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Digest - 6 Nov 2007 to 7 Nov 2007 (#2007-110)

Wed, 7 Nov 2007

There are 16 messages totalling 485 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. The Return of the *DEAD* Vamps (4)
  2. FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Nov 2007 to 6 Nov 2007 (#2007-109)
  3. ADMIN: please watch the quote limits
  4. Episode Discussion: Love You To Death
  5. Episode Discussion Scheduling: Killer Instinct
  6. Admin: Digest Subject Lines
  7. Admin: Too much moonlight
  8. Today's Birthday: November 7
  9. FK on Chiller (4)
 10. FK on Chiller-Angst

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Date:    Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:07:31 -0800
From:    Adina Montgomery <adinaruth@e.......>
Subject: The Return of the *DEAD* Vamps

Difficult, because IIRC she was killed off in the fire and explosion after
 being thrown into the vat with the silver essence.  However, this being television,
 and because nobody ever dies in sci-fi, she could stage a miraculous comeback.
  LOL

>From: Gaelin Wade <gaelinwade@a.......>
I thought the Lola character of the most recent Moonlight episode made a far
 more interesting, LaCroix-ish "old vamp" than Josef. If the sereis lasts, I hope
 she returns.

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Date:    Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:46:44 EST
From:    Gaelin Wade <GaelinWade@a.......>
Subject: Re: The Return of the *DEAD* Vamps

Not that difficult. She did die off camera afterall. Her henchmen were all
around.  All it would have taken is one vamp with speed. (Maybe even the
lovelorn Josef himself)  He pulls her out of the vat and runs out of the building
before the explosion. She hadn't been in the silver that long, she was probably
salvagable.

Besides, as someone else noted, we actually saw LC staked with a flaming
piece of wood and he came back. :-)


In a message dated 11/6/2007 5:08:09 PM Central Standard Time,
adinaruth@e....... writes:
>
> Difficult, because IIRC she was killed off in the fire and explosion after
> being thrown into the vat with the silver essence.  However, this being
> television, and because nobody ever dies in sci-fi, she could stage a
 miraculous
> comeback.  LOL
>


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Date:    Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:39:57 -0500
From:    Ramona Jackson <lexyladyjax@g.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Nov 2007 to 6 Nov 2007 (#2007-109)

>
> Gaelin Wade <gaelinwade@a.......> wrote:     I read when the series started
> that the rights to the Tony character was being reserved for a separate
> series/production. I don't recall if that was a separate Lifetime series or
> another production company.
>
>  That's true, Tanya Huff has stated that there was a possibility that Tony
> might get his own series, but IIRC, that hasn't happened ... yet.
>
>
>  I thought the Lola character of the most recent Moonlight episode made a
> far more interesting, LaCroix-ish "old vamp" than Josef. If the sereis
> lasts, I hope she returns.
>
>
> Josef is IMO such a bland and completely superfluous character that I
> wouldn't miss him if he never showed up again. But then I can't imagine ever
> having another master vampire that could match Nigel Bennett's LaCroix. I
> agree that Lola was a much better "older vamp" but I think it's unlikely she
> will return given the episode's ending.  But then again, LaCroix returned to
> FK after being run through with a flaming stake, so I suppose anything is
> possible. It would have been great to see a character like her going head to
> head with LaCroix in FK.
>
>  :) Boomer


Yes, but in Moonlight he sticks out a mile since all the other characters
are so lame and tame.  Otherwise I wouldn't waste a second glance at him.
I'm still not any kind of fan of this series as yet.  I'm hoping it will
improve.

Ramona, aka PE

>
>
>        Could he do it as Nick?  Vampires don't age, but actors do.
>        And, as good looking as he still is, GWD isn't 35 anymore.
>
>
>
> >  And a very memorable role it was. She also showed up as a cop in a
> > flashback in another ep
>
>          Yes, that was "Close Call".
>
>         Walt Doherty
>         Phoenix, AZ
>
> I think that any real possibility of GWD reprising his role as Nick Knight
> as a vampire is not very realistic.  This may be an unpopular view, but time
> marches on we can't turn back the clock.  Wish it wasn't so, though.


Ramona

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Date:    Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:51:57 -0800
From:    Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: ADMIN: please watch the quote limits

I have McLisa's and Don's permission to post friendly reminders about the
 rules.

