There are 3 messages totalling 150 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Other Factions (WAS: Re: Joke factions) 2. When Tracy was new 3. Admin: Anybody have digests for 1993 or 4? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:17:54 -0500 From: Greer Watson <gwatson2@r.......> Subject: Re: Other Factions (WAS: Re: Joke factions) I've now added a "Neck of the Week" article to the wiki: http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/Neck_of_the_Week. (Thanks, Brenda!) After a little thought, I've also split the Pit of Condemned Bimbos from the Pit of Condemned Bimbos *Survivalists*. (Oh, a wiki-worker's work is never done.) People have pointed out that the size of a faction is related, in part, to the number of active writers. Basically, if I've got this right, this has two effects. (1) Within the context of war, the more people there are in the faction who are active writers, the more members the faction can sustain during a war, since that makes it possible to write more fans into the plot, since plot threads can be shared out among multiple writers. (2) The other effect, I guess, is be that--out of wartime--factions with more writers post more stories (and other things) to their loop/list/group, and hence attract more people to join. Of course, Tracy Sue said: "I recall when I first joined FK fandom, certain factions (that are now reabsorbed) were more exclusive than others. As the founding members of those exclusive factions lost interest in their online pursuits, the old factions had no new blood to fill the void that they created." But then she politely/prudently doesn't name names, so I have no idea which factions she's referring to. (I do rather get the impression that she has certain ones in mind!) Here are a couple of instances that have intrigued me, though: My impression is that, when she was first introduced, Tracy was not exactly popular. First, she was replacing Schanke: :( Second, TPTB deliberately hired a tall blonde for sex appeal, thus insulting all fandom. Third, she was not only blonde, but was seen as a ditz. Would I be right in thinking that the original Perkulators faction was not, therefore, likely to attract a lot of members? The Dark Perks, on the other hand, were created a couple of years later, after the reaction to the Season 3 cast changes had died down. They saw her as a strong character, and wrote her accordingly. (They also had a strong bent towards humour; but that's not *necessarily* inconsistent.) Plus, of course, they had a lot of writers, and seem to have spun off a remarkable number of websites, one way or another. Clearly, in their heyday, the DP were a very active faction. So it's not surprising that they basically displaced the original Perkulators. Since then they have themselves declined. (This would be due to GAFIAting, I take it? I can think of a few names....) Then there are the Natpackers. They took part in all the early wars, and had a very nice, good-sized website. (I've seen it on the Wayback Machine, where most of it got recorded.) However, for a while now, their role has been taken over by the NNPack. It has always struck me that FK fans *could* be interested in affiliating themselves with Natalie for several reasons. They could, for example, be in some aspect of the medical profession themselves. Or they could see her as a strong role model, as a no-nonsense professional women with a respected career. Or they could be fascinated by the scientific research she's doing into the nature of vampirism. However, on the whole, most people stick to the following: (a) a reference to her job, incidental to a cop plot colouring a story that's really about something else; (b) character scenes with Nick; and (c) romance, today or tomorrow, with or without a cure. What I guess I'm saying is, you don't see a lot of Nat-focused stories set in the morgue that focus on her contribution as a pathologist to the solution of a crime. Of course, Natalie plays an ensemble role in a lot of FK fan fiction. However, since a lot of Nat stories are also Nick/Nat stories, there's a natural tendency for the Natpack and NNatpack to run together--like one of thoe Venn diagrams with overlapping circles, except that in this case there's almost all overlap and no bits sticking out. Anyway...these are just more musings. Anyone have comments? Greer gwatson2@r....... http://www.foreverknight.org/FK4/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:19:50 -0500 From: L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......> Subject: When Tracy was new Actually, Ger directed her first episode and he cast her. She had briefly appeared before as the campaign worker who hanged herself in the flashbacks to the 1966 Democratic Convention in Chicago. At least that's what I've been told about Lisa Ryder's casting. Why he made the choice I don't know, and I'm sure, since she was to be a regular, he had agreement from TPTB. Remember Tracey's lament about not wanting to be "Babe Cop"? I'm pretty sure that was what USA wanted and what Parriott et al. were trying to avoid. It wasn't so much the fact that she was replacing Schanke, as that we could tell she was supposed to be the new heroine. TPTB tried to get rid of Nat -- they only kept her because Ger told them, "If she [Catherine Disher] goes, I go." LC was supposed to be reduced to monologues from the station, and Nick was going to have a new neck of the week each time. Vachon was supposed to be the new male heart throb. Or, as one of us put it at the time, Nick and Nat were to be the old couple (supposedly anyone over 30 wasn't intereted in buying stuff from the advertisers), and Tracy and Vachon were the young pair (pulling all those desirable young buyers). <snort> I'd like to be clear that even those of us who didn't care for Tracey respected Lisa Ryder. She did the best she could in the situation. It didn't helo, IMHO, that there was no chemistry between her and Ben Bass. I for one never cared about their relationship the way I did about Nick and Nat, or Nick and Janette. McLisa McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be trouble." listowner, Forkni-l & Fkfic-l mclisa1014@g....... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:21:34 -0500 From: L McDavid <mclisa1014@g.......> Subject: Admin: Anybody have digests for 1993 or 4? If so, would you please look up the reports for the Dead of WInter Cons and post them to the lists? Thanks! McLisa (Lisa McDavid) "That will be trouble." listowner, Forkni-l & Fkfic-l mclisa1014@g....... ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 9 Mar 2011 to 10 Mar 2011 (#2011-31) *************************************************************
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