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Digest - 10 Mar 2008 to 11 Mar 2008 (#2008-67)

Tue, 11 Mar 2008

There are 8 messages totalling 264 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. immortals who do tend to stay put
  2. New? Amsterdam, its relation to Nick, and the use of historical flashbacks
  3. Still looking for your  help!
  4. Favorite Immortals and Vamps (2)
  5. Episode Discussion: Undue Process (2)
  6. Episode Discussion Scheduling: Father's Day

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Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:20:53 -0700
From:    Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y.......>
Subject: Re: immortals who do tend to stay put

Sounds like a crossover to me :)
--- cindy clark <badwolf15895@s.......> wrote:

> What if John Amsterdam were to run into another
> immortal?  Wouldn't one of his anchronistic
> wisecracks make Nick or LaCroix do a double-take?
>
>

Kristen Fife, Author
http://tinyurl.com/2wgmdg
In Memory of Tuffer -1/9/02-11/15/07


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Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:40:52 -0400
From:    Jean Graham <jeang477@a.......>
Subject: Re: New? Amsterdam, its relation to Nick, and the use of historical
 flashbacks

Barbara Stone said:

>Nick didn't dare let his secret out because the enforcers would put an end to
>him and to any hapless mortal who held the secret...  But it seems to me that the
>very worst that could happen to Amsterdam if his secret were to become widely
>known, would be the inconvenience of celebrity and a bunch of scientists knocking
>on his door in search of a lab rat.

That's a plot possibility I wish FK had explored a bit more. Not just with the
 baroness and others like her who wanted to be brought across in order to become
 immortal, but the twist of a greedy mortal who'd want to exploit the "vampire
 gene" scientifically, possibly to isolate it, study it and figure out how to
 live forever without all the annoying vampire side effects. (!) Nick might
 actually have gone along with that, as it might have provided him with a cure.

Anyone else here ancient enough to remember a 1970 tv series called "The
 Immortal" that used this premise? (The hero had a super-rare blood type that made
 him immortal, and the series bad guy was a billionaire who pursued him all over
 the globe 'cause he wanted to make him into the aforementioned lab rat.)

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Date:    Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:29:54 EDT
From:    KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Still looking for your  help!

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Date:    Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:43:47 -0400
From:    Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Favorite Immortals and Vamps

All this talk of New Amsterdam (really liking it!) and Moonlight (can't get
 into it, despite Jason Dohring--oh, Logan!!) has put me in mind of Blood Ties;
 anyone else missing that series?  I sooo wish it had aired somewhere other than
 Lifetime; it might have had a chance aired on a different network.  I loved the
 characters and plots, the relationships, the other-worldliness, and the
 interesting take on vampires.  I think I also loved it b/c of its reflections of FK:
 Toronto, Cops, Vampires, and Christina Cox, who was excellent both as Victoria
 Nelson and the unforgettable Joan D'Arc in the FK ep "For I Have Sinned."

Most TV, anymore, I end up waiting to watch when/if it comes out on DVD at
 NetFlix, but Blood Ties, New Amsterdam, and SGA are the few shows I actually
 bother(ed) to catch as aired on TV.  Sigh; seems like if it's not tawdry, terrible,
 or a Reality Show (which is all that and more), television is no longer willing
 to invest in the type of shows that earn my devotion.  I really doubt FK, QL,
 Highlander, or many of the others that have kept my affection years after
 they've gone off the air would have made it through even half a season in today's
 television climate.

Portia

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Date:    Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:50:05 -0700
From:    "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: Favorite Immortals and Vamps

--- Portia <portia1@m.......> wrote:

> All this talk of New Amsterdam (really liking it!)
> and Moonlight (can't get into it, despite Jason
> Dohring--oh, Logan!!) has put me in mind of Blood
> Ties; anyone else missing that series?

Most definitely! And there's still a chance it could
be back. The producers are "cautiously optimistic."


> Toronto, Cops, Vampires,and Christina Cox, who
> was excellent both as Victoria Nelson and the
> unforgettable Joan D'Arc in the FK ep "For I
> Have Sinned."

That Joan of Arc flashback was indeed memorable. And,
IIRC, Christina Cox also showed up in a second episode
as the traffic cop in Close Call.


> I really doubt FK, QL, Highlander, or many of the
> others that have kept my affection years after
> they've gone off the air would have made it through
> even half a season in today's television climate.

I have to agree with that observation. In retrospect,
it seems that FK may have been a little ahead of its
time, given the resurgent interest in vampires and the
supernatural that seems to be occurring; on the other
hand, networks these days are giving new shows
precious little time to catch on, thus condemning many
good shows that need a little more time to find their
audience. There have been quite a few successful shows
that took most of a season to catch on, something that
doesn't seem to happen today. The reality shows you
lamented are fast and cheap to produce, so, from a
purely financial standpoint, the networks love them.
The recent writer's strike also insured that we'll
likely see even more of them in the near future --
Ugh! I really HATE reality shows!
Makes me appreciate FK all the more!

(back to lurking)

:) Boomer


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Date:    Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:34:22 -0400
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Undue Process

1) talk about an opening that hooks you...right in the stomach.  Very
nicely done.  Dramatic and emotional without going too far with it.

2)it was nice that they gave Schanke the line about complaining that the
mayor's office could have called and told Natalie that she was off the
case before she went to the murder scene of her god-daughter...but I do
find it "unrealistic" (it disturbs my belief in the reality of this show
about Canadian vampires you see) that Cohen wouldn't have arranged
herself to have Natalie removed from a case she so obviously couldn't
perform her offical duties for due to conflict of interest.

3) Schanke keeps seeing Nick do things like beat a car traveling 4
blocks..and doesn't really question what his own eyes are showing him.
To think that some folks call Nick "the brick".
I'm just glad that they finally let Schanke put the pieces together for
real that one time in an upcoming episode.

4)when Natalie is burning Gault's wanted fliers, it is pretty obvious
they are at her apartment (it sure ain't the Loft).  There is an
abstract painting on the wall behind Nick/Nat.  It looks sorta like
something Nick might have painted.  Nice to think that it is one of his
works that he gave Natalie as a gift.

5) just me.  I would have omitted the final image of the tombstone once
they had decided to make Cynthia's character Natalie's goddaughter
instead of her niece.  The scene of Natalie and  Nick in the car was
strong enough.  It didn't need the now mis-engraved stone.

	Tim

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Date:    Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:35:14 -0400
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion Scheduling: Father's Day

The next episode up is Father's Day.

Last one on Disk 2 of the Season 2 DVDs.

Date is March 24th, 2008.

	Tim

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Date:    Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:35:20 -0700
From:    Walt <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Undue Process

> find it "unrealistic" (it disturbs my belief in the reality of this show
> about Canadian vampires you see) that Cohen wouldn't have arranged
> herself to have Natalie removed from a case she so obviously couldn't
> perform her offical duties for due to conflict of interest.
>
        I find it unrealistic that Natalie herself wouldn't have
        revmoved herself from the case.  She would know
        that she was too close to the situation to deal with it;
        and that such removal would have been the usual
        procedures for the department anyway.


        A question: who does Natalie report to?
        Is the Captain her 'boss'?  Sometimes it seems
        that way, but I would think there would be a separate
        chain of command for the Coroner's office.
        On the other hand, Natalie never seems to have
        some other person to report to.

     Walt Doherty
     Phoenix, AZ

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