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Digest - 29 Sep 2011 to 2 Oct 2011 (#2011-136)

Sun, 2 Oct 2011

There are 12 messages totalling 426 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. FK today (9)
  2. This time last year.... (2)
  3. Fw: FK today

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Date:    Sat, 1 Oct 2011 14:03:38 -0700
From:    Liz the Lucky <lizthelucky@c.......>
Subject: FK today

This is something I've been musing over for a while and I'm finally remember
to post here.

So much of the world has changed since FK aired. The Web was just beginning.
So were cell phones. No Twitter, Facebook or smart phones.

What would the show be like if it was being shot now?

Obviously the Raven and the Nightcrawler would have interactive websites.
Would the vamps have their own sets of sites that only they (yeah, right)
could access? Would there be special Net Enforcers? Or Hunter rings?

Medical changes. One of the things I love about FK is the biological element
of vampirism. Imagine if Nat could use all of today's equipment.

Thoughts?


Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky
lizthelucky@c.......
twitter.com/lizthelucky
Merc House Mommie

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Date:    Sat, 1 Oct 2011 18:07:54 -0300
From:    Teresa Floyd <tfloyd@n.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

----- Original Message -----
From: "Liz the Lucky" <lizthelucky@c.......>

> Obviously the Raven and the Nightcrawler would have interactive websites.
> Would the vamps have their own sets of sites that only they (yeah, right)
> could access? Would there be special Net Enforcers? Or Hunter rings?

Hey, Vachon's had his own page for years - it does look dated though:
http://laplor.tripod.com/vachon/home.html  ;)

Laplor

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Date:    Sat, 1 Oct 2011 18:17:49 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

At 17:03 10/1/2011, Liz the Lucky wrote:

>So much of the world has changed since FK aired. The Web was just beginning.
>So were cell phones. No Twitter, Facebook or smart phones.

>What would the show be like if it was being shot now?
>
>Obviously the Raven and the Nightcrawler would have interactive websites.

Maybe not, if they wanted to keep the illusion going... OTOH, the
Nightcrawler probably has his own XM Radio Channel as well as several
shows on BlogTalkRadio...

>Would the vamps have their own sets of sites that only they (yeah, right)
>could access?

Like blood-wine purveyors (or the Vampbear's Neck of the Week
subscription)? (One wonders if/how retinal-scan biometric security
would work on vamps, especially if/when their eyes change...)

I could see LC Twitter-stalking Nick, with accounts and avatars of
all his victims, with bit.ly links to a "you need human/live blood" site.

Also, vamps using multiplayer games and social sites to stalk their
next live prey much the same way as child predators.

>Would there be special Net Enforcers? Or Hunter rings?

Naah, just LaCroix game-mastering, owning, and moderating all the
*real* vamp sites...

>Medical changes. One of the things I love about FK is the biological
>element of vampirism. Imagine if Nat could use all of today's equipment.

Do you think she could sustain an episode just trying to figure out
which genes have been added, subtracted, and/or altered, and how many
different vampish variations there are of each? (Maybe she could
figure out what *really* happened to Janette in "Human Factor"...)


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Date:    Sat, 1 Oct 2011 17:43:23 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

Periott and Geraint discuss what FK might have been like
had it been produced about the time that the 2nd season
DVD came out; i.e., circa 2004, or about 10 years later.
One of the comments was that the production style would
have been different because newer (for the time) shows
were much more of a quick cut, short scenes type of thing;
no longish scenes of exposition.

So, the way the series would be produced and shown would
be much different today than originally, not even mentioning
changes that technology would have made in the show.

    Walt


----- Original Message -----
From: "Liz the Lucky" <lizthelucky@c.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 2:03 PM
Subject: FK today


> This is something I've been musing over for a while and I'm finally
> remember to post here.
>
> So much of the world has changed since FK aired. The Web was just beginning.
> So were cell phones. No Twitter, Facebook or smart phones.
>
> What would the show be like if it was being shot now?
>
> Obviously the Raven and the Nightcrawler would have interactive websites.
> Would the vamps have their own sets of sites that only they (yeah, right)
> could access? Would there be special Net Enforcers? Or Hunter rings?
>
> Medical changes. One of the things I love about FK is the biological
> element of vampirism. Imagine if Nat could use all of today's equipment.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Hugs and Kisses,
> Liz the Lucky
> lizthelucky@c.......
> twitter.com/lizthelucky
> Merc House Mommie

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Date:    Sat, 1 Oct 2011 19:14:19 -0700
From:    Liz the Lucky <lizthelucky@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

Brenda sed:
>>Obviously the Raven and the Nightcrawler would have interactive websites.
> > Maybe not, if they wanted to keep the illusion going... OTOH, the
> Nightcrawler probably has his own XM Radio Channel as well as several
> shows on BlogTalkRadio...

Janette, at least, was interested in making the Raven profitable, so there'd
be some sort of splashy, eye candy-ish page featuring exclusive drinks,
bands, etc. (And you just know she'd be getting any band she wanted.) Maybe
with a special, secret area for, ahem, overdayers?

Hmm. Given how rapidly videos can go viral on youtube, would vamps still be
a secret? Because sooner or later someone will catch a vamp flying and
upload it.

Had more, but I'm still in omygodomygot mode after the Doctor Who finalle.
Wow.

