FORKNI-L
Digest - 14 May 2013 to 15 May 2013 (#2013-65)
Wed, 15 May 2013
There are 3 messages totalling 239 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. FK Season 3 vs. S1 & S2: one fan's perspective (2)
2. Der Vampircop Staffel 3 DVD?
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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:36:59 -0700
From: Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......>
Subject: FK Season 3 vs. S1 & S2: one fan's perspective
I sent this last week (at time of resending today 5/14) but it appears
list glitches prevented it from posting. Trying again, with apologies
for the dumb typos, and hope no one takes seriously what is obviously
written in jest.
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Thank you Tim & Andrew for your input. My email was long enough so I
could not explain that I pretty much came to FK during S3. So I have
the opposite perspective. The show really grabbed me and left me
spellbound & speechless week after week. I thought the entire
production was out-of-this-world top of the line, (yes, lame
adjectives but words categorically fail me here) the characters
compelling and the acting of high caliber considering the topic..
"Vampire cop, are you kidding me?!? I don't watch that..!" ;-)
To date, I have never seen a show that comes close, with the exception
perhaps of... (and, I'll speak for everyone because, yes, I am that
arrogant I think everyone will agree here...and some, I know, will
think it's even superior) ...with the exception of FK S1 and S2! :-P
The year was 2002 when I turned on Sci Fi while I was getting ready
for work late one morning (I was working afternoons to late eves
then) and on my screen was none other but good ole Nick Knight
getting a shot... collapsing... then going out in the sunlight.. he
was finally cured! Work? What work?! Who cares! I sat on the edge of
my bed and was riveted during that entire episode. "They went there?
no way!" I could not believe what I was seeing. First time I saw
Schanke, (who is this dude?? What have they done with my Tracy??) I
was blown away!!! That scene at the restaurant when Nick is scarfing
down the mafioso's spaghetti... ("Do you want to eat?" "No thanks!"
*dips bread in sauce & chows down*) Ger had me in stitches, and I
didn't know his name was John Kapelos but I loved him right then and
there! I don't know who was more excellent in the scene, the back &
forth banter was priceless. The gentleman who played the mafioso was
perfect too. I love that scene! One of my favorite episodes ever...
LaCroix spurting out "You will always be mine... eternally..!" as the
smoke threatens to imminently turn him to ashes.... (going from memory
here, forgive me if it's not verbatim) Of course, it was The Fix and I
was transfixed! And I forgot all about Tracy just like I forget all
about Schanke whenever she takes over. I love them both the same for
different reasons.
If anyone is wondering, I got to work on time, with a big goofy grin
on my face! From then on, I would tape all the episodes every day
before leaving and watch them circa 11-11:30pm at night, perfect time
to watch FK! It was back. I was back! Me, my VCR/TV combo, pitch
darkness in the dead of night and my favorite show as only friend. I
don't want to get all melodramatic how this show helped me cope with
stuff I was dealing with at the time but let's just say that for one
hour every night, I came alive, I no longer felt like the proverbial
outsider looking in: I was no longer "undead" yet more proud to belong
to their undead family than my own; if only in my mind, for that brief
period where time stood still for only me, I was one of them too. I
was office worker by day, closeted hard-core vampire cop fan by night.
I had/have never been this engrossed with characters, never been more
into a show, never before identified with themes they presented in
such spectacular fashion night after night.. or should I say Knight
after Knight.---
----Another thrilling episode, for me, is when Nat first
meets Nick in those flashbacks in Only The Lonely! It was a dream come
true that all these questions I had in the late 90's after Last
Knight were finally being answered. It was like they read my mind
time-travel fashion and made this episode for only me. Something like
that. (If anyone wonders why I never looked it up in detail, I didn't
know what the internet was till 2001 and was only online for a brief
period then and busy with other stuff, then not online again for
ages).
