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Digest - 24 Jun 2013 to 25 Jun 2013 (#2013-95)

Tue, 25 Jun 2013

There are 3 messages totaling 175 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Archive access
  2. Wiki article on War 14
  3. Admin: War next January?

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Date:    Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:21:38 -0400
From:    stephke@i.......
Subject: Archive access

If  you are having trouble accessing the archive because you are getting a
"403" error I need you to email me directly at stephke@i........  That
means I have blocked your IP address because I have been getting a lot of
spam from your network.  (No you can't control it.). An IP address is like
a street address. If you live in Los Angeles you will not have the same
address as some one in Paris.  That means that if you can access the
archive from your pc it doesn't do any good to send me an email trying to
help someone else if that someone else is having a problem. They need to
email me directly.

Steph

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Date:    Tue, 25 Jun 2013 02:47:25 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Wiki article on War 14

With discussion of war in the air (if only for next year), I have finally
been impelled to get around to finishing the wiki article on War 14.  I
worked on it for several weeks after the war was over; but then the "buzz"
wore off, and other things beckoned me elsewhere.  It's pretty well finished
now, though, barring edits and corrections.  Those who are curious can find
it here:  http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/FKWar_14

The top of the page contains the fairly succinct, factual stuff:  who was
playing, how long it lasted, and so on.

Then, in the middle, you have a summary of the story, as it was told in the
war posts.  It's not quite day to day, though it *is* subdivided into
sections.  Instead, I made some attempt at organizing it into a coherent
narrative.  People who participated might like to take a look and make sure
I didn't leave out any significant events, especially those particular to
their faction.   (You can go straight to the Synopsis here:
http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/FKWar_14#Synopsis )

Finally, at the bottom, is a long--perhaps overly long--discussion of the
behind-the-scenes events.  All wars have them, and they can get fraught.
However, I think most people who took part in War 14 will agree that it got
particularly difficult at times.  Having been a player, and also having
corresponded with the War Mistress afterwards, I've tried to see both sides
of what went on.  *And* I've tried a bit of analysis (for what that's
worth).  Anyway, you can find that here:
http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/FKWar_14#Behind_the_Scenes

Just in case anyone is curious:  no, I do not know who the War Mistress was.
Our correspondence was through the e-mail account she set up for the war.


Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/


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Date:    Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:37:19 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: War next January?

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:50:09, McLisa wrote:

> I'm going to insist that if we do this, it's going to
> be the original kind of war where people humoorously
> attack each other. Of course this will mean that
> attackers and attackees will have to have permission
> slips on file, .other than that, no plot and no w.m.

You know, Lisa, you said this *last* time.  Actually, if you think about it,
each of the wars has had a plot.  It's just that the first few wars were all
bound up with the rivalry between the factions, especially the Cousins and
Knighties.

I mean, War One may have started more or less spontaneously; but, if you
wanted to, you could still summarize a "war premise" for it.  "Responding to
the discovery that some FK fans prefer other characters, Lacroix orders his
followers to "persuade" everyone to join the Cousins.  They decide to start
with the Knighties...."

That's as much a plot as any other.  It's just that, in the early wars, the
plots didn't involve a map, or stolen notebooks, or characters suddenly
swapping bodies.

I appreciate that you yearn for days of yore.  Do people still feel that
level of rivalry today, though?  I mean, there's a reason why the wars
shifted to a different sort of plot.  It's because the inter-faction
rivalries turned into a game.

One advantage of picking a plot is that it gets things going.  Consider the
start of the last war.  Yes, I agree, War 14 was about as far from a success
as one can imagine.  But consider what its opening days would have been like
*without* any plot.  People wrote their getting-to-Toronto posts, and then
just...waited.  Everyone seemed to want to respond to someone else's
actions.  Basically, they were waiting for the first attack; but the trouble
is that, when *everyone* is waiting for someone else to attack, then there's
no action at all!

Just think of this happening:

        (FAN A stumbles into the faction HQ, dropping a too-heavy suitcase
that just misses FAN B's toes.)

FAN A:  So, here we are.  Twenty years, wow!
FAN B:  I know.  Hard to believe, isn't it?

        (FAN A opens the case and takes out her medication.  FAN B goes and
gets a glass of water.  FAN A takes her pills.)

FAN A:  So what're we going to do?
FAN B:  Wait for someone to attack us, I guess.
FAN A:  Who?
FAN B:  Well, we'll find out when it happens.

        (That evening.  No one else has shown up...yet.)

FAN A:  What're we going to do now?
FAN B:  Wait for the mid-war party?
FAN A:  Who's doing that this time?
FAN B:  Gee, I dunno.
FAN A:  Anyway, that's next weekend.
FAN B:  Yeah, we've got days yet.

        (Two days later.)

FAN A:  Maybe *we* should attack *them*?
FAN B:  Okay.  (pause) Attack who?
FAN A:  Gee, I dunno.

(Next day...all quit out of boredom.  End of war, end of Wars.)


"Another choreographed war"?   No, I don't want a war that involves some
micro-managed clue-solving treasure-hunt, or the like.  In fact, I'd much
rather not!

However, if you cast your mind back *further* than last January--say to War
13--then a lot of fun can be had out of a few pairs of lost socks.


Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/


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