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Digest - 21 Sep 2012 to 22 Sep 2012 (#2012-182)

Sat, 22 Sep 2012

There are 7 messages totalling 417 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. My computer being hacked (3)
  2. Asking for an explanation, please (3)
  3. Sent by mistake

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Date:    Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:48:00 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: My computer being hacked

Actually, Greer, it's fairly interesting in a morbid sort of way.
We've all gone through something similar, and, as the saying
goes, misery loves company.  Anyway, it may provide a
warning for us by letting us know just what sort of weird
thing happened to you.

In addition, this could be a good opportunity to develop
an FK story about Nick, Lacroix, or others dealing with
computers, computer glitches, and outright computer
hacking.  Hmmmmmm, would the enforcers keep records
on computers?

Best of luck with the computer.

    WaltD



----- Original Message -----
From: "Greer Watson" <gwatson2@r.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 4:25 AM
Subject: My computer being hacked


> McLisa's computer guy turns out to be her brother.  He turned up well after
> midnight, and then spent a lot of time going through my computer.
> Fortunately, he decided that he didn't need to take it away with him.
>
> He's copied some stuff onto a flashdrive.  (Actually, he called it a USB
> drive, and other people call it a thumbstick, or a data stick; so I hope you
> all know what I mean.)  He tried to explain what he'd found; and no doubt
> there are those on list who'd make perfect sense of it.  Anyway, he's taken
> it away with him to analyze.
>
> I'm heading off to bed.  I stay up late, I know; but not usually this late.
>
>
> Greer
>
> (P.S.  I know writing this doesn't break list rules, since we can post about
> personal things in our lives.  But I also know it's got to be boring you,
> and I'm sorry.)
>
> gwatson2@r.......
> http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
>
>

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Date:    Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:41:15 -0700
From:    Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: My computer being hacked

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:48:00 -0700 Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
writes:
> hacking.  Hmmmmmm, would the enforcers keep records
> on computers?
=======================================
Nope. They'd get hacked by The Fearless Vampire Killers!!!!


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Date:    Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:01:39 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: My computer being hacked

Well, McLisa's brother, Larry, came a bit earlier tonight--for which I'm
glad, since I *really* couldn't pull a second all-nighter.  I've got a
singing lesson at 1pm today (which sounds trivial, I know, but I do want to
be awake for it).

He's had a look at the data he copied last night.  The code indicates the
area of my computer that the hacker was going for  Also, he backtracked them
through various proxy servers--which, for once, is a bit of computer jargon
that was familiar from TV (Criminal Minds and Numb3rs), at least up to the
point where he actually started talking in detail, at which point he lost me
entirely.

He told me who's responsible.  So now I have to decide what to do.
It's...complicated...and I don't want to talk about it on list until I've
made up my mind.


Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org


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Date:    Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:14:48 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Asking for an explanation, please

Dear Mildred,

I expect, in the circumstances, you've been following FORKNI-L quite closely
to see what I've been posting.  You therefore know that McLisa asked her
brother to help me find out who it was who recently attempted to access my
computer without permission.

He has informed me that, by backtracking traces left on my computer, he was
able to locate the computer from which the hacking attempt was made; and
that he also discovered the location and owner.  It is your computer,
Mildred; and I conclude therefore that it is you who are responsible.  He
says the code indicates that you were trying to access graphics files on my
computer.

I am distressed by this discovery.

I do realize that you are the Grand High Pooh-bah of the Forever Knight
Mercenary Guild, and that *during war* you and your fellows do engage in
such activities.  That comes within the legitimate purview of your faction.
However, this is not war; this is real life.  This isn't my fictional
computer; it's my real computer.

I am therefore on the horns of a dilemma.  On the one hand, you are a fellow
Forever Knight fan and list member.  On the other hand, you have engaged in
an illegal activity, and I should call the police.  At the very least, I
should tell Lisa and Don.

Before I do anything so drastic, though, I am writing you for an
explanation.


Yours truly,

Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/


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Date:    Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:16:59 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Sent by mistake

Oh, no!  I hit the wrong address.  That letter to Mildred was *not* supposed
to go to the list.

Please disregard it.


Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/


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Date:    Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:14:08 -0400
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Asking for an explanation, please

Greer,

I know that you didn't mean to send this to the list, but it gives me a
chance to respond and explain a bit.  Also, to explain to others on the
list.

Do not necessarily blame Mildred for doing this on purpose even if it
were just graphic files it looks like her computer was trying to
access.  Mildred's computer itself has probably been hacked.  I wish I
could see that code.  Just because Mildred's computer was trying to
connect to your computer does not mean that she was doing it.

What she should be blamed for is not keeping her antivirus up to date
and not having a firewall or at least not having it configured
properly.  Also, this tells me your computer needs to have a firewall
installed/configured.  There are a**h**es out there that continually try
to hack computers.  If I turn on my  notification for my firewall, I am
notified sometimes hundred times a day that someone is trying to hack
into my computer.  They are looking for an in to find passwords, to send
spam from your computer, etc.

Mildred,  Please have someone look at your pc.  If you are doing this on
purpose someone could file a report with the police.

On that note.  I would be able to figure out how to hack into someone's
computer just from the information in the header of the email that is
sent out.  I had one guy regularly trying to hack into my computer.
From the information I got from my firewall I was able to hack into his
computer and find out his name,email address, snail mail address and
telephone number. I sent him an email and told him to stop or I would
call the police.  I had one guy spoofing an email address I used for my
richardbasehart.com web site.  I found out who he was and told him to
stop.  He in essence laughed at me and told me I wouldn't be able to
find out who he was.  I immediately sent him his name, email address,
snail mail address and telephone #.  He stopped immediately.