  As per the rules Don posts every week:


2. Please don't quote more than four lines of a previous post in
replying. If you have more than one point to answer, then you may
quote the relevant four lines for that point also.

  I've seen several posts todays which repeats the previous post entirely.

  Thanks!

  --Libs the List Ratsie

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Date:    Tue, 6 Nov 2007 21:31:13 -0700
From:    Walt <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: The Return of the *DEAD* Vamps

From: "Gaelin Wade" <GaelinWade@a.......>

> Besides, as someone else noted, we actually saw LC staked with a flaming
> piece of wood and he came back. :-)
>

Actually if you watch carefully, you do see LaCroix get staked with the
flaming piece of wood.  But shortly following that there is a shot of the
flames in front of the door without anyone or anything there.  After than
there is a shot of something burning on the floor, presumably LaCroix,
but it could as easily have been just his coat.

Or, Nick could have dreamed the whole thing . . . . ;->>>>>

     Walt Doherty
     Phoenix, AZ

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:36:27 -0500
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion: Love You To Death

1) I'm not sure where John Kapelos would rank this episode in terms of
being a favorite...but this is clearly one of Schanke's favorite cases.
He's not just a customer of Classy Intimates...he's President of their
fan club.


2) turn the lights on and The Raven is a different club


3) I thought Nick was going to swallow his shoe at seeing Janette in the
Precinct building.

    She seemed to have an unholy amount of fun teasing Nick while she
was there.


            Tim


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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:38:46 -0500
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Episode Discussion Scheduling: Killer Instinct

We are now into Season 2.
The next episode is the 1st episode of the season: Killer Instinct.
Date is  November 20th.

	Tim

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:50:40 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Digest Subject Lines

If you're on the digest, and you're using reply to post to Forkni-l, please
 change the subject line to reflect the content of your post.  Otherwise your
 mailer will pickup Forkni-l Digest as the subject. This makes it difficult to
 follow threads, because of course one digest contains a number of subjects.

Thanks! And for the new Forkni-lers, welcome aboard.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:59:12 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Too much moonlight

Guys, while most of us are contrasting Moonlight with FK, which is fine, we're
 also getting replies on list that are only discussion of Moonlight.  If what
 you want to say in answer to a comment on Moonlight and FK does not concern FK,
 please take it to private mail.  For example : comments on Moonlight characters
 without reference to any from FK.

I don't want to have to forbid Moonlight as a subject, but I may have to if we
 keep getting Moonlight only posts, including replies. They _are_ off-topic.

Thanks!

McLisa
listowner, Forkni-l
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:02:08 -0500
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Re: The Return of the *DEAD* Vamps

> Actually if you watch carefully, you do see LaCroix get staked with the
> flaming piece of wood.  But shortly following that there is a shot of the
> flames in front of the door without anyone or anything there.  After than
> there is a shot of something burning on the floor, presumably LaCroix,
> but it could as easily have been just his coat.

	I've watched that scene a number of times and I'm pretty sure
what we are seeing is in fact LaCroix's coat.  I think the writers
deliberately left a bit of "wiggle room" because they were uncertain as
to whether or not they wanted LaCroix permanently gone.
	With Season 2...they decided to bring him back and Nigel's
masterfully sneered "I am too old and powerful" was all that was needed
to bring the General back into our own time.

	Tim

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:17:10 -0600
From:    eowyn23@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday: November 7

Hi Y'all!

Today is National Bittersweet Chocolate With Almonds Day and the Birthday
of:  Kristin         kris1228@e.......
and  Cindy Faut         cfaut@k.......

You may send birthday greetings to Kristin and Cindy at the above email
addresses.
Please NOT to the list!

