder at him for telling her in the morgue that he was
glad she was seeing someone... but still, he had to have some IDEA as to
what was really bugging her.
I've also always wondered if Roger didn't deliberately pick Natalie. At the
beginning of the ep she hinted that she'd thought about trying a dating
service... could she have made a tape (in which case they'd have a file on
her) but then changed her mind before they made it available to other
members? I just thought that the meeting with Roger was a little too
coincidental.
On another note... does anyone know if there are any flashbacks to Nick's
life in the late 1970's or early to mid 1980's? I couldn't find any when I
quickly scanned through my DVD's, but that doesn't mean that I didn't miss
them. I had a story idea, but I need an idea of what Nick was doing in that
time frame.
KC Smith
tigrlady2u@j.......
Nick/Natpacker with dark tendencies.
"I've never met a chocolate I didn't like."
http://kc.descentintodarkness.net
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:10:26 +0800
From: eruve erundun <eruveerundun@y.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
<snip>
On another note... does anyone know if there are any flashbacks to Nick's
life in the late 1970's or early to mid 1980's? <snip>
Could it be a fashion reason for not having flashbacks of our
oh-so-fashionable vampires in that period?
1970s - Nick in bell bottoms and sideburns anyone? LaCroix with mood rings?
Janette in tie-dye?
1980 - "Miami Vice"- style for the guys. "Dynasty"-shoulder pads on Janette?
Runs off for recurring nightmare counselling...
Ell
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:13:51 +0200
From: cousinlucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
eruve erundun schrieb:
> <snip>
>
> 1970s - Nick in bell bottoms and sideburns anyone? LaCroix with mood rings?
Janette in tie-dye?
>
Somebody wrote a crossover story that has a Nick in 70s garb. Title
escapes me, though I seem to recall it was a cross with
Fantasy Island. Janette in tie dye? - Never! More likely YSL.
>
> 1980 - "Miami Vice"- style for the guys. "Dynasty"-shoulder pads on
Janette?
>
The 'original' Janette in the Springfield movie version wears classic
80s style.
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:01:36 -0500
From: Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
Janette NatPack writes:
>Hmmm....perhaps this should be a story challenge on the fanfic list? What
>happened to Nick just before he moved to Toronto, and how did it affect his
>behavior when he first met Natalie?
Oh I think a story challenge is a great idea. I've got a fic in beta that
alludes to Nick having a rough time before he meet Natalie and became a cop
but it doesn't go into any detail as of right now.
KC Smith I think it would be a great idea for you to write your story. The
way I see it, the writers never got around to filling in those blanks so
therefore they're open to interpretation. I'd love to read what people come up
with.
eruve erundun writes:
> Could it be a fashion reason for not having flashbacks of our
>oh-so-fashionable vampires in that >period?
> 1980 - "Miami Vice"- style for the guys. "Dynasty"-shoulder pads on
>Janette?
> Runs off for recurring nightmare counselling...
Eep! I've already got Nick in 'Miami Vice' gear on the brain because of
season 1. I think Nick is totally channeling Don Johnson there. On ocassion
he's worn that pink t-shirt with a gray sports jacket. I guess now would be as
good a time as any to say that I'm obsessed with season 1 wardrobe across
the board. And for a quasi plug I've even got a fansite in the works that
looks at FK fashions--the good, the bad, and the ugly. I'm looking at you back
dress shirt with the white stripes. ::shutters::
cousinlucilla writes:
> > 1980 - "Miami Vice"- style for the guys. "Dynasty"-shoulder pads on
>Janette?
> >
>The 'original' Janette in the Springfield movie version wears classic
>80s style.
Oh I love that dress. It's *so* 80s. Not to mention the song they use for
her entrance. I've got screengrabs to compare 'Nick Knight' with 'Forever
Knight' for my work in progress fansite. For those who haven't seen the movie
it's loads of fun.
Roxana
(roxeliz@h.......)
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:56:47 -0700
From: Adina Montgomery <adinaruth@e.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
>
>Finally, I can't say that I recall any flashbacks to the 1970s or 1980s.
>
Were the Viet Nam flashbacks from the 1960's or 1970s?
Adina Montgomery
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:52:11 -0400
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
> 1980 - "Miami Vice"- style for the guys.
In my "to be written someday" pile of fan fiction ideas is
Toronto Vice.
A jaded, arrogant, unshaven Nick would be Crockett (Don
Johnson's Role).
Schanke would be Tubbs, complete with affecting a "south of the
border" accent for undercover work (I was thinking California beachbump
valleyspeak instead of Jamacian) as they try to cut off the evil
smugglers bringing illicit cargo across the border into Canada.
Stonetree would be perfectly named and cast as the laconic
police captain (edward James olmos's role).
I hadn't figured out the rest of the cast yet.
LaCroix as the evil criminal mastermind that is always 1 step
ahead?
Janette as the Vice squad prostitution decoy with the biggest
record of arrests in the city?
Song cues would be in the fiction, referencing popular 1980s
songs if someone wanted the complete experience.
One of these days....
Tim
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:24:11 -0700
From: "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Only The Lonely
KC Smith <tigrlady2u@j.......> wrote: This is one of my favorite episodes.
I've always wondered if Nick was actually as clueless as he acted. I mean, the
man IS nearly 800 years old... I can't see him not really knowing what was
going on with Natalie. The fact that Natalie was giving confusing signals didn't
help... [snip]
This one rates very highly on my list of faves also. However clueless Nick
may seem at times, I don't think he didn't realize what was up with Natalie.
Maybe ... if there had been just one such discussion with her, but after the
conversation in her apartment and then the conversation later in morgue, combined
with the fact that he'd known her for several years at this point, I think Nick
knew EXACTLY what was eating her, but since he had no intention of going there,
he chose simply to ignore it.
As for confusing signals from Natalie, Nick wasn't exactly steadfast in that
department either. IIRC, he signed the birthday card "with affection," yet his
demeanor and behavior at Natalie's apartment said anything but "just friends."
[snip] At the beginning of the ep she hinted that she'd thought about trying
a dating service... could she have made a tape (in which case they'd have a
file on her) but then changed her mind before they made it available to other
members? I just thought that the meeting with Roger was a little too coincidental.
[snip]
I suppose it's possible, but I don't think it's something she actually went
through with since she only mentioned having thought about it. And, going with
this scenario, that would make her encounter with Roger purely coincidental. I
think, in this instance, Roger just saw an opportunity and ran with it.
:) Boomer
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:00:04 -0700
From: - Annonymous <littlelotte1881@c.......>
Subject: Re: Only the Lonely
As Crockett, I could see Nick speeding down the road in a red Ferrari to Kenny
Loggins' "Danger Zone" Lol! If Jannette owned the club for 20 years as
referrenced in Black Bhudda, I could see her running The Raven circa 1984 dressed
like Apolonia from Purple Rain, corsets, lace gloves, big hair and all!
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