There are 8 messages totalling 290 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Episode Discussion: The Fire Inside (2) 2. Canadian Cuts 3. New FK Fanlisting (3) 4. Canadian Cuts and fanhistory.com 5. Forever Knight Fanhistory.com wiki instructions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:58:57 -0700 From: Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: The Fire Inside Considering Nick can see in the dark (or as well as one assumes a cat can) it makes sense. Now, that doesn't do much for perpetuating the "mortal" cover story, mind you... > > > > 5) Nick and Schanke only brought 1 flashlight > between them? > > Let's just say one of them is better at planning and > organization than the other :) > > > Kristen Fife, Author http://tinyurl.com/2wgmdg In Memory of Tuffer -1/9/02-11/15/07 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:13:03 +0800 From: eruve erundun <eruveerundun@y........HK> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: The Fire Inside In the flashback, Lacroix actually backing down from his callous remark of the runaways -"They're lunch." at Nick's even-toned, "You've had your fill, leave them be". I wondered a bit about that. Lacroix wasn't exactly afraid of Nick but there was a great deal of respect there...wonder what prompted it. Then there's the curious lack of respect from the overseer. Nick is dressed very well, obviously someone of means and this guy just tromps in all over his property muttering veiled threats. If Nick gave the sort of glances he gave the guy to me...I'd be running - he had that distinct "you're this close to being lunch meat" look. Ell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:36:10 -0700 From: Amy R. <akr@l.......> Subject: Re: Canadian Cuts In Tuesday's digest, CousinLucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......> wrote: >> Yes, myth. For the last and ultimate time - the "aired" German >> version is the Canadian version. What else there was, was left on >> the cutting room floor.<< I don't mean to disagree, and of course you are absolutely right about there being no no "flesh shots," but I have seen dubbed VHS copies of one German airing of FK's first season, and what I saw does have _some_ brief footage that is additional to the Canadian airings. In almost all cases, those shots are "atmosphere" extending the existing scenes -- the camera lingers longer on a set or prop, or a character walks a few more steps across a room or down a street. I do not recall any of them including dialogue. Nevertheless, those bits are additional to the Canadian airings. My favorite is Nick picking up and setting down a book on the credenza next to his answering machine. Just a few seconds -- but what a prize! :-) Nick reading! In his home! Knightie-bookworm joy. ;-) The one scene in all of first season in which I found a substantive content addition in the German episodes I saw was what I think of as Ilsa's flashback inside Nick's flashback in "Dead Issue." It's only a few seconds long, again, but the German version I saw shows either Ilsa remembering, or Nick imagining, the painter attacking Ilsa, which is not in any of the North American versions I've seen. This made a big impression on me, because of a long-past, intense dispute over the breadth of the painter's culpability in the story, and the painter character's relation to the real historical personage on whom he is based. That dispute would have been different had we seen that brief footage. I do not know the ultimate origin of the German episodes I saw, but they were in German audio -- and adapted, not straight translated (cf. FIHS and what the women say on the phones) -- and they seemed to have been taped off a television broadcast. Perhaps they were the very first broadcast? I have heard that even in Canada, the very first new run was clipped for the initial reruns, but I do not know that for a fact. I do know, from a recent conversation with Valerie, that the DVDs are missing footage I have on my Canadian VHS tapes. We discovered missing dialogue in the flashbacks of "False Witness," darn it. My copy of the DVD lacks all Lacroix and Nick's lines about, "Why do you think that is, Nicholas? Is it because they have souls?" Instead, it just stops with Lacroix saying, "I'll never compare to them." Amy R. akr@l....... http://users.LMI.net/akr/fk/ http://brightknightie.livejournal.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:39:05 -0400 From: Melissa Puzio <melissa.puzio@c.......