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Digest - 13 Nov 2009 to 14 Nov 2009 (#2009-196)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009

There are 7 messages totalling 239 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Ger question (2)
  2. DID
  3. Night in Question (4)

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Date:    Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:05:56 -0800
From:    Allison <smilewithviolets@y.......>
Subject: Ger question

My boyfriend and I got tickets for Do Not Go Gentle for Sunday the 22nd. (The
goth couple... me w/ dreads and piercings. Him looking like Tim Burton and/or
Alan Rickman if anyone wants to say hi)

My question is what are the chances of getting Ger's autograph after the play?
I'm not familiar w/ play etiquette in this regard. Does he mill about
afterwards, is there a place where he'll appear? I almost feel odd asking this
but I don't want to pass up the chance to finish my triad of autographs. :)

Thank you,
Allison
unnamed cousin
smilewithviolets@y.......



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Date:    Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:13:31 -0500
From:    Ramona Jackson <lexyladyjax@g.......>
Subject: Re: DID

>
> Thank YOU!
>
> The distinction between multiple personality and amnesia
> is a good one.  It makes sense.  At least to me.  :->
>
>    W
>

Ahem.  I had it pointed out to me today that the current term for this is
Dissociative Identity Disorder.  Whoops   <blushes>  I'm glad you found my
obsessive ramblings about trivia helpful.  I spend waaay too much time
thinking about this stuff.

I wondered why and how she could/would have been able to walk in the sun as
a human but would have had an alter who was a vampire.  That's what I came
up with as an explanation for Monica's existence.  I've long wondered if
the case of the alter of the person with DID who was diabetic when the other
personalities did not is what prompted this script.

Mona aka Peridot

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Date:    Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:26:51 -0800
From:    libratsie@s.......
Subject: Re: Ger question

I'm sure someone can give a more exact answer from me, but around my area
(which is not New York) you can ask at the box office about such etiquette.
When I've seen plays in Memphis, there's a backstage door where autograph
seekers can stand.

Ger is EXTREMELY nice. Myself and another forkni-l member walked right past
him on a Toronto sidewalk outside a theater waiting to see Lisa Ryder in a
play, did a double take, and ended up having a very nice conversation with
him although he'd been sitting on a bench reading a book at the time.  Gracious
is an understatement. I don't recall asking for an autograph, but he was
tickled when we started to walk away and I turned around and asked, "Do you
mind if we get a picture as no one is going to believe this...."

If no one on the list knows for sure, either contact the theater or ask at
the box office when you get there if it'd be possible to get his autograph.
If he's not greeting fans after the show for whatever reason, they may
offer to take something backstage to be signed.

--Libby

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Allison <smilewithviolets@y.......> wrote:



I almost feel odd asking this but I don't want to pass up the chance to finish
my triad of autographs. :)



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Date:    Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:03:26 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Night in Question

Night in Question

1.  The doctor says that some amnesia victims never recover their memories.
Is this to give Natalie some hope that hers and Nick's quest might succeed?

2.  Why do the detectives press Tracy so hard to try to remember.  Don't
there realize that this type of stress has a negative effect?

3.  Natalie and LaCroix.  Is this the first time they meet?  Although
Natalie must have seen LaCroix before since she recognizes him.

4.  Nick apparently dreams that he is biting Natalie, and LaCroix seems to
be watching.  Is this Nick's dream or LaCroix's?

5.  While driving, Nick is listening to the "Nightcrawler" and he turns him
off!  Ha!  Wonderful!

6.  For someone with amnesia, Nick remembers how to drive AND how to drive
around Toronto.  He also knows where Tracy lives as well as how to get
there.  Convenient.

7.  When Tracy is hunkering down behind the barrels at the Cement plant, I
love the look on her face when she spots the "flammable" sign right next to
her face, and realizes where she is.

8.  Has anyone else ever noticed that Nick and Tracy don't actually have any
scenes together?  Their parts could have been filmed on separate continents
and different days.  Isn't this odd?

9.  It seems to me that LaCroix is almost mellow in this episode.  Did he
take a nice pill by mistake?   :-)

10.  Inconsistencies. irregularities, lapses in continuity, or whatever you
want to call it.

            One of the things I love about Forever Knight is its
inconsistencies, etc.  This offers so much flexibility for future
interpretations.

            E.g.: When amnesiac, Nick eats the hospital chicken soup as if
he were a normal human.
            Compare this to the young woman in Hearts of Darkness with one
of three personalities being a vampire and two apparently not being one.
            This allows for lots of different interpretations.

            What gets me mostly is how the "amnesiac" gets around Toronto.
This seems a glaring error to me.  On the other hand, it's only a 44 minute
show.

            Is it that the show didn't have a "book", the writers didn't
look at the "book", or that they didn't care about it.


Walt Doherty
wdoherty5@c.......
Phoenix, AZ

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Date:    Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:43:03 +0100
From:    CousinLucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: Night in Question

Nick hasn't forgotten everything. Amnesiacs still know how to dress and stuff.
It's not as if they come out a literal blank sheet who have to learn everything
from scratch. Maybe Nick asked the Cap for Tracy's address or he has her
business card in his wallet. Given that the span of a couple of days is put
into one ep, we don't get to see everything.

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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they
have to say something." Plato




Am 14.11.2009 um 11:03 schrieb Walt Doherty:

>
>
> 6.  For someone with amnesia, Nick remembers how to drive AND how to drive
> around Toronto.  He also knows where Tracy lives as well as how to get
> there.  Convenient.

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Date:    Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:45:41 -0800
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Re: Night in Question

Walt said....

6.  For someone with amnesia, Nick remembers how to drive AND how to drive
around Toronto.  He also knows where Tracy lives as well as how to get
there.  Convenient.

            What gets me mostly is how the "amnesiac" gets around Toronto.
This seems a glaring error to me.  On the other hand, it's only a 44 minute
show.

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Amnesia resulting from a trauma such as getting shot is often selective...
usually only blocking memories of the event and related memories.  Hence Nick
wouldn't fully remember the shooting and because the vampire was an integral
part of that event (he sensed the shooter, etc) that may also have been blocked
out.

So it's fully plausible.




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Date:    Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:08:59 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: Night in Question

Walt asked:

>9.  It seems to me that LaCroix is almost mellow in this episode.  Did he
>take a nice pill by mistake?   :-)

Maybe he's so concerned about Nick that it overrides all else? :) Although one
of the things I disliked about season 3 was the watering down of LaCroix
generally. I even asked Nigel offlist about it. His reply was to the effect
that this was what the Powers That Be insisted on.  We heard later that he had
actually threatened to quit at least once.

>            E.g.: When amnesiac, Nick eats the hospital chicken soup as if
>he were a normal human.

I always figured he through up shortly thereafter. :) The doctors would have
thought it was from his general state.


>           Is it that the show didn't have a "book", the writers didn't
>look at the "book", or that they didn't care about it.


Believe it or not, there never was a book.  This left consistency up to harried
story editors and, where possible, to the cast.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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