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FORKNI-L Digest - 10 Sep 2000 to 11 Sep 2000 (#2000-284)

Mon, 11 Sep 2000

There are 10 messages totalling 319 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. forcefully moving (4)
  2. Update: Sony and TBWDNH
  3. Looking for a Story
  4. Fw: Is there still a chat night?
  5. TPTB listening to fans
  6. Nigel Update
  7. 3rd Season Dailies

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Date:    Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:12:07 CEST
From:    Simone Nicole Dornecker <moonwing@h.......>
Subject: forcefully moving

Xoom is mergin with NBC and by accident my account was swallowed
(!"$"$(/!!!!)
I lost anything I stored there

I have started to rebuild my site with crosswinds
so my ULR has changed from the old http://members.xoom.com/silvercat/FK.htm
to http://www.crosswinds.net/~darkscorpio/FKmain.htm

it is not much so far but I think I can rebuild it, given time

Simone
angry and annoyed that something like this can happen arrrrggg

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Date:    Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:13:18 +0000
From:    Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
Subject: Re: forcefully moving

Yes, I noticed this last night. Their ad is even more annoying now..grrr!! I
really want my own domain, maybe this Christmas...maybe...

My site still seems to be up, but if any one notices anything wrong, please
let me know.

Thanks,
Kristin
http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simone Nicole Dornecker" <moonwing@h.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:12 PM
Subject: forcefully moving

> Xoom is mergin with NBC and by accident my account was swallowed
> (!"$"$(/!!!!)
> I lost anything I stored there
>
> I have started to rebuild my site with crosswinds
> so my ULR has changed from the old http://members.xoom.com/silvercat/FK.htm
> to http://www.crosswinds.net/~darkscorpio/FKmain.htm
>
> it is not much so far but I think I can rebuild it, given time
>
> Simone
> angry and annoyed that something like this can happen arrrrggg

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Date:    Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:50:47 -0500
From:    Lauren <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: Re: forcefully moving

Ditto, my site is on xoom.com to.
 Lauren

----- Original Message -----
From: Kristin <kris1228@s.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: forcefully moving

> Yes, I noticed this last night. Their ad is even more annoying now..grrr!! I
> really want my own domain, maybe this Christmas...maybe...
>
> My site still seems to be up, but if any one notices anything wrong, please
> let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Kristin
> http://members.xoom.com/forever_nick/Forever_Knight
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simone Nicole Dornecker" <moonwing@h.......>
> To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:12 PM
> Subject: forcefully moving
>
>
> > Xoom is mergin with NBC and by accident my account was swallowed
> > (!"$"$(/!!!!)
> > I lost anything I stored there
> >
> > I have started to rebuild my site with crosswinds
> > so my ULR has changed from the old http://members.xoom.com/silvercat/FK.htm
> > to http://www.crosswinds.net/~darkscorpio/FKmain.htm
> >
> > it is not much so far but I think I can rebuild it, given time
> >
> > Simone
> > angry and annoyed that something like this can happen arrrrggg

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Date:    Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:38:43 -0500
From:    deb <totoq@r.......>
Subject: Re: forcefully moving

Did any of you other site owners at Xoom get any notification that NBCi
was gulping them down?

I think that really bites.  I'm lucky in that I have my site backed up
on my local drive, and I'm in the process of searching for a new
provider.

It was always semi-bad, but with the unlimited space it seemed worth
it.  I haven't even been able to get my site to come up in the last day,
so who knows ... arrrrgggghhhh ... I just know this is a master plan of
Gates ... where's a real life LaCroix when you need one ...

deb in KS
http://HorrorLit.com

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Date:    Mon, 11 Sep 2000 01:22:55 EDT
From:    JeanG477@a.......
Subject: Update: Sony and TBWDNH

(Un)Progress Report on the Book Sony Doesn't Want You to Read...

Within days of receiving a threat-ridden "cease and desist" order from Sony
Entertainment, I signed and sent to them an agreement stating that the
FOREVER KNIGHT novel ON HOLY GROUND was officially out of print and would not
be reprinted. I further stated that as the book had been sold at cost, there
were no proceeds and Sony was thus in absolutely no way harmed by this
fully-acknowledged infringement of its copyrights on FK.

