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FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Sep 2004 to 24 Sep 2004 (#2004-265)

Fri, 24 Sep 2004

There are 12 messages totalling 331 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. FK in a different media? (4)
  2. FK news
  3. FK Next gen
  4. YKYBWTMFKW
  5. YKWBWTMFKW...
  6. YKYBWTMFKW...
  7. FK in a different medium?
  8. FK Novels on Ebay
  9. FW: FK news

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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:09:34 -0700
From:    Michele C <mobody_62@y......>
Subject: Re: FK in a different media?

--- Luicia <luicia1705@y.......> wrote:
> >An interesting idea that has just occurred to me is
> what if Ger was willing to take the LaCroix role
> over for a remake?

I thought about that when I saw the second to last
episode of Tracker (where Zin and AP have the
showdown).  I thought he was totally doing Nigel's
Lacroix in that episode, and I really think he can do
evil just as well.

Mo

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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:10:10 EDT
From:    Judith Lieberman <JudithL21@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK news

That sounds like a good plan.  There have been several zines that have been
sold for charity.  Judy Lieberman

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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:12:29 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......>
Subject: Re: FK Next gen

That's actually a huge part of (what's going to become) my 'Joshua' series.
(I'm workin' on it, I'm workin' on it!  Being in your last year of school is NOT
good on the free time.)

               -Megan

Katherine DeVries <banshee1@t.......> wrote:
This visual made me laugh and laugh. Poor Nick! Someone's gotta take this as
a plotbunny.

"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."


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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:15:21 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......>
Subject: Re: FK in a different media?

--- Luicia wrote:
> >An interesting idea that has just occurred to me is
> what if Ger was willing to take the LaCroix role
> over for a remake?

I'm afraid I'd have a hard time not laughing hysterically every time he comes
on screen.

            -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."


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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:37:53 -0700
From:    Danielle DeBrabant <danii.debrabant@g.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFKW

...you find out that the ruler of Los Angeles in the new "Vampire the
Masquerade: Bloodlines" video game is named LaCroix...and the giggles
don't stop until your helpful hallmate closes the internet explorer
window.

Danii

PS: Guess where MY funds will be going when it comes out...and guess
what my first character is going to be named ^_^

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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:41:17 -0600
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Re: YKWBWTMFKW...

>I saw an article on Yahoo news about trained rats being used to find
>earthquake survivors, and my first thought was, did they get in touch
>with the Ratpack?

Wow, I barely trained mine to come when I whistle, and that still only works
when it's hungry.  Rats can be hard to train, look at Libs! <G>
'Rose

"The true nature of the Vampire is undefined, undiscovered, inconceivably
complex, and therefore, Lots of fun!"

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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:42:30 -0700
From:    Danielle DeBrabant <danii.debrabant@g.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFKW...

...when, after reloading the "Vampire the Masquerade:  Bloodlines"
site, you check out the video section to find that the poster-vamp
used for most of the previews is named Janette.

Danii,
who figures there HAS to be some sort of FK fan working on the game
production team.

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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:55:20 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: FK in a different medium?

