FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Oct 2000 to 12 Oct 2000 (#2000-316)
Thu, 12 Oct 2000
There are 18 messages totalling 451 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. the ending of LK
2. Fen (was: FORKNI-L Digest - 8 Oct 2000...)
3. Shame on me - was Re: Farpoint convention report
4. trivia (2)
5. FORKNI-L Digest - 9 Oct 2000 to 10 Oct 2000 (#2000-314) (2)
6. <no subject> (3)
7. Trivia Quiz (2)
8. Tower in Baby Baby was re: <no subject>
9. End of Last Knight
10. [Re: [FORKNI-L] trivia]
11. Fiction Contest Reminder
12. Tracy Cook/Alma
13. Get TV Shows on DVD!
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:29:10 BST
From: Jackie Brown <jaxuk1996@h.......>
Subject: Re: the ending of LK
Yes, Bob could have told her how good he thinks she'd look in a
cardigan......
Aaaaaa! (Runs away screaming in terror.)
:) Jackie
> At the end of Last Knight, Natalie awakens in bed. Her
>husband, Bob Newhart, comforts her that she was only a
>nightmare.
> It could have been far, far worse. :-)
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:31:54 -0400
From: "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
Subject: Re: Fen (was: FORKNI-L Digest - 8 Oct 2000...)
Libratsie said....
I'm not sure of the origin, but "Fen" is the tradition plural name for
science fiction/fanasy/horror/etc. fans and has filtered into other fandoms
as well.
Probably like _man_ is to _men_, so then _fan_ is to _fen_.
But I'm only guessing,
Julia B. (aka: Brooksie) and Allie's Brook
forever Knightie crusader, Les Chevaliers de la Nuit
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"And a screaming fine ride [he] is, too."
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with Ginger (Woofpack) and Dusty (FOSiL)
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:24:31 +0600
From: Don Fasig <phase3@g.......>
Subject: Shame on me - was Re: Farpoint convention report
Obviously I also need to be more careful about what's in the "To:" field
before I hit the send button. I meant that last message to go only to
Ron the Enforcer.
Sorry,
Don ----,-'<@
Argent@e.......
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:08:17 EDT
From: DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: trivia
In a message dated 10/11/00 9:07:10 PM, LISTSERV@l....... writes:
<< ***14. What are Fans called?
Fen ***
Really? I always thought we were called Fkers. <g>
>>
I was thinking in general terms. We are FKers, and we're also Fen.
Judy
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:24:23 EDT
From: DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 9 Oct 2000 to 10 Oct 2000 (#2000-314)
In a message dated 10/10/00 9:05:32 PM, LISTSERV@l....... writes:
<< >7. How long did Janette run the Raven Night Club?
> Did they say?
Yes... and they contradicted themselves <eg>
In "Dark Knight", Janette says that she'd been in Toronto three years, and
only *now* Nick comes to visit her.
In "Human Factor" (roughly three years after DK), either Janette or Lacroix
mentions that she'd run the Raven for 20 years...
>>
I actually put in Dark Knight to see if the answer was there and only watched
the scene where N&J reunited for the first time in years. She did NOT say
anything about how long she'd been in town. I had thought to check Black
Buddha but didn't think it would be there, and I hate that Schanke died.
::sniffle:: I didn't know what ep had the flashback with Janette selling the
club to Lacroix, and figured that would have the info I needed.
Thanks to everyone who helped me out with that one.
Judy
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:36:16 -0500
From: Brenda <bcammarata@h.......>
Subject: Re: trivia
Judy wrote:
>>I was thinking in general terms. We are FKers, and we're also Fen.
Boy, am I out of the loop. I've never heard of fen.
Carpe Noctem,
Brenda
UCCelebration 2000, Wolfville 2000
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:40:22 -0500
From: CLone Star Software <cstar@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 9 Oct 2000 to 10 Oct 2000 (#2000-314)
At 11:24 PM 10/11/2000 EDT, Judy wrote:
I didn't know what ep had the flashback with Janette selling the
>club to Lacroix,
That's in Human Factor, the ep where Janette is mortal and comes to TO to
avenge her lover's death.
Marci C
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 21:03:40 +0000
From: Jeannie Ecklund <jecklund@l.......>
Subject: <no subject>
Can some one tell me what the tower in Baby Baby was called?
Radio tower??
Jeannie
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:28:26 -0400
From: Valerie Kessler <valerie@w.......>
Subject: Re: Trivia Quiz
Kyer queried:
> Okay.. this is news to me. I need feedback on this one. Why 'Fen'?
The folk etymology is that it came from a typo in a Trek zine sometime
in the 60s or 70s, and enough people were amused by it that it became
common usage. Considering the fannish propensity for playing with the
language, before I heard this story I had always assumed it was a play
on "man/men". And if the zine-typo story is entirely true, I'd bet the
farm that's why the term stuck.
Not that typos *have* to be from the Dark Age of Mimeographing. After
"False Heart", the NatPack is always on the lookout for a "packing
space" to leave the car in. (We love you, Susan! *eg*)
--
Valerie Meachum Kessler
valerie@w....... ~ www.wiliqueen.com
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby'
and 'mental illness.'" -- Dave Barry
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:36:19 GMT
From: Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: <no subject>
Hi Jeanie,
I thought it was the CN tower. The world's largest free-standing
structure.
----Original Message Follows----
From: Jeannie Ecklund <jecklund@l.......>
Reply-To: jecklund@l.......
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Subject: <no subject>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 21:03:40 +0000
Can some one tell me what the tower in Baby Baby was called?
Radio tower??
Jeannie
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:21:10 -0300
From: "T. Floyd" <jflyer@b.......>
Subject: Tower in Baby Baby was re: <no subject>
-----Original Message-----
From: Forever Knight TV show [mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......]On Behalf Of
Jeannie Ecklund <jecklund@l.......