>>Would the vamps have their own sets of sites that only they (yeah, right)
>>could access?
> Like blood-wine purveyors (or the Vampbear's Neck of the Week
> subscription)? (One wonders if/how retinal-scan biometric security
> would work on vamps, especially if/when their eyes change...)

What about retinal scanners that *only* work with vamped out eyes?

>>Medical changes. One of the things I love about FK is the biological
>>element of vampirism. Imagine if Nat could use all of today's equipment.
> Do you think she could sustain an episode just trying to figure out
> which genes have been added, subtracted, and/or altered, and how many
> different vampish variations there are of each? (Maybe she could
> figure out what *really* happened to Janette in "Human Factor"...)

Not a whole episode. But a season long story arc would really work.

Hugs and Kisses,
Liz the Lucky
lizthelucky@c.......
twitter.com/lizthelucky
Merc House Mommie

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Date:    Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:04:08 -0700
From:    Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 19:14:19 -0700 Liz the Lucky <lizthelucky@c.......>
writes:

Hmm. Given how rapidly videos can go viral on youtube, would vamps still
be a secret? Because sooner or later someone will catch a vamp flying and
upload it.
==========================================
True, but for a long time, the "rational, scientific" sorts would bend
themselves into pretzels, trying to explain it away. Everything from
photoshopping, to mass hysteria, to special effects. Like alot of things
in our world, the common wisdom will accept something long before the
"educated" and such will.

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Date:    Sun, 2 Oct 2011 00:09:32 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

>One of the comments was that the production style would
>have been different because newer (for the time) shows
>were much more of a quick cut, short scenes type of thing;
>no longish scenes of exposition.

And I really don't think that would have worked very well for FK, to be honest.
The exposition was where we got our (admittedly inconsistent) character
development.  *tries to remember the shows that were on in the early
2000s.  fails*.

>What about retinal scanners that *only* work with vamped out eyes?

Do their retinas change?  *ponders*  I'm thinking that would require an
iris-pattern scan, not a retinal scan.  Or maybe an eye scan that checks
the amount of light reflected from the eyes?  That might work if you were
going for something keyed to vampires in general, instead of specific
individuals.

>Like alot of things in our world, the common wisdom will accept something long
>before the "educated" and such will.

That's because the "educated" see so much baloney come and go before a nugget
of truth comes about. :P (Anyone remember those copper bracelets that were
supposed to cure arthritis?)

The first thing that pops into my head is the availability of online classes--
do you think some vampires would decide to go to college?  Or get a telecommute
job?



     - Megan

"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Sun, 2 Oct 2011 00:17:52 -0700
From:    Andrew Caruthers <slinter@j.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 00:09:32 -0700 Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
writes:

That's because the "educated" see so much baloney come and go before a
nugget of truth comes about. :P
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Yes. So much that they fail to recognize the real thing usually.

(Anyone remember those copper bracelets that we re supposed to cure
arthritis?)
No.

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Date:    Sun, 2 Oct 2011 04:36:42 -0700
From:    "Libby A. Smith" <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: FK today

**(Anyone remember those copper bracelets that we re supposed to cure
arthritis?)
No.**

I never heard anyone claim that they'd cure arthritis, just that it'd help with
the pain and some people still swear they will. When you suffer from chronic
pain, believe me, you'll try even the most outlandish thing. Even if it is
just a "mental" reason it is working and not a scientific one, you will keep
using the copper bracelet.

There's probably still be people that swear the videos have vampires. The
question whether others will believe those who claim so.

A lot of what has been listed in this thread existed to some degree when the
show went off the air. We did have portable phones, they just weren't small
ones like today. We did have webpages at least towards the end of the show. We
did have email (this list existed).

We didn't have Facebook, though. I wonder just how many followers the
Nightcrawler would have ;-)

--Libby

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Date:    Sun, 2 Oct 2011 08:15:54 -0400
From:    Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: This time last year....

This time last year, we were all geared up for war.  The first post had
dropped to the list; we'd just found out what the war premise was; and there
was mad writing going on as each faction made its first moves.  (Or people
packed and booked tickets for Toronto, depending on whether we're talking
real or virtual.)

It was my first war.  I'd heard so much about them, and was thrilled we were
finally having another one so I could take part.  Just as everyone had said,
it turned out to be a lot of fun.  I had a great time!

But...it's been a year already?!


Greer

gwatson2@r.......
http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/


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Date:    Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:43:19 -0400
From:    g4akl@c.......
Subject: Re: This time last year....

At 08:15 AM 10/2/2011, Greer wrote:
>This time last year, we were all geared up for war.  The first post
>had dropped to the list; we'd just found out what the war premise
>was; and there was mad writing going on as each faction made its
>first moves.  .... <snip>   ....  But...it's been a year already?!

Yes it has. <g>

Arletta Asbury

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Date:    Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:21:36 -0700
From:    cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
Subject: Fw: FK today

 Most people have minds like concrete: mixed up or permanently set.



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
To: Libby A. Smith <libratsie@s.......>
Sent: Sun, October 2, 2011 4:19:44 PM
Subject: Re: FK today

A lot of what has been listed in this thread existed to some degree when the
show went off the air. We did have portable phones, they just weren't small ones
like today. We did have webpages at least towards the end of the show. We did
have email (this list existed).
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There is a very short-lived show from about the same time as FK that shows a
lot of the technology that was available at the time.  It was called *Unsub*,
and was very much the *Criminal Minds/CSI* for the time.

Cindy
 Most people have minds like concrete: mixed up or permanently set.

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