I'd love to see more *anything* FK! -- but as someone who's been reading
comics for many years, I think FK would potentially translate very well
into that medium.  A lot of people down the years have pointed out that
the visuals in a good comic closely resemble sequential stills from
movies.  More accurately, given that comics tend to come as series,
would be a parallel with TV.
    The big problem as I see it (aside from the picky legalities of
licencing) is that there is, at least to the regular comics reader --
and hence the writers and artists, most of whom today are fans by
background -- a real distinction between comics that are primarily
created in/for that medium and comics that are tie-ins.  You rarely find
the artists from one working on books of the other type.
    I've seen the CSI comic, or at least the first issue.  I thought the
painted cover was gorgeous.  But although the standard of internal art
was high as far as the backgrounds went, the attempt to reproduce the
features of the actors with line drawings was less successful.  In some
panels certain characters looked quite like the actors; but there was a
tendency for the result to be a bland generic face with the right colour
of hair.  And I've noticed this before with tie-in comics.  There is a
*tentative* quality to the art on the faces, caused by the attempt to
simplify the complexities of life and reduce them to 2-D line art.
    By contrast, characters created for comics look distinctive -- their
faces were created as line drawings, and are therefore not an attempt at
simplifying life.  The joke is, of course, that the reverse problem
occurs when a movie or TV show is made from a comic.  Almost inevitably,
there are fans whose immediate response is that the actor cast in the
part doesn't look like the character in the comic.  (One of the few
movies that did successfully cast actors who satisfied fans was
"Spider-man".  I've never spoken to any fan who didn't feel that that
*was* J. Jonah Jameson, to the life.  And "to  the life" is a weird term
to use when talking about someone who's never existed except as a line
drawing.)
    Which means -- to get back to topic before someone tells me this is
an FK list -- that, quite apart from there being fans who aren't into
comics as a medium -- there would be a problem getting satisfactory
visuals if anyone ever could be persuaded to try -- again -- to licence
the show for comics.  What would be needed, actually, would be an artist
who would *not* attempt to reproduce the actors' features, but rather
draw the *characters*.  Which might be more easily proposed than
achieved, not just because of the artistic challenge, but because of the
exigencies of licencing.
    Personally, I'd love to see someone like the Bendis/Maleev team do a
Forever Knight comic.  Their work on Daredevil (the current comic, not
the movie) is just the sort of style that would suit FK to a tee.  Alex
Maleev's art is both naturalistic and noir, eminently suited to the
style of the nightworld of FK.  And Bendis is probably the best writer
currently in comics (though there are certainly others whose work I
love), with a flair for characterization and a talent for thematic
complexity.   But people of that calibre work on the projects that
*they* want.


Greer

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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:06:19 -0700
From:    Sherri <bloodroses_thorn@y......>
Subject: Re: FK in a different media?

--- Luicia <luicia1705@y.......> wrote:

> Well over in the uk there used to be a kids show
> where the hero was a wellknown secret agents
> nephew..James Bond Jr


No one can stop him, but the Enforcers will try,
Young Nick flys through the Toronto skies
He earned the guilt from his Father Nick
Now he's there to say
"Hi Dad, can I borrow your neck?"

...oh wait, wrong show.

Sorry, it's late, and I just got back from an amazing
rendition of Midsummer's Night Dream (anyone in the
Shenandoah region should go see it at Blackfriar's
RIGHT NOW!!!!) and was feeling a bit silly.

Plus... I always loved that show.  And now I wish
someone would do a sort of FK spin off.  Although, I
still think a manga would be cooler.. sexy androgenous
japanese style art *purrpurrpurr*  Or maybe
chibi-LaCroix... he could walk around with a duck on
one side, and a Q-Tip on the other.

Yes, I know, I'm going to Hades.  But I will take you
all with me as I go!!

-Sherri-neko =^.^=

=====
-If you belong to nobody, you are nobody.
-Torture is not what you do to someone, but what you have them do for you.
-Abuse is more than power, it is intimacy.


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Date:    Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:17:41 -0700
From:    Sherri <bloodroses_thorn@y......>
Subject: Re: FK Novels on Ebay

--- Linda Hepden <kezia.hepden@n.......> wrote:
> Be warned - the seller of "On Holy Ground" wants
>$75.00 -

Oh dear lord.  I will never stop kicking myself, now.
A while back, I found both "On Holy Ground" and
"Stirring of Dust" on Amazon.co.uk for $4.50
(american) each... and only bothered to buy Stirring
of Dust because I'd already read a friends copy of
Holy Ground, and didn't want to "waste the money".
*kickkick*

Hmm... my copy of Stirring of Dust is still around
here somewhere.... wonder what I could get for that,
if I could bear to part with it.

-Sherri-neko =^.^=


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Date:    Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:18:34 +0000
From:    Nicola De Brabant <lucien1228@h.......>
Subject: FW: FK news

Sounds like a great idea. Go for it!


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Date:    Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:40:08 +0100
From:    Luicia <luicia1705@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK in a different media?

As long as neither Janette or Nat show up in those highschool uniforms (like
sailor moon's) they have my vote for it.... i don't think i could handle Janette
screaming 'Moon Prism Power' everytime some guy looked at her the wrong
way...or everytime Nick became the Brick either LOL

Sherri <bloodroses_thorn@y......> wrote:I still think a manga would be
cooler.. sexy androgenous
japanese style art *purrpurrpurr* Or maybe
chibi-LaCroix... he could walk around with a duck on
one side, and a Q-Tip on the other.



  What is Love : it is the dreams of the young, the memories of the old and the
air by which all others breathe.


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