There are 8 messages totalling 248 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. If FK had a bigger budget (3) 2. UPDATE: OT: looking for crash space 3. some thoughts on hypnosis 4. Any news in the US on the Horror Channel? 5. Reminder - Dark Knight discussion June 30 6. Ger's citizenship ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:37:20 -0700 From: Allison Lahikainen <smilewithviolets@y......> Subject: If FK had a bigger budget I agree with having a story arc. And if it were produced in this day and age we could have the face licking version on LOGO. ; ) Allison unnamed cousin smilewithviolets@y...... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:44:36 -0700 From: Sherri Horun <sherrihorun@y......> Subject: Re: UPDATE: OT: looking for crash space Will be thinking of your friend and hoping for the best. SherriLynn Mildred Cady <mildred.cady@g.......> wrote: Ok... some good news... they just found a liver for my friend and she's going into surgery now... we'll know more in 8-10 hours. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 02:50:14 EDT From: KnghtWtch@a....... Subject: Re: some thoughts on hypnosis In a message dated 6/16/2006 3:15:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, viv11374@y...... writes: Last night I went to a lecture on hypnosis and biofeedback, and I had a few thoughts from what I learned that I'd like to share. -Levels of susceptibility to hypnosis are inborn and largely genetic, but there's nobody that *absolutely* *can't* be hypnotized. You forgot to mention that hypnosis in not what you see on TV. You won't do anything you really don't want to do while under. It's a extreme state of relaxation. You can hear things around you. Your NOT asleep. And yes...it's a great form of relaxation. I use it when I go to the doctor to help lower my blood pressure. LaCroix wouldn't like that. And when I go to the dentist. It really helps. I've been doing it since 1975. However, if Nick were to 'hypnotize' me....I wouldn't have any trouble at all doing what he wants me to do. We all know he has good intentions. KnightWitch ;-]= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:39:33 -0400 From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......> Subject: If FK had a bigger budget tracy gooding wrote: > So, if you had had the budget of one of the big, > glossy TV series, what > would you have changed 1. In terms of increasing the audience (especially making it more attractive for casual or new viewers to tune in to), the single biggest thing to change would simply have to be the *time*. For me, when FK was on CTV, the hour was reasonable, i.e. prime time. But the operative phrase there is "when it was on" CTV, which it mostly wasn't, since they kept cancelling it. Like most people I wound up watching it in the wee hours. On a Buffalo station. And wasn't that a fine thing--for a show that is set in Toronto not to be available on any of the local stations! Unfortunately, scheduling is *not* a budget issue. The schedule is done by the network and/or the local station. Once FK became a syndicated show, it was totally up to the local station when they put it on; and, if they were an affiliate of one of the networks (which most are), that pretty well meant that the show would be on *out* of prime time. Hence the uncivilized hours we complain about. 2 Of course, I'm with Karen on consistency: it would have been lovely not to have the gaffes. But didn't they go on record as saying that they didn't think inconsistency mattered as long as it worked in the individual story? It's the sort of thing that marks a kind of old-time TV mentality about the production--the notion that, since the shows are only seen once (and, if syndicated in re-runs, are seen out of order), then no one will notice or care. If they'd had more money, it doesn't mean they'd have spent it as we'd have liked them to. 3. One thing they might *actually* have done is spend a bit more on things like extras and bit parts. More people around in the historical scenes, for example: think of "Be My Valentine": nary a servant in sight! Whoever heard of a medieval castle without retainers? When Nick (apparently) returned unexpectedly from the Crusades, there should have been a big crowd scene. There should at least have been someone on guard at the door! And how many episodes were there in which the captain came into the interrogation room to pass on a minor message to Nick and his partner? I mean, you know that in real life it isn't the *captain* who runs errands! But they did do a lot of the episodes on the ultra-cheap, especially towards the end of the season. In fact, how about a regular group of people seen around the police station in the background? The night shift detectives at their desks: the same ones each episode, I mean, the way it really would be. (Think of Grace at the lab.) The odd word of chit-chat going to their desks, or getting coffee. I know they did a bit of this sort of thing in some of the episodes, but only *if* it worked into a story line. But I'm talking about doing it regularly, with recurring bit part actors, so we got to know the people in the squad room as supporting characters. Ditto on the staff at the lab in addition to Grace (whom we could have seen more often). Also, staff at the Raven, besides Miklos. By doing a lot filming on location they got a fair range of realistic settings, but fleshing out the cast a bit with minor recurring roles--I'd go for that as a pretty good way to spend any extra. However-- 4. Top of my list would have to be *promotion*. I'm with Megan. The extra money would have been best put to use in advertising. There should have been a lot of promo spots during commercials on TV--not just during genre series but during cop shows as well. And there was nothing I saw in print that would reach a general audience, e.g. ads in the TV Guide. Greer gwatson2@r....... http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:35:52 -0700 From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y......> Subject: Any news in the US on the Horror Channel? There was some talk last year about the Horror channel getting some of the rights to FK? Has anyone heard whether or not that is happening or has fizzled out? "The price for this gift is the darkness of the night, and the blood of humanity to sustain you." -THICKER THAN WATER, Kristen Fife in progress See my blog at http://spaces.msn.com/members/landinn/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:30:33 -0700 From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y......> Subject: Reminder - Dark Knight discussion June 30 Just a reminder, we will be starting an episode discussion on Dark Knight 1 & 2 on June 30. If you are in the US and don't have the DVD's, you can rent them from Netflix. Now would also be a good time to share with friends that haven't been converted to the FK world :) "The price for this gift is the darkness of the night, and the blood of humanity to sustain you." -THICKER THAN WATER, Kristen Fife in progress See my blog at http://spaces.msn.com/members/landinn/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:31:29 -0400 From: Mary Combs <combsm@e.......> Subject: Re: If FK had a bigger budget Greer wrote a several great comments including: > Whoever heard of a medieval castle without retainers? Amen to that! A tad more money spent on research (not the intense scholarly kind, just the stuff you can turn up in the encyclopedia or at a decent bookstore) would have paid off, along with resources to get the people/materials. For example, Erica's doll always makes me squirm. Even the greatest suspension of disbelief can't make it much more than one century old, and she's supposed to have been saving it for three ! A prop version of a period doll wouldn't have been very hard or time consuming to buy or even make, but when every penny counts..... Mary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:39:51 -0400 From: Mary Combs <combsm@e.......> Subject: Re: Ger's citizenship Nancy Kaminski wrote > I suppose this will make it easier for Ger to get work here in the US. If so, it certainly explains the choice. I've been a Shakespeare Theatre subscriber for decades, and it's clear that when Michael Kahn gets hold of an actor he really likes, he takes steps to bring them back as much as possible, whether in a leading role, or, as with Ger's current appearance in Love's Labours Lost, in a gem of a supporting part. Mary ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 16 Jun 2006 to 17 Jun 2006 (#2006-165) ***************************************************************
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