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Digest - 8 Nov 2009 to 10 Nov 2009 (#2009-192)

Tue, 10 Nov 2009

There are 5 messages totalling 172 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Better Late Than Never - Episode Discussion: Night In Question (3)
  2. Episode Discussion Scheduling: Sons of Belial
  3. Qween of Harps - Welsh?

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Date:    Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:26:07 -0500
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Better Late Than Never - Episode Discussion: Night In Question

- "Detective Knight Is one of the luckiest men alive".  I'll say.
It took LaCroix and Natalie together to extract Nick from this one.

- "the bullet glanced off the good detective's very thick skull", amusing
way LaCroix phrased that.

- Even LaCroix couldn't make that ridiculous 1812 French hat look militant.

- it is nice how quickly the writers let Natalie comprehend the seriousness
of Nick having amnesia.  You can tell from her face that she went in moments
from realizing that Nick has amnesia to the danger that would pose to a
man whose basic life is one long lie.

- I enjoy how excited Natalie was at Nick eating chicken soup.  Such a simple
thing is so remarkable given what Nick is.  This scene and the split-personality
disorder of Hearts Of Darkness present some interesting insights to the FK
vampires.  Natalie is not entirely correct that vampirism is purely a physical
"disease" (she has never categorized it that way...but it is clear she feels the
root-cause is material).  These two episodes alone point the way to a more
metaphysical cause.  Vampires are perhaps truly damned as opposed to simply
afflicted.

- now that is interesting...are we to assume that Nick is the actual originator
of that Beethovan song?  I have no concept...is Beethovan known to have not be
able to play piano?  If he couldn't play himself...it makes sense he would work
with someone who could play to translate the music he was writing and check it
to see how it sounded in the real world.

- I admit to a little surprise that Natalie would leave Nick alone at the loft.
She did say she'd look after him.  Of course, if Natalie stayed it would make
it hard for LaCroix to have his conversation with Nick.  Also, the writers did
cover the need neatly by having Natalie return with groceries.  Nick's fridge
must be a barren thing most of the time.

- LaCroix's comment to Nick "I wish you to remember that you stayed with me
so long of your own volition...you really do like me, you just don't know
that you do" goes right to the heart of their relationship.  However much the
moral human side of Nick's soul despises LaCroix, the darker, less restrained
side of Nick reveals in LaCroix's freedom and license.

- Natalie can be very brave.  Knowing what she does of LaCroix, she is very
calm and resolute when she finally meets him.  And it is amusing how tolerant
of Natalie he is.  He accepts her "ordering him around" with remarkable
restraint.

- oh, come on now.  Reese doesn't notice that Nick's temple is completely
unmarred when he is running the ID computer program only a day or so after being
shot?  Good gravy, the props people didn't even put the wound above Nick's
hairline so Reese would think it was covered by hair.  They put it right on the
side of his head.  Grumble.  Grumble.  Mutter. Mutter.

- Nice twist that Tracy is the target instead of Nick.

-  "When you have a friend in the NightCrawler, who needs enemies?"  Truer
words were never spoken.

Tim

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Date:    Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:27:26 -0500
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion Scheduling: Sons of Belial

Next up is Sons of Belial.
Tuesday November 24th, 2009 is the Day.

            Tim Phillips
            Coordinator of the 2009 FK Virtual Syndication.

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Date:    Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:43:29 -0800
From:    "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: Better Late Than Never - Episode Discussion: Night In Question

Well, I know that Beethoven was essentially deaf by the time he composed some
of his later works, so perhaps that scene and Nick's comment was a nod to the
composer's hearing loss.

:) Boomer

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Phillips, Tim <Tim.Phillips@s.......> wrote:


- now that is interesting...are we to assume that Nick is the actual originator
of that Beethovan song?  I have no concept...is Beethovan known to have not
be able to play piano?

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Date:    Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:24:08 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: Better Late Than Never - Episode Discussion: Night In Question

>
>- now that is interesting...are we to assume that Nick is the actual originator
>of that Beethovan song?  I have no concept...

I wondered about that at the time.

>is Beethovan known to have not be able to play piano?

No, he played. In fact, he conducted some of his works from the piano when he
played it in the composition.  There was a famous incident where he didn't know
the audience was giving him a standing ovation until somene turned him to face
them.

That Beethoven piece they're playing is often used now in teaching new piano
students.  I wonder if we're supposed to assume Beethoven first taught Nick to
play the piano?  The period is right when the piano was coming into its own.
We dio know from a remark of LaCroix's after hearing that Nick claims he has
blood in his refrigerator to thicken his paints, "yes, Raphael taught him that."



>- Natalie can be very brave.  Knowing what she does of LaCroix, she is very
> calm and resolute when she finally meets him.  And it is amusing how tolerant
> of Natalie he is.  He accepts her "ordering him around" with remarkable
> restraint.

Nigel suggested at a con that LaCroix regards Natalie as Nick's pet.  That's
why he tolerates her.
>
>- oh, come on now.  Reese doesn't notice that Nick's temple is completely
>unmarred when he is running the ID computer program only a day or so after
>being shot?  Good gravy, the props people didn't even put the wound above
>Nick's hairline so Reese would think it was covered by hair.

It was a standing joke in the first season that nobody ever noticed that there
were bullet holes in Nick's clothes, but not in Nick.  Actually it would be
make-up that put the wound where it was.  It _is_ weird, since even if it had
been under his hair, said hair shouldn't have grown back so quickly.
>

McLisa
McLisa@m.......

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Date:    Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:03:40 -0800
From:    Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
Subject: Qween of Harps - Welsh?

Okay, kind of out of the blue.. haven't posted on here in a looong time.  I
just rewatched Queen of Harps today, having not watched in years.

I have been to Wales 3 times in the past year and now watching this, it just
kind of bugged me that all the supposedly Welsh characters spoke with some
weird Irish-Scottish-British-Canadian accent.  No hint of a welsh accent
anywhere... Ger came the closest even with his full Canadian accent.

Yeah I know it is a bit nit-picky, but having some to adore the Welsh accent
so much, I found it kind of funny.

-Amanda


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