: Can some one tell me what the tower in Baby Baby was called?
: Radio tower??
I believe it was the CN Tower http://www.cntower.ca/ --I'm not 100% sure
about that though.
LapLor, admin@p.......
http://pineloft.com http://Laplor.tripod.com/
http://www.themestream.com/articles/203709.html
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 12:50:08 +0000
From: Jeannie Ecklund <jecklund@l.......>
Subject: Re: <no subject>
Can you give me more detail about what it is. (the CN) tower.
Jeannie
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:32:32 CDT
From: Emily <emily.m.hanson@u.......>
Subject: End of Last Knight
My thought was that Nick wakes up in the hospital beside Tracy, he'd fallen
asleep, and the whole second part of the ep was a dream and then Tracy wakes
up. Then Nat and Reese come in to see how Tracy is doing, find Nick there,
it's sunrise (oh no) so Nick has to hide in a closet for the rest of the day.
Could have a hilarious scene with a doctor who looks a lot like Schanke
opening up the closet and finding Nick there.
<g>
emily.m.hanson@u.......
Visit my homepage at http://www.starbase-eprime.com
ICQ#: 73113057
FK Affiliation: Undecided.
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:34:51 CDT
From: Emily <emily.m.hanson@u.......>
Subject: Re: [Re: [FORKNI-L] trivia]
Me, neither. I thought what you were called depended on what faction you
joined. And, if you're like me and you haven't joined a faction, you were
simply a FK fan.
Emily, currently factionless
Brenda <bcammarata@h.......> wrote:
Boy, am I out of the loop. I've never heard of fen.
Carpe Noctem,
Brenda
UCCelebration 2000, Wolfville 2000
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:11:25 -0700
From: Bonnie <callalily@l.......>
Subject: Fiction Contest Reminder
Hey all -- just twenty days left in the ScreedWasHere.com fiction contest!!
Prizes, prizes, prizes!!
If this is successful, there will be future contests based on other FK
characters, with related prizes.
Just remember, even if Screed isn't your fav character -- or you're entirely
intimidated by "Screed Speak" -- you can still participate! Have your
characters THINK about Screed. Have your characters AVOID contact with Screed.
Have your characters toss him out of the
Raven/precinct/church/morgue/loft/apartment before he can utter a word. As long
as he motivates the characters in the main plot, that's all that matters.
But, if you want to do the Screed-Speak thing, check out the Ratpack page for
helpful language suggestions: http://www.ScreedWasHere.com/Ratpack/ -- in it's
most basic form, acceptable Screed speech is change MY to ME, change TO to TA,
change YOU to ya, and drop the first H on any word, HANG ON becomes 'Ang On.
Not so hard now is it. Oh, and take a tip from Greg Kramer: he says that he
always writes out the proper English first, then goes back and "translates" it
into Screedish.
So, good luck! Just remember Halloween is Greg's favorite holiday, so I hope
you all will get into the spirit here and enter something by October 31st!!
http://www.ScreedWasHere.com/fanfic/contest.html
Bonnie
callalily@l.......
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:39:01 -0500
From: Quinn <quinn@g.......>
Subject: Re: Trivia Quiz
>Kyer queried:
>
>> Okay.. this is news to me. I need feedback on this one. Why 'Fen'?
>
>The folk etymology is that it came from a typo in a Trek zine sometime
>in the 60s or 70s,
I think this is one of those words whose origins are clouded in fannish
history and memory. It definitely pre-dates FK. (I've never heard it
applied to FK before. )
When I first entered active fandom (about 20 years ago or so) 'fen' was a
term used for followers of elf/fairy/mythological series such as Anne
MacCaffrey's Pern or Richard Pini's Elfquest. Followers of science fiction
based on 'science' - space travel, etc., or TV shows and movies used 'fan'.
quinn
who once drove to Lancaster, PA with an 5foot 7inch greenish elf wearing a
Trek uniform...
quinn@g.......
GWDFC website --> www.gwdfc.org
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:52:49 EDT
From: Doņa Angel <donaangel@h.......>
Subject: Tracy Cook/Alma
From: "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
>>15. What 2 epiosdes has "Tracey Cook" played in FK (plus character name)?
>Rebecca in Dying for Fame Alma in Hunters
Surprisingly, the actress who played the vampiress Alma is the same person
who played the human rock superstar Rebecca -- I did not realize this until
I saw it in one of Cheryl's awesome monthly FK Alumni VCR Alerts [BTW,
Thanks, Cheryl for all your hard work in getting that info to us! :)] and
she had Tracy Cook listed as Alma & Rebecca! {{{I also recently saw her in
an ep of "Due South" as the agent of a hockey player}}}
However, IIRC, was not Alma in at least 2 or at the most 3 FK eps, one of
them maybe being the 'For I Have Sinned' ep-- I know that is where Schanke
confesses to 'Father Nick' about going in the Raven alone because Alma's
there, but was that the first ep in which Schanke meets her and is that also
the one in which she tries to make him "a permanent member of the night
shift", as Janette warns him when she rescues him before Alma gets her fangs
into him, or was that a different ep?
Angel a.k.a. Doņa Angel
Vaquera/Willing Slave of THE Glorious Spaniard/Future Proud Vaq
Brat/VaqDreamer/INCArnate/with Immortal Beloveds, Ravenette,Urchin &
DarkHearts Tendencies
Check out BBFC Web site: http://www.benbassfanclub.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:57:02 +0000
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Get TV Shows on DVD!
Dear Friends,
I have just read and signed the online petition:
"Get TV Shows on DVD!"
hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/dvdtv/
I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.
Best wishes,
Kristin
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