> Subject: New FK Fanlisting I have created a fanlisting especially for the Valentines called Dangerous Minds. The fanlisting is for fans of Natalie and LaCroix, our favorite coroner and master vampire; respectfully. This is for either those who want to see them as a couple or who simply enjoy the intriguing chemistry between the two antagonists who each feel they know what is best for Nick. The URL is http://melsdomain.50megs.com/foreverknight/dangerousminds/index.html . It is also now an "official" fanlisting at thefanlistings.org <http://thefanlistings.org/> . Look under the topic TV/Relationships, F, Forever Knight. Check it out. Melissa aka Cousin Mel - <mailto:melissa.puzio@c.......> melissa.puzio@c....... *Cousin*Dark Knightie*Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*Dark Nattie*NVC*Dark Trinity*Valentine* <http://melsdomain.50megs.com/foreverknight/index.html> http://melsdomain.50megs.com/foreverknight/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:55:28 -0700 From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susanmgarrett@e.......> Subject: Re: Canadian Cuts and fanhistory.com CousinLucilla said >Yes, myth. For the last and ultimate time - the "aired" German version is the Canadian version. What else there was, was left on the cutting room floor.> Aha. Wiki amended, then. We do know that: 1. There were at least three episodes in which fleshy bits were filmed (this from the actors who were there during filming) 2. That there was a contract that required the delivery of the fleshy bits (this from someone who saw the contract) We had never heard from anyone who had actually seen fleshy bits aired in Germany - it was assumed they were aired when the series first went on the air in Germany. Thank you for the confirmation that they did not actually air the fleshy bits. Also, we now have an FK fic based tab menu and an FK basic menu attached to pages to ease navigation I've finished creating the shells for the episodes - anyone who has a mind to can populate them. I've posted how you can add yourself to the fan wiki. I'm going to make a template tonight for fanfiction pages, so you can link stories to the wiki. You don't post the story there, you just create a page with basic info about the story and link it to an active website. Is there anything else anyone wants or needs to do that they can't figure out? If so, let me know and I'll try to help. Regards, Susan M. Garrett susanmgarrett@e....... "Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:07:29 -0700 From: NAT <nat1228@c.......> Subject: Re: New FK Fanlisting At 05:39 PM 6/24/2008, Cousin Mel wrote: > I have created a fanlisting especially for the Valentines called Dangerous > Minds. ... The URL is > http://melsdomain.50megs.com/foreverknight/dangerousminds/index.html . I hope you don't mind, but I added your URL to my links page under Faction Links. http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/links.htm Thanks for helping to keep the factions and FK alive and well! Nat ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ nat1228@c....... -- Knightie, N&NPack http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/fk.htm http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/links.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:22:45 -0700 From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susanmgarrett@e.......> Subject: Forever Knight Fanhistory.com wiki instructions At the request of the Fan History wiki owners, I've put together an instruction page on the Forever Knight section of the wiki: http://www.fanhistory.com/index.php/Help:Forever_Knight It's not quite point and click, but it should help you figure out how to do what you want to do. This will tell you how to add yourself as a fan, add you website, add your fiction, etc. As I get more of the templates done (actors, characters, etc.), they'll show up on the wiki help page. And if you need help or have a question, don't hesitate to ask. Regards, Susan M. Garrett susanmgarrett@e....... "Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:18:35 -0400 From: Melissa Puzio <melissa.puzio@c.......> Subject: Re: New FK Fanlisting <<I hope you don't mind, but I added your URL to my links page under Faction Links. http://www.squidge.org/~nat1228/links.htm>> Thank you very much. I wonder why we don't see any more faction pages since there are so many of them. Melissa aka Cousin Mel - <mailto:melissa.puzio@c.......> melissa.puzio@c....... *Cousin*Dark Knightie*Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*Dark Nattie*NVC*Dark Trinity*Valentine* <http://melsdomain.50megs.com/foreverknight/index.html> http://melsdomain.50megs.com/foreverknight/index.html-----Original Message----- ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Jun 2008 to 25 Jun 2008 (#2008-151) ***************************************************************
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