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Digest - 5 Aug 2009 to 6 Aug 2009 (#2009-129)

Thu, 6 Aug 2009

There are 8 messages totalling 237 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. EW's 20 Greatest Vampires
  2. episodes for first time viewers (4)
  3. Fw: Recent FK mentions (2)
  4. Neilsen ratings

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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:24:16 -0500
From:    Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Re: EW's 20 Greatest Vampires

> Especially since Entertainment Weekly's latest issue features "20 Greatest
> Vampires of All Time"....with NO mention of our favorite vamps.


I think either one or two years ago EW did feature Nick as one of their top
vampires. It was an online list, not magazine based, but it was so great
to see FK mentioned in a mainstream magazine.

I believe it was mentioned on the list. If I can find the wording I'll post
it.

--Roxy


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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:29:10 -0500
From:    Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Re: episodes for first time viewers

Libs wrote:
> When I've actually been able to show a few episodes to potential fans, I
> like to start with 'Be My Valentine' (hope I got that episode name right!)
> and 'Fever.'
> -Libs

I'm going to steer away from the topic of the moment because I've always been
interested in this particular issue.

We all have our favorites when it comes to episodes but sometimes those
favorites aren't necessarily the best episodes to initiate new fans.

What guidelines do everyone go by?

I personally start off with the one, two punch of the "Dark Knight" duo.
I honestly believe FK hit the ground running when it came to the start of the
series. Any of the first episodes are winners for me, especially "For I Have
Sinned" and "Last Act".

I also like to pick episodes that strongly feature the character dynamics.
Season 2's "Hunters" or is it "Hunted"? Ack I always get those two confused,
either way is great to showcase the Nick/Schanke partnership and
LaCroix/Nick/Janette in the flashback. "Dying to Know You" is great for the
Nick/Nat interaction and "Spin Doctor" is great for the Nick/Natalie/Schanke.

Interesting stories are also first time viewer winners for me. "Baby, Baby"
is great because it's such a unique story and Ger did a lovely job in his
directorial debut. "Near Death" is another strong story episode. I love "Fever"
but I feel awful introducing potential new fans the character of Screed only to
have him die in the episode.

I'd love to hear other fans thoughts.

--Roxy

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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:33:03 -0700
From:    cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
Subject: Re: Fw: Recent FK mentions

Kewl!  Thanks Michele!

 Most people have minds like concrete: mixed up or permanently set.



----- Original Message ----
From: Michele Azuddin <mobody@g.......>
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 1:35:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Recent FK mentions

LINKY LINKY

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/mark_dawidziak/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1249115425305490.xml&coll=2

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:19 PM, cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>wrote:

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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:37:04 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Neilsen ratings

Or, at least LaCroix!


>I know that I for one kept hoping to turn the page and see Nick as an
>honorable mention or something...
>
> Lisa K.
> LthePoet@a.......
>
>
>>Especially since Entertainment Weekly's latest issue features "20 Greatest
>>Vampires of All Time"....with NO mention of our favorite vamps.

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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:46:13 -0700
From:    Walt Doherty <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: episodes for first time viewers

Well, geez, there's nothing for me to choose here.  You've got
down exactly what I would have written.

DK establishes most of the mythology right off the bat, includes
a lot of the characteristic humor, shows Schanke's character
pretty well, Nick's angst, LaCroix's evil grin -- it's probably as
good a typical example of the series as any.

FK hit the ground running and, with only a few stumbles, kept
right on going.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roxana Elizondo" <roxeliz@h.......>


> I'm going to steer away from the topic of the moment because I've always
> been interested in this particular issue.
>
> I personally start off with the one, two punch of the "Dark Knight" duo.
> I honestly believe FK hit the ground running when it came to the start of
> the series. Any of the first episodes are winners for me, especially "For
> I Have Sinned" and "Last Act".
>

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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:10:00 -0700
From:    libratsie@s.......
Subject: Re: episodes for first time viewers

I choose "Fever" to show newbies because not only do I feel it is one of the
best written episodes, it has a great social issue behind it. It touches
on AIDs and in a round about way, homosexuality. Many of my friends are
activists or at least support such causes.

"Be My Valentine" just seems to grab a lot of newbies, I've discovered over
the years. I think it is the interaction between LaCroix and Natalie.

Of course I'd change the "first episode shown" if I thought a friend might
be captivated by other episodes such as "Father's Day" or ... is it "Ashes
to Ashes" (the one with LaCroix's past).

--Libby

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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:07:22 -0500
From:    Lisa Luksus <tokaara@c.......>
Subject: Re: episodes for first time viewers

At 06:10 PM 8/5/2009, libratsie@s....... typed these words:
>Of course I'd change the "first episode shown" if I thought a friend might
>be captivated by other episodes such as "Father's Day" or ... is it "Ashes
>to Ashes" (the one with LaCroix's past).

"A More Permanent Hell" had the main part of LC's backstory.  "Ashes to
Ashes" had more, where they showed him staking Divia & shoving her in that
Egyptian tomb.  (Can't imagine why *that* irritated her.)  Two excellent LC
episodes, to be sure.



Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@c....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308 / Yahoo messenger tokariel

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Date:    Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:22:46 -0700
From:    cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>
Subject: Re: Fw: Recent FK mentions

I just remembered, a couple of weeks earlier (also in the Plain Deler) there
was a great article with recipes for making stage-blood and organs for theater
productions. A local group was performing Sweeney Todd, and chose to share some
of their bloody secrets with PD readers.

----- Original Message ----
From: Michele Azuddin <mobody@g.......>
To: FORKNI-L@l.......
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 1:35:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Recent FK mentions

LINKY LINKY

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/mark_dawidziak/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1249115425305490.xml&coll=2

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:19 PM, cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......>wrote:

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