Anyway, sorry for rambling on silly like this. But thank you for
allowing me this trip down memory lane. In conclusion S3 will always
have a special place in my heart but I know I missed out on a lot not
having found this show at its inception. This will always be one of my
biggest regrets, however it came back to me at the perfect time in
2002. As much as I adore the intense episodes of S3 (Knight in
Question; Dead of Night...), some of my favorite are in S1 & S2. If
you'd ask me which is my favorite season, I honestly don't know but I
tend to be faithful to things that came first, and for me S3 was
first. But I adore Schanke and at some point ("Blind Faith") I hated
LaCroix so much, my favorite episodes were the S1 ones where he
doesn't appear... until I watch my favorite ones and he's always
there, menacing, evil, loathsome...and yet compelling and
compassionate in his own way with his "undying" love for Nick. Yes,
this show is high caliber for many more reasons than I could ever try
to put into words without probably boring the list to tears about
stuff you yourselves, no doubt, discussed back in the 90's. But for
me it was really like I "discovered America" then. Uh... my
apologies, CANADA! (In fact, that's when my passion for Canada
started.) :-)
I think a rewatch is in order... soon!
Otto
PS: A bit late, but I want to add my condolences to Libby & group ref.
Mr. Greg Kramer. It is clear that Libby was blessed in knowing such a
creative soul, and I look forward to reading any memories you might
feel like sharing with all of us. Beyond FK, I didn't know much about
him but one thing is apparent from what I have perused since: he was
well loved among his peers & fans alike. R.I.P, eternally, Mr. Kramer
and thank you for the memories.
.
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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:03:26 -0700
From: Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......>
Subject: Der Vampircop Staffel 3 DVD?
Would anyone happen to know or have any indication when we can expect
the release of FK S3 in German(y)? Or is that it?
Does anyone know if the German version for S3 has scenes we don't have
in our Region 1 DVDs? (Sorry if it's been discussed already)
Thanks!
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Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 18:32:51 -0700
From: Jeannie <nickismom1228@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Season 3 vs. S1 & S2: one fan's perspective
I really enjoyed your enthusiasm. I watch a couple of episodes when the shoe
came on new. Late night tv. Scared me too much lol. Years later I caught parts
of it in the mornings before Dark Shadows my favorite show from the late 60s
and 70's. I really started to like it. It must have been season 3 because when
Last Night Played I freaked and did run to the Internet only to find that was
the end. I did finally see all of them and wrote fanfiction under the name
Gersknightlady. :)
Jeannie
On May 14, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Otto Maton <auto17921111@h.......> wrote:
> I sent this last week (at time of resending today 5/14) but it appears
> list glitches prevented it from posting. Trying again, with apologies
> for the dumb typos, and hope no one takes seriously what is obviously
> written in jest.
> --------------------------------------
> Thank you Tim & Andrew for your input. My email was long enough so I
> could not explain that I pretty much came to FK during S3. So I have
> the opposite perspective. The show really grabbed me and left me
> spellbound & speechless week after week. I thought the entire
> production was out-of-this-world top of the line, (yes, lame
> adjectives but words categorically fail me here) the characters
> compelling and the acting of high caliber considering the topic..
> "Vampire cop, are you kidding me?!? I don't watch that..!" ;-)
>
> To date, I have never seen a show that comes close, with the exception
> perhaps of... (and, I'll speak for everyone because, yes, I am that
> arrogant I think everyone will agree here...and some, I know, will
> think it's even superior) ...with the exception of FK S1 and S2! :-P
> The year was 2002 when I turned on Sci Fi while I was getting ready
> for work late one morning (I was working afternoons to late eves
> then) and on my screen was none other but good ole Nick Knight
> getting a shot... collapsing... then going out in the sunlight.. he
> was finally cured! Work? What work?! Who cares! I sat on the edge of
> my bed and was riveted during that entire episode. "They went there?
