FORKNI-L
Digest - 24 Aug 2013 to 25 Aug 2013 (#2013-134)
Sun, 25 Aug 2013
There are 8 messages totaling 228 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Series Finale: Interpretation (3)
2. LaCroix's Conversion Day (3)
3. Oops <McLisa hangs head>
4. Date of LC's conversion
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:59:20 -0700
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Series Finale: Interpretation
From: "James Mender"
> And that brings up another chew toy of a topic. By the end of the series,
> the metaphysics of the series was all over the map: Christian ideas of
> damnation of the soul (with an actual demon), reincarnation of the soul,
> ghosts, the power of faith, the power of love (too much Huey Lewis?), etc.
This is what came from having no "book". The writers were all over the
place and no one reined them in. In a way, I kind of like the freedom
that this allows: fan fiction knows no bounds! On the other hand, it gets
inconsistent and sloppy really fast.
>
> Anyway, I'm curious as to what the list thinks about the different
> metaphysical choices. If Nick and Nat *did* die, which would you prefer:
Didn't happen. Series ended with the reincarnation thing.
Or, that's the way I want to interpret it.
But, as to happily ever after, if the principals finally get together,
the series is over. The drama is in the conflict between them and
what they want.
Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:58:43 -0700
From: Bonnie <callalily@l.......>
Subject: LaCroix's Conversion Day
Somewhere LaCroix is sitting, alone, sipping on a Bloody (girl named) Mary,
and silently cursing every Cousin who forgot that one-thousand nine-hundred
thirty-four years ago today (or maybe it was yesterday) Mt Vesuvius began to
erupt and Divia officially became a pain in the neck.
Somewhere in the C.E.R.K. lobby, there's a Post-It Note with the message:
"No one is here to see LaCroix"
Bonnie
callalily@l.......
P.S. Vachon says "hi"
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 22:06:00 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@p.......>
Subject: Re: Series Finale: Interpretation
I've always liked the series having no "book." It made it different
from any other series. It made it more like poetry than a narrative.
There was freedom to do what was needed for each episode, and yet the
whole thing fits together pretty well, for me at least. (Except for
that last episode, of course.)
Margie
On 8/24/2013 4:59 PM, Walt Doherty wrote:
> This is what came from having no "book". The writers were all over the
> place and no one reined them in. In a way, I kind of like the freedom
> that this allows: fan fiction knows no bounds! On the other hand, it gets
> inconsistent and sloppy really fast.
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:18:58 -0400
From: James Mender <jamesmender@g.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix's Conversion Day
Actually, Pliny the Younger described the Vesuvian eruption as occurring on
24 August, in what is now known as the Christian year A.D. 79, However,
Pliny was using the Julian calendar while we use the Gregorian calendar.
Therefore, based on a converter I found, the eruption of Vesuvius was
actually on 22 August A.D. 79 Gregorian, so we actually missed it by
several days.
Sorry, General. Maybe next year.
~ James, who has too much time on his hands (pun intended)
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Bonnie <callalily@l.......> wrote:
> Somewhere LaCroix is sitting, alone, sipping on a Bloody (girl named) Mary,
> and silently cursing every Cousin who forgot that one-thousand nine-hundred
> thirty-four years ago today (or maybe it was yesterday) Mt Vesuvius began
> to
> erupt and Divia officially became a pain in the neck.
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:51:29 -0400
From: L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix's Conversion Day
On 8/25/13, James Mender <jamesmender@g.......> wrote:
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> Poster: James Mender <jamesmender@g.......>
> Subject: Re: LaCroix's Conversion Day
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>
> Actually, Pliny the Younger described the Vesuvian eruption as occurring on
> 24 August, in what is now known as the Christian year A.D. 79, However,
> Pliny was using the Julian calendar while we use the Gregorian calendar.
> Therefore, based on a converter I found, the eruption of Vesuvius was
> actually on 22 August A.D. 79 Gregorian, so we actually missed it by
> several days.
> Sorry, General. Maybe next year.
>
> ~ James, who has too much time on his hands (pun intended)
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Bonnie <callalily@l.......> wrote:
>
>> Somewhere LaCroix is sitting, alone, sipping on a Bloody (girl named)
>> Mary,
>> and silently cursing every Cousin who forgot that one-thousand
>> nine-hundred
>> thirty-four years ago today (or maybe it was yesterday) Mt Vesuvius began
>> to
>> erupt and Divia officially became a pain in the neck.
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:51:55 -0400
From: L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......>
Subject: Re: Series Finale: Interpretation
On 8/24/13, Margie Hammet <treeleaf@p.......> wrote:
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> Poster: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@p.......>
> Subject: Re: Series Finale: Interpretation
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I've always liked the series having no "book." It made it different
> from any other series. It made it more like poetry than a narrative.
> There was freedom to do what was needed for each episode, and yet the
> whole thing fits together pretty well, for me at least. (Except for
> that last episode, of course.)
>
> Margie
>
> On 8/24/2013 4:59 PM, Walt Doherty wrote:
>
>> This is what came from having no "book". The writers were all over the
>> place and no one reined them in. In a way, I kind of like the freedom
>> that this allows: fan fiction knows no bounds! On the other hand, it
>> gets
>> inconsistent and sloppy really fast.
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:53:29 -0400
From: L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......>
Subject: Oops <McLisa hangs head>
I didn't mean to send that last post, consiting solely of a post and
response, to the list.ISorry.
McLisa
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:07:13 -0400
From: L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......>
Subject: Date of LC's conversion
First, yes, I havf read Pliny the Younger's account, in translation.
The Aug. 29th date is standard historyand not subject to correction
according to post-classical convention. Pliny would have given the
date in Latin in the Roman system, as so many days before or after the
Kalends, or Ides or whatever of August. Yes, the unadjusted calendar
which was getting out of sync with the calendar to the point of
requiring correction is called Julian, but what the Roman senate did
under Julius Caesar did was to fix a standard length of the the year.
Unfotunately the length wasn't quite right, and made the calendar need
a number of days removed by the 16th century when Pope Gregory so
decreed. Note that Protestant states and Russia refused to adopt the
Gergorian calendar at the time because it was papal. They changed at
different periods: Russia did not do so until after the revolution.
The Russian Orthodox Church is still on Gregorian for religious dates.
However, the adjustment from the Julian to the Gregorian requires
taking into consideration the year in which the calculation is made.
By now, the 21st c., 13 days have to be subtracted from the Gregorian
date. Hence, no change is made for ancient dates.
McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble."
listowner, Forkni-l & Fkfic-l
mclisa1014@g.......
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