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Digest - 2 May 2013 to 3 May 2013 (#2013-55)

Fri, 3 May 2013
 
There are 7 messages totalling 248 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight (7)

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Date:    Thu, 2 May 2013 18:53:08 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight

At 02:14 PM 5/2/2013, Greer wrote:

>Thank you for posting this, Allison.  Oldtimers may remember what Nigel
>said; but it's not something I've ever read before.

I don't remember reading Nigel's thoughts "live", but I do recall 
seeing him at Syndicon in May 1997. At that time, his big *wink* 
*wink* was that we saw him raise the staff and start the strike move 
-- but we never saw it actually go through Nick...

The idea was that Lacroix would not kill Nick, except in self-defense.

Of course, we all used that "never saw it go through" as the basis 
for our Virtual Fourth Season, as well as a number individual 
writers' post-LK fiction series.


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Date:    Thu, 2 May 2013 16:06:05 -0700
From:    Allison <smilewithviolets@y.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight

Sorry the quotes and commas didn't work properly. :)

I never considered NBs last thought where he says Nick regained his humanity 
at the end and that's why LC had to let him go. It makes a lot of sense and 
it's great to have a fresh perspective (in my mind) after so many years. 
Something to consider, as I'm going to be watching the show with someone who's 
never seen it!


Allison
unnamed cousin
smilewithviolets@y.......

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Date:    Thu, 2 May 2013 19:11:50 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight

NB's perceptions are new and refreshing tome, and
make a lot of sense actually.

My own perspective is that LK was Part I of an
end of the season cliff-hanger, and the first episode
of the new season would be the Part II conclusion,
where it would be sorted out as to what "really"
happened and who survived and how.  Unfotunately,
the new season with its cliff-hanger conclusion never
happened.  :-(

Still, the way it went has given rise to a heck of a lot
of rather good fiction carrying on the stories in
many several different ways, each interesting in
their own ways.

    W


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allison" <smilewithviolets@y.......>

> I never considered NBs last thought where he says Nick regained his 
> humanity at the end and that's why LC had to let him go. It makes a lot of 
> sense and it's great to have a fresh perspective (in my mind) after so 
> many years. Something to consider, as I'm going to be watching the show 
> with someone who's never seen it!
>



Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ 

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Date:    Thu, 2 May 2013 19:35:10 -0700
From:    Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight

On Thu, 2 May 2013 19:11:50 -0700 Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
writes:
> 
> My own perspective is that LK was Part I of an
> end of the season cliff-hanger, and the first episode
> of the new season would be the Part II conclusion,
> where it would be sorted out as to what "really"
> happened and who survived and how.  Unfotunately,
> the new season with its cliff-hanger conclusion never
> happened.  :-(
==================================

Don't ya just HATE Network execs????


> Still, the way it went has given rise to a heck of a lot
> of rather good fiction carrying on the stories in
> many several different ways, each interesting in
> their own ways.
> 
>     W
===========================================
Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date:    Fri, 3 May 2013 00:59:24 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight

Yeah!  From what I understand, USA bought FK
because of its success in syndication.  Then they
immediately set about changing it.  Go figure.

   Walt

From: "Andrew Caruthers" <slinter@j.......>
Unfotunately,
>> the new season with its cliff-hanger conclusion never
>> happened.  :-(
> ==================================
> 
> Don't ya just HATE Network execs????
> 
> 

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Date:    Fri, 3 May 2013 01:09:50 -0700
From:    Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight

Sounds like the fate of many shows. Too many cooks...



On Fri, 3 May 2013 00:59:24 -0700 Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
writes:
> Yeah!  From what I understand, USA bought FK
> because of its success in syndication.  Then they
> immediately set about changing it.  Go figure.
> 
>    Walt
> 
> From: "Andrew Caruthers" <slinter@j.......>
>  Unfotunately,
> >> the new season with its cliff-hanger conclusion never
> >> happened.  :-(
> > ==================================
> > 
> > Don't ya just HATE Network execs????
> > 
> > 

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Date:    Fri, 3 May 2013 12:46:15 -0400
From:    L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett's thoughts on Last Knight

On 5/2/13, Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......> wrote:



> My own perspective is that LK was Part I of an
> end of the season cliff-hanger,.

If only! Actually, the show was definitely cancelled.  At the time I
couldn't say this on list, but the fact is, the makers of Highlander
were concerned that: (a) FK was cutting into their ratings in some
markets where they competed. (b) USA wasabout to push FK hard. They'd
originally had Ger set to do promotional appearacnes at the national
association of tv programmers, and merchandise to go with this. Anyone
have the reports from the six list members who went to Vegas to lobby
for the show? I have one of the mugs that was being distributed (black
glaze, show name, and a mite mark out of the rim), courtesy of one of
them,

The makers of Highlander essentially blackmailed USA, threatening to
pull Highlander and its reruns unless FK was cancelled. USA caved,
then was unpleasantly surprised by the mail and email campaign from
the fans. It was huge, much bigger than they expected.

The cliff-hanger effect is not in the original script. I have a copy
somewhere.  We were to see the stake come down, and cut to the sun
coming up stock footage, with a voiceover by Nigel of the Romeo and
Juliet prince's speech at the end, ("A glooming peace .... Go hence to
have much speech of this.") Everybody was definitely dead, except LC
and the captain. Ger, who was directing, took out everything after
"damn you, Nicholas!" and the stake starting to descend. We weren't
allowed to see it, but Catherine Disher moved after Nat was on the
floor, to make it clear she wasn't dead.

James Parriot, who had written the script, found out and put it back
in. This happened two or three times,  Then JP got on a plane to
Toronto to make sure Ger filmed it as written.

On the final night of shooting, someone woke up somone high enough in
rank at Sony to overrule JP. We've never known who. I have wondered if
it was Ger, but again, I don't know. So we got the episode as shown.
Sony's reason was that shows with known downer endings don't so well
in later syndication.

McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble."
listowner, Forkni-l & Fkfic-l
mclisa1014@g.......

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