> no way!" I could not believe what I was seeing. First time I saw
> Schanke, (who is this dude?? What have they done with my Tracy??) I
> was blown away!!! That scene at the restaurant when Nick is scarfing
> down the mafioso's spaghetti... ("Do you want to eat?" "No thanks!"
> *dips bread in sauce & chows down*) Ger had me in stitches, and I
> didn't know his name was John Kapelos but I loved him right then and
> there! I don't know who was more excellent in the scene, the back &
> forth banter was priceless. The gentleman who played the mafioso was
> perfect too. I love that scene! One of my favorite episodes ever...
> LaCroix spurting out "You will always be mine... eternally..!" as the
> smoke threatens to imminently turn him to ashes.... (going from memory
> here, forgive me if it's not verbatim) Of course, it was The Fix and I
> was transfixed! And I forgot all about Tracy just like I forget all
> about Schanke whenever she takes over. I love them both the same for
> different reasons.
>
> If anyone is wondering, I got to work on time, with a big goofy grin
> on my face! From then on, I would tape all the episodes every day
> before leaving and watch them circa 11-11:30pm at night, perfect time
> to watch FK! It was back. I was back! Me, my VCR/TV combo, pitch
> darkness in the dead of night and my favorite show as only friend. I
> don't want to get all melodramatic how this show helped me cope with
> stuff I was dealing with at the time but let's just say that for one
> hour every night, I came alive, I no longer felt like the proverbial
> outsider looking in: I was no longer "undead" yet more proud to belong
> to their undead family than my own; if only in my mind, for that brief
> period where time stood still for only me, I was one of them too. I
> was office worker by day, closeted hard-core vampire cop fan by night.
> I had/have never been this engrossed with characters, never been more
> into a show, never before identified with themes they presented in
> such spectacular fashion night after night.. or should I say Knight
> after Knight.---
>
> ----Another thrilling episode, for me, is when Nat first
> meets Nick in those flashbacks in Only The Lonely! It was a dream come
> true that all these questions I had in the late 90's after Last
> Knight were finally being answered. It was like they read my mind
> time-travel fashion and made this episode for only me. Something like
> that. (If anyone wonders why I never looked it up in detail, I didn't
> know what the internet was till 2001 and was only online for a brief
> period then and busy with other stuff, then not online again for
> ages).
>
> Anyway, sorry for rambling on silly like this. But thank you for
> allowing me this trip down memory lane. In conclusion S3 will always
> have a special place in my heart but I know I missed out on a lot not
> having found this show at its inception. This will always be one of my
> biggest regrets, however it came back to me at the perfect time in
> 2002. As much as I adore the intense episodes of S3 (Knight in
> Question; Dead of Night...), some of my favorite are in S1 & S2. If
> you'd ask me which is my favorite season, I honestly don't know but I
> tend to be faithful to things that came first, and for me S3 was
> first. But I adore Schanke and at some point ("Blind Faith") I hated
> LaCroix so much, my favorite episodes were the S1 ones where he
> doesn't appear... until I watch my favorite ones and he's always
> there, menacing, evil, loathsome...and yet compelling and
> compassionate in his own way with his "undying" love for Nick. Yes,
> this show is high caliber for many more reasons than I could ever try
> to put into words without probably boring the list to tears about
> stuff you yourselves, no doubt, discussed back in the 90's. But for
> me it was really like I "discovered America" then. Uh... my
> apologies, CANADA! (In fact, that's when my passion for Canada
> started.) :-)
>
> I think a rewatch is in order... soon!
> Otto
> PS: A bit late, but I want to add my condolences to Libby & group ref.
> Mr. Greg Kramer. It is clear that Libby was blessed in knowing such a
> creative soul, and I look forward to reading any memories you might
> feel like sharing with all of us. Beyond FK, I didn't know much about
> him but one thing is apparent from what I have perused since: he was
> well loved among his peers & fans alike. R.I.P, eternally, Mr. Kramer
> and thank you for the memories.
> .
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