Others who share Kristin and Cindy's birthday:
Milton Bradley, Games Man
Billy Graham, Evangelist
Albert Camus, Novelist
Gracie Lantz, Cartoon Voicist; Woody Woodpecker
Wolf Mankowitz, Novelist

Significant events on this day:
1805, American explorers Meriwether Lewis and William Clark sighted the
Pacific Ocean.
1874, the first cartoon to use the elephant as the symbol of the
Republican Party appears in Harper's Weekly.
1885, the Canadian Pacific Railway was completed.
1893, Colorado became the first state to give women the right to vote.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Kristin and Cindy!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and email address to me,
eowyn23@j......., privately, and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn23@j.......
GWDFC, FK X-Stitcher, Proud Survivor of FK Fic Wars 8-12, Texas Knight
Dreamers, Knighties List Owner, Keeper of the FK Birthday List

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:03:27 EST
From:    Lori Isabella <LDukie913@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK on Chiller


"I've been hoping that the new channel Chiller TV might bring  Forever Knight
back into the public
eye once again.  They are airing  Night Gallery and the old version of the
Alfred Hitchcock Presents and  Werewolf and American Gothic and Good vs Evil
and and Brimstone...and many  other classics.  I have Direct TV and have been
enjoying this channel  very much for all the old friends I've been
revisiting."


Hmm, that is an idea.  I also just switched to Direct TV (because my  pig
headed Cable carrier refused to pick up the NFL Network and the Big 10
Network).  I am fairly certain that DISH Network also has Chiller TV.  The
question  then becomes how many of us get Chiller on either Satellite or Cable
TV?  If  there are enough people, then a letter writing campaign (maybe thru
KtK?) might be in  order.

"Bring 'em back alive!" (or at least in repeats!)

Lori


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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:27:23 -0800
From:    "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK on Chiller

I had never heard of Chiller -- obviously not a channel my cable company
 carries. Is this a recent startup channel or has it been around for awhile?

  :) Boomer



Lori Isabella <LDukie913@a.......> wrote:
  >The question then becomes how many of us get Chiller on either Satellite or
 >Cable TV? If there are enough people, then a letter writing campaign (maybe
 thru >KtK?) might be in order.



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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:13:47 -0600
From:    Roxana Elizondo <roxeliz@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK on Chiller

jerezfino@y....... wrote:
> I had never heard of Chiller -- obviously not a channel my cable company
 carries. Is this a recent startup channel or has it been around for awhile?
>
> :) Boomer



Chiller is a brand new channel that launched in March 2007. They are a
 predominately horror channel and owned by NBC Universal but they do show movies
 and tv series that originate from other studios. It's available only through the
 Directv satellite service and only if you are in one of the higher tier programming
 packages. It's also supposed to be available in HD within the next year.



My parents were debating between Dish and Directv and persuaded them to go with
 the latter because of Chiller. Unfortunately they didn't get the package with
 the channel and it mocks me everytime I scroll through the onscreen guide.



While FK is not one of the shows they air they do have a lot of programming
 that Sci-Fi channel used to air pretty regularly like Friday the 13th:The Series,
 Night Gallery, Monsters. In addition to Friday the 13: The Series they also air
 the New Alfred Hitchcock Presents. Both shows had guest appearances by several
 of the main FK actors.



A friend of mine visits their forums quite regularlly and she says there
 support there for Chiller to pick up FK and that those in programming takes
 suggestions from the forums quite seriously.



Sci-Fi owned (does it still?) the rights to reair FK. Since both Sci-Fi and
 Chiller have the same parent company I think the chances are quite good that FK
 will eventually end up on Chiller.



Roxana


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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:42:38 -0700
From:    Walt <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK on Chiller-Angst

>
> "I've been hoping that the new channel Chiller TV might bring  Forever
> Knight
> back into the public . . . They are airing  Night Gallery and the old
> version of the
> Alfred Hitchcock Presents and  Werewolf and American Gothic and Good vs
> Evil
> and and Brimstone...and many  other classics.  I have Direct TV and have
> been
>
    Oh that would be such fun.  Loved Brimstone.  The lead character there
    had almost as much angst as Nick.  ;->

     Walt Doherty
     Phoenix, AZ

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Date:    Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:46:26 -0700
From:    Walt <wdoherty5@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK on Chiller

>
In addition to Friday the 13: The Series they also air the New Alfred
Hitchcock Presents. Both shows had guest appearances by several of the main
FK actors.
>
        Anything produced in Canada will have many of the same actors,
        especially the minor roles.

>
> Sci-Fi owned (does it still?) the rights to reair FK. Since both Sci-Fi
> and Chiller have the same parent company I think the chances are quite good
> that FK will eventually end up on Chiller.
>
        Would the fact that FK was originally on late night CBS and
        Chiller being owned by NBC figure into things at all?

     Walt Doherty
     Phoenix, AZ

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