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Digest - 25 Sep 2009 to 26 Sep 2009 (#2009-165)

Sat, 26 Sep 2009

There are 6 messages totalling 185 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Episode Discussion: Hearts Of Darkness (2)
  2. Everything I Needed To Know.... (2)
  3. PRAYER: Surgery (2)

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:18:22 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Hearts Of Darkness

I remember reading about a body being transported on a small airplane,
one without presurization.  As the plane rose into the air and the outside
air pressure dropped, the air still inside the body expanded, and this was
enough to cause the body to 'sit up'.  !!!!!!

Gawd.

        W

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>

>> 13) Ahhh...I had forgotten the toe-twitch at the end.
>>...logically it could also
>> just be the sort of after-death muscle reactions that do occur.
>
>>Really? Can that actually happen?  Lordy, that's got to be
>>unnerving!
> I've seen numerous references to the fact that a spasm/twitch/involuntary
> muscle movement can occur in the recently dead (several hours is the
> figure I remember through a haze).  Although the person is dead...the
> complete shutdown of the entire structure of the body takes a while.
> During that time, if the body develops a "short" you can get a eye to wink
> or a hand to clench or some other simple muscle movement.
> Although it never happened to Natalie, I remember an X-File where Scully
> was conducting an autopsy and the body winked at her.  Although she
> understood the phenomenon and explained it to Mulder, it did shake her a
> bit.  Can't say that I blame her.
> Tim

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Date:    Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:56:55 -0700
From:    cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Hearts Of Darkness

Yes, this can happen.  One would think of the morgue as a quiet place, but the
dead can twitch, sit up, groan, and frequently are flatulent.  And when, on
occassion, another life-form takes up residence in the body, things can get
really interesting until it's been diagnosed.  As a lot of you know, I'm a
medical lab tech, so I've seen a fair amount of post-mortem oddities.

BTW, the episode pertaining to the beer fridge was Ashes to Ashes, not Fever
as I wrongly recalled earlier.
 Most people have minds like concrete: mixed up or permanently set.



----- Original Message ----
From: Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
I remember reading about a body being transported on a small airplane,
one without presurization.  As the plane rose into the air and the outside
air pressure dropped, the air still inside the body expanded, and this was
enough to cause the body to 'sit up'.  !!!!!!

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Date:    Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:38:03 -0700
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Everything I Needed To Know....

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Lorin <vachesang@1.......> wrote:

> A long white nightie looks strange on a grown man.

I don't know, I thought Ger made it look good.

;-)

Laurie of the Isles




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Date:    Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:58:27 -0700
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: PRAYER: Surgery

Although I may have forgotten to ask recently for good thoughts for this, I
think I have mentioned in the past that I was going to have to have a
hysterectomy.

The surgery was Thursday.  Everything went well.  The doctor was able to do
it laporoscopically for which I am very grateful.  They discovered that once
they took the tube out and stopped breathing for me, I don't breathe so well
on my own under anesthesia, they had to keep reminding me to take deep breaths,
so I spent a while in recovery.  I discovered I am not a fan of the catheter.
My nurses were wonderful.  Hospitals still aren't great places to get rest.
I got home yesterday around noon.  I haven't yet needed any of the vicodin
that was prescribed. I seem to be doing okay with ibuprophen.


Laurie of the Isles
Laudon1228@y.......
http://1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com/
http://1-mad-squirrel.dreamwidth.org/
"Heaven for climate, Hell for company." - Mark Twain




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Date:    Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:31:09 EDT
From:    Nickis Mom <Nickismom1228@a.......>
Subject: Re: PRAYER: Surgery

I'm so glad your doing so well.  Its amazing what they can do
laporoscopically these days.

Being off the hard meds is really wonderful, good for you!

Jeannie


In a message dated 9/26/2009 6:58:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
laudon1228@y....... writes:

Although  I may have forgotten to ask recently for good thoughts for this,
I think I  have mentioned in the past that I was going to have to have a
hysterectomy.

The surgery was Thursday.  Everything went  well.  The doctor was able to
do it laporoscopically for which I am very  grateful.  They discovered that
once they took the tube out and stopped  breathing for me, I don't breathe so
well on my own under anesthesia, they had  to keep reminding me to take
deep breaths, so I spent a while in  recovery.  I discovered I am not a fan of
the catheter.  My nurses  were wonderful.  Hospitals still aren't great
places to get rest.  I  got home yesterday around noon.  I haven't yet needed
any of the vicodin  that was prescribed. I seem to be doing okay with
ibuprophen.


Laurie of the  Isles
Laudon1228@y.......
http://1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com/
http://1-mad-squirrel.dreamwidth.org/
"Heaven  for climate, Hell for company." - Mark Twain

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Date:    Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:26:58 -0400
From:    Brenda Bell <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: Everything I Needed To Know....

At 06:05 AM 9/24/2009, Lorin wrote:

>A long white nightie looks strange on a grown man.

That wasn't a nightie, that was a shirte (spelled with or without a
final "e") -- the standard body layer (underwear) for men and women
from antiquity through the 19th Century. (Yes, it did go through some
stylistic changes, local variations, name changes, and
gender-specific versions.) The idea is to protect the more expensive,
harder-to-launder, and harder-to-replace outer/fashion garments from
dander, wastes, and body fluids.

Today's equivalents would be men's undershirts (and boxers/briefs),
and women's bra-slips.

And most men look fine in shirtes, if they're well-constructed. Then
again, I spend at least part of the summer traipsing around in
custom-made 16th-Century garb...



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