FORKNI-L
Digest - 14 Jun 2012 to 15 Jun 2012 (#2012-95)
Fri, 15 Jun 2012
There are 6 messages totalling 175 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Faction icons (3)
2. Vamps & plastic surger was Re: Faction icons (3)
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:06:23 -0400
From: Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: Faction icons
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:31:48 -0400, Tim wrote:
> For whatever reasons, the faction chose to "recast" Miklos.
> Since that recasting is part of their "faction identity" to me, I
> would base any further artwork for them on the "new" Miklos.
I think that's a very good point. Thanks.
Greer
gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:36:57 -0700
From: Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Faction icons
Which brings up a question...
Could a vampire undergo plastic surgery with any hope of success? Could
they "change", or would the natural tendency to regenerate mean that
everything would heal, and revert to the "original", as it were?
Thoughts, all?
On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:06:23 -0400 Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
writes:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:31:48 -0400, Tim wrote:
>
> > For whatever reasons, the faction chose to "recast" Miklos.
> > Since that recasting is part of their "faction identity" to me, I
>
> > would base any further artwork for them on the "new" Miklos.
>
> I think that's a very good point. Thanks.
>
>
> Greer
>
> gwatson2@r.......
> http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:03:30 -0400
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Re: Faction icons
>Which brings up a question...
>Could a vampire undergo plastic surgery with any hope of success?
Interesting question.
We've seen vampires regenerate in a major way (Nick's failed attempt to stop
a pipe-bomb being most famous - "Are you sure you brought me the right body?
This guy looks like he cut himself shaving.")
I would think that a surgical procedure that is removing material,
nose-cartilage reshaping,liposuction...would reverse themselves.
Processes that add material, lip-injections, breast-enlargements...
face-restructuring that involve adding material....might stay. There seem to
have been times that a vampire's body rejected foreign objects (bullets)....
and others that it took a set of forceps to dig it out. If you lean toward
the later years of the series...when it seems to have been more Nate's job to
recover things...then I would think something implanted would simply "heal
into place".
What might be challenging is finding a plastic surgeon able to work fast
enough to complete a procedure on a patient that heals as quickly as we've
seen vampires heal.
Tim
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:37:31 -0400
From: L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......>
Subject: Vamps & plastic surger was Re: Faction icons
Andrew wondered:
Which brings up a question...
> Could a vampire undergo plastic surgery with any hope of success?
>
I doubt it, because remember when Janette was shown getting a tattoo in the
2nd season? Someone, probably Nick, commented that it seemed pointless
when it would be gone by morning.
Plastic surgery, IMHO, would be perceived by the vampire's body as wounds
and therfore healed.
McLisa (Lisa McDavid)
"That will be trouble."
listowner, Forkni-l & Fkfic-l
mclisa1014@g.......
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:55:48 -0400
From: Roger Armstrong <eriklebeau@g.......>
Subject: Re: Vamps & plastic surger was Re: Faction icons
> Plastic surgery, IMHO, would be perceived by the vampire's body as wounds
> and therfore healed.
What if it were something like breast implants, I wonder? That's
something physical that's being put inside the body. Would the
vampire's body find a way to expel them, or would the incisions just
heal over? Same with piercings -- if the rings/studs were removed, I'm
sure the piercing would heal, but what about while they're still in?
Could the body healing process be strong enough to push the piercings
out, or even break them in half?
Roger
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:54:27 -0700
From: cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
Subject: Re: Vamps & plastic surger was Re: Faction icons
This isn't canon, but tradition, as well as authors like P.N. Elrod, state that
the foreign object, like a knife or presumably a piercing, must be removed in
order for healing to occur. I'm not sure how this would relate to bullets or
even breast implants. I don't believe it was made clear in canon whether the
"garlic-stuffed" bullets had healed over or not when Natalie was removing them.
Cindy
Most people have minds like concrete: mixed up or permanently set.
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From: Roger Armstrong <eriklebeau@g.......>
Could the body healing process be strong enough to push the piercings
out, or even break them in half?
Roger
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