There are 5 messages totalling 195 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Today's Birthday: March 11 2. Favorite Immortals and Vamps 3. Favorite Immortals and Vamps - Plus 4. Vampire Gene, or? 5. dark perk images ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:47:56 -0500 From: eowyn23@j....... Subject: Today's Birthday: March 11 Hi Y'all! Today is Johnny Appleseed Day and Worship of Tools Day and the Birthday of: Shenandora aka Heike Shining_moon2000@y....... And Greg Kramer (Screed) You may send birthday greetings to Shenandora at the above email address. Send birthday greetings for Greg to Libs Libratsie@s....... Please NOT to the list! Others who share Shenandora and Greg's birthday: Sam Donaldson, Newscaster Bobby McFerrin, Jazz Singer Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice Douglas Adams, Author Lawrence Welk, Conductor Significant events on this day: 105, A.D., Ts'ai Lun invented paper. 1850, the Women's Medical College of Pennsylvania, the first medical school entirely for women, is incorporated. 1969, Levi starts to sell bell-bottomed jeans. 1975, fossil hunters in Texas find the wing of a reptile pterosaur believed to be 60 million years old. I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Shenandora and Greg! If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send your name, birthdate (no year needed) and email address to me, eowyn23@j......., privately, and I'll be glad to add you. Terri eowyn23@j....... GWDFC, FK X-Stitcher, Proud Survivor of FK Fic Wars 8-12, Texas Knight Dreamers, Knighties List Owner, Keeper of the FK Birthday List ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:15:46 -0700 From: Megan MacLean <xena_goddess_of_war_99@y.......> Subject: Re: Favorite Immortals and Vamps Sadly I'd have to agree. It seems if it's not trash, it's not 'good' enough to air. The shows now lack substance and the human emotion that was so evident in FK. Nick's struggle to become human and his battle of the darkness inside were perhaps some of the most incredible aspects of the show. Not many shows have that depth and scope. I loved the wit and humor that the show also espoused, without being trashy or over the top. Really, FK was on of the gems back then. Megan MacLean --- Portia <portia1@m.......> wrote: I really doubt FK, QL, Highlander, or many of the others that have kept my affection years after they've gone off the air would have made it through even half a season in today's television climate. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:20:48 -0700 From: Walt <wdoherty5@c.......> Subject: Re: Favorite Immortals and Vamps - Plus From: "Megan MacLean" <xena_goddess_of_war_99@y.......> > substance and the human emotion that was so evident in > FK. Nick's struggle to become human and his battle of > the darkness inside were perhaps some of the most > incredible aspects of the show. Not many shows have > that depth and scope. Having the DVDs allows the luxury of viewing the stories more carefully and with a critical eye. The depth of characterization and the battles the characters deal with (not just Nick) are impressively done. Forever Knight Production Values In addition to that, something that impresses me quite a bit are the production values of the show. There are a lot of scenes where two of the major characters are speaking (say Cohen and Nick) where this could have been filmed with just those two people either in Cohen's office or done with close-ups, but the scene is filmed out in the squad room with about 20 other people around. Now nothing gets on the screen by accident (well rarely, but you know what I mean) which means all these people are either extras or crew who have been used as extras. And one deduction is that all these people are being paid. Often for just a small, short scene. This must have cost a bundle. Especially when a couple of stock shots of a busy squad room and some close-ups would have sufficed. I would deduce from this (and other things) that a lot of effort was put into every aspect of the show. You can see that the people behind it believed in it, and you can understand maybe why it wasn't picked up for a fourth season. Quality TV You're right quality costs. Television networks are in business to make money, not to provide culture (remember what A&E and Bravo presented foreign films and operas?). Of course, this has been a problem since art was invented. Michelangelo had to please the Pope, he couldn't paint only want he wanted to. It's an old saw, but it's 'show business' not 'show arts'. And another old saw: you get what you pay for. So, anyway, I guess we have to be glad we can get what little quality we can. Not to plug Sirius radio, but it does have the Metropolitan Opera channel - 6 operas a day, 4 live performances a week, with interviews of the principals, etc. - now if you're not an opera buff, you wouldn't care, but when you're stuck in the largest cow town in the western hemisphere, where dressing up means putting a shirt with buttons on instead of a t-shirt, it's nice to know that some sort of culture is available in some manner or another. Subscriptions? I wonder if it would be possible to bypass sponsors, networks, and all the middle men by letting fans subscribe directly to a show. I can subscribe to 12 issues of Analog Science Fiction for 40 or 50 bucks. I'd be happy to shell out 40 or fifty bucks for anywhere from 12 to 24 episodes of something as good as FK. And actually, I have 'cause that's the going rate for each season's DVDs. Another thing: New Amsterdam's recent episodes are available online from its website. It's free, but there are 30 second commercial breaks between acts - still much less annoying than the 4 to 5 minute breaks over the air, plus if you miss a line or something, you can back up. I'll take it for free, but for a show I truly believed in (like FK), I'd shell out 2 or 3 bucks to watch it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:33:19 -0400 From: Naia Zifu <naia_zifu@b.......> Subject: Vampire Gene, or? Would there be such thing as a "vampire gene"? Seems more like some sort of virus or disease, especially since you (er, usually, depending on how the writers feel) only get it by receiving the blood of one who is already a vampire. (Apologies if someone already said this before me-- on digest and all, haven't seen it yet.) Naia Zifu (naia_zifu@b.......) http://www.geocities.com/naia_zifu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:44:13 -0400 From: "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......> Subject: dark perk images Anyone have a link to an image of Tracy Vetter that they think really says "Dark Perk"? Tim ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Mar 2008 to 12 Mar 2008 (#2008-68) **************************************************************
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