There are 3 messages totaling 160 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. War: Here's how it would be (3) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:26:41 -0800 From: NytDreams <igatatsuwa@g.......> Subject: Re: War: Here's how it would be > > >However, there are others who feel strongly attached to their > >factions: in the last few wars, Libratsie has been the only > >Rat-Packer, and Alex the only Ravenette. I guess those names mean > >something to them. > > As Cousins means something to me. But real life has an annoying > habit of getting in the way. To be honest, I don't know if I can > work up the enthusiasm for going through it again. But for those who > can, more power to them. Yes, being a part of a faction is very important to some of us, as has been pointed out. Being a Vaquera means a lot to everyone who is one. The Vaqs would be up for a war at some point but many of us cannot do one right now, not even a quick one. One thing should be taken into consideration when talking about cutting back to such a short time as a 'weekend war.' When a War lasted a couple of weeks, those who could not play every night during a full War had a chance to poke their noses in at least a handful of days. Scaling back to just one or two nights will severely limit what is already a dwindling number of writers because many people don't have weekends off; we work all manner of shifts other than the standard 8-5 Mon-Fri. Weekends are also a chance to do a horrendous number of errands and chores that couldn't get done during the weekdays, keeping people busy much of the time and away from their computers. One change that had unforeseen problems, at least for the Vaqs, was the return of the lack of rules and free-for-all type of play. While some people have enjoyed the change, the Vaqs as a whole have found it quite frustrating, to put it mildly. The biggest stumbling block was the lack of permission needed in order to attack a faction, their HQ or their people. The last couple of wars in particular were incredibly difficult for the Vaqs to actively play in, or even leave our HQ at all because we never knew if it'd literally be standing or a pile of rubble when we returned. We'd really enjoy returning to just a modicum of rules for fair play and to give both factions in an attack a chance to agree, deny or plan alterations before an attack happens. Too often it has felt like our Wars have been written for us before we even got to write our first post, and our only option was to adopt a defensive position, fall back and parry for our lives. The Vaqueras ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 06:38:24 -0500 From: Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......> Subject: Re: War: Here's how it would be On Sun, 1 Feb 2015, Cousin Tok wrote: > It seems to me that the number of active writers has steadily > decreased. [...] If you define "active" as someone who writes other > than arrival/departure posts, you don't see a lot of us. There's a sad lot of truth in this. I've looked up a few statistics, though only from the past two wars because those are the ones where I've kept track. In the last couple of wars, the following factions have played: Cousins, Mercenaries, Nick & Nat Pack, Die-Hards, Knighties, Vaqueras, Ravenettes, Perks, and RatPackers. Plus independents, especially in War 15. The total number of people signing up to play: 40 in War 14, 43 in War 15. The total number of posts: 161 in War 14, 177 in War 15. Yeah, believe it or not, it actually went *up* slightly in the last war! Even so, those who played in the big wars of yesteryear will immediately point out that that's a *lot* fewer players than in the heyday of the fandom, when there were literally hundreds who signed up, and--in the very biggest wars--over 900 posts. (On the other hand, posts can be a lot longer now.) On the face of it, it looks as if "modern" wars simply scale down: fewer players, fewer factions. The real problem, though, comes when you scale down the number of *writers*. Because you're absolutely right: one needs to consider "active" players in terms of writers. A lot of players sign up in the expectation that they'll mostly be written by someone else. They may write one or two posts, i.e. their own arrival/departure. (In fact, if one were simply counting the number of people who write *anything*, it would be more than half.) Still, as you say, that's not the same as writing the attacks, the counterattacks, the crossovers, the parties, the chit-chat at faction HQ, or any of the other things that go to make up the bulk of war posts. That has always been done by a handful of scribes in each faction, or the few independents who are writing their own story arcs. In War 14, the bulk of the writing was done by 14 people, including the War Mistress. In War 15, there were 9 active writers. That's a big drop right there. You're right: most factions nowadays have only one really active writer. (The exception is the Vaqueras, who seem to have a fair amount of behind the scenes collaboration and at least two people who wrote actively in each of the last two wars.) In other factions, things are even more occasional. No doubt people intended to be more active when they signed up, but then found that things happened in RL that made it impossible: work, family, illness, or the like. Once upon a time, if someone suddenly had to drop out, there's be someone else in their faction who could pick up in their place. That simply isn't true now. I've thought for a while that, in some ways, what we need is a sort of "Guide to War in the 21st Century". Because "War 101", fascinating though it is, doesn't really fit the current situation. Greer gwatson2@r....... http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:37:35 -0800 From: Liz the Lucky <lizthelucky@c.......> Subject: Re: War: Here's how it would be It occurred to me last night that I have the perfect reason for everyone to gather in Toronto in May. This Memorial Day marks the twenty-five anniversary of when I first when into the hospital with what it was eventually decided was Granulomatosis with Polyangyitis. At the time, 99% of the diagnoses came during autopsy. I say that is something that deserves celebrating, and what better way than to head to To for a big ol' party with all my listsibs? Sucks that it can't be for real, but still. Can anyone think of a better excuse? Hugs and Kisses, Liz the Lucky lizthelucky@c....... https://twitter.com/lizthelucky Merc House Mom ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 2 Feb 2015 to 4 Feb 2015 (#2015-16) ************************************************************
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