Note for the people who don't know me.  I am a network, security, email
,web administrator.

Steph

On 9/22/2012 5:14 AM, Greer Watson wrote:
> Dear Mildred'
>
> I expect, in the circumstances, you've been following FORKNI-L quite closely
> to see what I've been posting.  You therefore know that McLisa asked her
> brother to help me find out who it was who recently attempted to access my
> computer without permission.
>
> He has informed me that, by backtracking traces left on my computer, he was
> able to locate the computer from which the hacking attempt was made; and
> that he also discovered the location and owner.  It is your computer,
> Mildred; and I conclude therefore that it is you who are responsible.  He
> says the code indicates that you were trying to access graphics files on my
> computer.
>
> I am distressed by this discovery.
>
> I do realize that you are the Grand High Pooh-bah of the Forever Knight
> Mercenary Guild, and that *during war* you and your fellows do engage in
> such activities.  That comes within the legitimate purview of your faction.
> However, this is not war; this is real life.  This isn't my fictional
> computer; it's my real computer.
>
> I am therefore on the horns of a dilemma.  On the one hand, you are a fellow
> Forever Knight fan and list member.  On the other hand, you have engaged in
> an illegal activity, and I should call the police.  At the very least, I
> should tell Lisa and Don.
>
> Before I do anything so drastic, though, I am writing you for an
> explanation.
>
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Greer
>
> gwatson2@r.......
> http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
>

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Date:    Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:46:25 -0400
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Asking for an explanation, please

I should have added....Ok everyone.  Look at your own computer.  Is your
antivirus up to date?  Do you have a firewall installed? Unless you have
a server running on your p,.  (Web server, ftp server, etc)  your
firewall should pretty much block ANYTHING coming in.

FYI.  I checked yesterday's stats and 99% of these attempted hacks come
from Eastern Europe and Asia. I had 50 blocked yesterday from one IP
address alone.

Steph



On 9/22/2012 7:14 AM, Stephanie Kellerman wrote:
> Greer,
>
> I know that you didn't mean to send this to the list, but it gives me a
> chance to respond and explain a bit.  Also, to explain to others on the
> list.
>
> Do not necessarily blame Mildred for doing this on purpose even if it
> were just graphic files it looks like her computer was trying to
> access.  Mildred's computer itself has probably been hacked.  I wish I
> could see that code.  Just because Mildred's computer was trying to
> connect to your computer does not mean that she was doing it.
>
> What she should be blamed for is not keeping her antivirus up to date
> and not having a firewall or at least not having it configured
> properly.  Also, this tells me your computer needs to have a firewall
> installed/configured.  There are a**h**es out there that continually try
> to hack computers.  If I turn on my  notification for my firewall, I am
> notified sometimes hundred times a day that someone is trying to hack
> into my computer.  They are looking for an in to find passwords, to send
> spam from your computer, etc.
>
> Mildred,  Please have someone look at your pc.  If you are doing this on
> purpose someone could file a report with the police.
>
> On that note.  I would be able to figure out how to hack into someone's
> computer just from the information in the header of the email that is
> sent out.  I had one guy regularly trying to hack into my computer.
>   From the information I got from my firewall I was able to hack into his
> computer and find out his name,email address, snail mail address and
> telephone number. I sent him an email and told him to stop or I would
> call the police.  I had one guy spoofing an email address I used for my
> richardbasehart.com web site.  I found out who he was and told him to
> stop.  He in essence laughed at me and told me I wouldn't be able to
> find out who he was.  I immediately sent him his name, email address,
> snail mail address and telephone #.  He stopped immediately.
>
> Note for the people who don't know me.  I am a network, security, email
> ,web administrator.
>
> Steph
>
> On 9/22/2012 5:14 AM, Greer Watson wrote:
>> Dear Mildred'
>>
>> I expect, in the circumstances, you've been following FORKNI-L quite closely
>> to see what I've been posting.  You therefore know that McLisa asked her
>> brother to help me find out who it was who recently attempted to access my
>> computer without permission.
>>
>> He has informed me that, by backtracking traces left on my computer, he was
>> able to locate the computer from which the hacking attempt was made; and
>> that he also discovered the location and owner.  It is your computer,
>> Mildred; and I conclude therefore that it is you who are responsible.  He
>> says the code indicates that you were trying to access graphics files on my
>> computer.
>>
>> I am distressed by this discovery.
>>
>> I do realize that you are the Grand High Pooh-bah of the Forever Knight
>> Mercenary Guild, and that *during war* you and your fellows do engage in
>> such activities.  That comes within the legitimate purview of your faction.
>> However, this is not war; this is real life.  This isn't my fictional
>> computer; it's my real computer.
>>
>> I am therefore on the horns of a dilemma.  On the one hand, you are a fellow
>> Forever Knight fan and list member.  On the other hand, you have engaged in
>> an illegal activity, and I should call the police.  At the very least, I
>> should tell Lisa and Don.
>>
>> Before I do anything so drastic, though, I am writing you for an
>> explanation.
>>
>>
>> Yours truly,
>>
>> Greer
>>
>> gwatson2@r.......
>> http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
>>

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