22 days have now passed since Sony received this agreement, and there has
been no further communication from them. This is apparently typical of
studios who have served c&d orders on fanzines. Having rather thoroughly
researched this recently (!), I find a number of editors who were so served
-- but not a single one who was ever taken to court. There *are* court cases
wherein Sony has sued far bigger game, particularly CD & movie pirates and
software companies, for millions. One of the biggest -- Sony vs. Connectix
Game Co. -- recently went to court with 9 counts of copyright infringement
lobbied against the game co.  Big surprise -- Sony lost the lawsuit. (I'll
try not to feel too sorry for them.)

In light of cases like the above, a number of zine editors served with c&ds
by studios have recently been cheeky enough to defy the order, go on
publishing and dare the studio to do its worst. Alas, I am not one of these.
I will honor the signed agreement and stop printing and selling ON HOLY
GROUND. If, however, there are no further threats from Sony, I will in all
probability one day post the entire novel on my web site
(http://members.aol.com/JeanB7) along with the rest of my
fully-acknowledged-to-be-copyright-infringing fan fiction.

A kind soul in another state has offered to anonymously give away a few extra
copies of the novel in her possession in return for a charity pledge. (See
http://members.aol.com/brabant1228/howto.htm)  So, through one means or
another, ON HOLY GROUND will still be out there for fans to enjoy.

Please cross your fingers that nothing more will be heard on this from the
"friendly folks" at Sony, who are obviously clueless to the fact that
fanzines are actually *beneficial* to their intellectual properties.
Fanzines, and this book in particular, also happen to qualify under the "Fair
Use Doctrine" proviso of the US Copyright Code, which specifies material used
for "non-profit, educational purposes" as allowable (and non-prosecutable)
infringement.

So, while I don't begrudge Sony the right to protect its copyrights, swatting
fanzines is decidedly overkill, and not the best way to engender good
customer relations, either. Will I ever again be inclined to purchase
*anything* with Sony's corporate logo glued to it? Well, as a sage Monty
Pythoner once put it, "On that day, Satan shall ice skate to work."

Thank you all *very* much for your generous and caring support.

--Jean Graham

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Date:    Mon, 11 Sep 2000 04:45:42 EDT
From:    KWest37234@a.......
Subject: Re: Looking for a Story

 I remember reading a story several yrs. ago that involved Nat having been
beaten & everyone thought that Nick was responsible, going so far as an
investigation, a restraining order & alot of other stuff. Does anyone
remember the title &/or author?

      Kim-I can't get the story out of my mind

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Date:    Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:21:03 -0500
From:    wirickml <n.debrabant@g.......>
Subject: Fw: Is there still a chat night?

> Subject: Is there still a chat night?
>
>   .  Is there still a chat night for the Forever Knight room at
> > the sci-fi dominion thing?  I haven't been for about a year and every time
> > I sign on to check the room, it is woefully empty.
> >
>
> Don't know about Scifi, but there are several on Yahoo club sites.
> Morning and Knight time.
> Anytime you want.
> Try one out sometime.
> M.L. Wirick
> >
>

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Date:    Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:48:42 -0500
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: TPTB listening to fans

>  <<Sort of true.  The concept of Star Trek was revived in The Next Generation,
>>
> No, she's referring to the massive letter writing campaign in the 60's that
> brought Star Trek back for a third season, when it was scheduled for the ax
> at the end of the second.  Sound familiar?
        You probably do not want to know my age at the time of the original
StarTrek.
        Suffice to say, I am not enough of a Trekkie to know history
that old  :-)
        I didn't realize that there had been a campaign for the original
series.  I was familiar with the decision to revive the series as Next
Generation.

                        Tim

 Tim Phillips
 timp@d.......

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Date:    Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:39:28 -0400
From:    Mickey <wench@a.......>
Subject: Nigel Update

A news flash from Black Hat Productions:

For all you Nigel fans:
Top of the Food Chain will be released on video in the US in November 2000,
and will be featured on HBO about 6 months after that.

Annmarie
wench@a.......

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Date:    Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:47:52 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: 3rd Season Dailies

I'm interested in finding dailies for the third season. In particular,
those including Vachon. Anyone out there know where I might be able to
find them?

--
Cloud         <clouddancer@h.......>

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