FORKNI-L
Digest - 23 May 2007 to 24 May 2007 (#2007-57)
Thu, 24 May 2007
There are 6 messages totalling 147 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. "New" show (5)
2. Episode Discussion: False Witness
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 14:31:42 -0700
From: "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: "New" show
And don't forget the discussion about feeding ... somewhat reminiscent of the
scene in the morgue in Francesca with Nick describing to Nat the sensations and
emotions present in blood and why it was so addictive. This rates among my
favorite FK scenes.
:) Boomer
Jeannie Ecklund <gersknightlady@y.......> wrote:
Last week they had their popcorn scene while watch
Nasferatu (sp?) It wasn't even close to being funny
like FK scene was. But this show is a bit more sexier.
I like the playful relationship Henry and Vicki have.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:15:52 +1200
From: Kylie Tucker <kylie@r.......>
Subject: Re: "New" show
> And don't forget the discussion about feeding ... somewhat reminiscent
> of the scene in the morgue in Francesca
I wonder if this is a way of remaking FK without having to bring in aging
actors etc or infringing on copyright of what WE know is a good show?
Having not seen it yet, I would love to see just how closely the show is
to FK and who are the production people behind the scenes.
Kylie
aka Knightraven.
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:08:48 -0700
From: "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: "New" show
No, Blood Ties is based on Tanya Huff's "Blood" books, so it's not in any way
an FK remake. There are some things, however, that remind me of FK in some small
way ... the lighting, some of the character interactions (the feeding description
and popcorn scene mentioned as example), a coroner who's very attuned to
"things that go bump in the night," and the fact that the show is set in Toronto
invites comparison. But it is a very different show. Nick was a tortured soul,
searching for redemption. Henry is very content, and confident, in his own skin
with few regrets and no apologies for who and what he is. The two are night and
day (ooh .. bad analogy for vampires <g>).
:) Boomer
Kylie Tucker <kylie@r.......> wrote:I wonder if this is a way of
remaking FK without having to bring in aging
actors etc or infringing on copyright of what WE know is a good show?
Having not seen it yet, I would love to see just how closely the show is
to FK and who are the production people behind the scenes.
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:15:10 -0700
From: Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: "New" show
Just because a show is a vampire detective show doesn't mean it is a remake of
FK. I remember we had this discussion BIG TIME when 'Angel' came on. It was in
no way FK. There may be some nods in that direction by FK fans who happen to
work on the show, but that's an honor.
If we are going in that direction, IMHO we'll have to say FK is a ripoff of PN
Elrod's and Lee Killough's vampire detective books. Along that vein <g>, would
that make Nick who is a vampire wanting to be "cured" a rip off of Barnabas
Collins?
Personally, I usually like shows with vampires that aren't gorey or too
violent (unless it is like Buffy). I'm looking forward to seeing it.
--Libs
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:03:34 +0200
From: cousinlucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: "New" show
Contentwise Blood Ties isn't a rip-off. It's taken from Tanya Huff's
books. But visually it reminds me a lot of FK. There are the night shots
of the city (although the actual shooting is done in Vancouver) and some
of the behind-the-scenes people, like director Alan Kroeker, also worked
for FK.
jerezfino@y....... schrieb:
> No, Blood Ties is based on Tanya Huff's "Blood" books, so it's not in any way
an FK remake. There are some things, however, that remind me of FK in some
small way ... the lighting, some of the character interactions ...
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:17:08 -0600
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: False Witness
To say that the cross is more powerful than the Bible to Catholics is both right
and wrong. For individual Catholics, a cross or crucifix could evoke stronger
emotions than a Bible. However, since the very beginning of the church, the
words of the Bible have been proclaimed during Mass as "the word of the Lord".
(After Vatican II, the ambo (lectern) where the bible was read to the
congregation during Mass was moved forward, to be even with the altar, to show
that the Word was as important as the Eucharist.) Current doctrine points out
that during Mass, Christ is present in four ways: in the Word (John 1), in the
assembly of the people (Mt 18:20), in the priest, and in the Eucharist.
Add to this the fact that during most of Nick's life, Bibles were relatively
rare, because every single Bible (or any other book, for that matter) had to be
laboriously copied out by hand onto expensive papyrus or parchment. That meant
that most Bibles were not owned by private individuals (except for the wealthy)
but by churches and religious communities. Benedictines (and other religious
communities modeled on the Rule of St Benedict) would listen to the Bible being
read at meal times, and were expected to pray and reflect on that Bible reading
throughout the day using "lectio divinia". (Today, lectio divina has a much
wider popularity, and many Catholics practice lectio divina daily.) Franciscans
were supplied with small Bibles which they annotated thoroughly for use in their
street preaching, in order to underscore their points with biblical citations,
much like modern evangelists. (Perhaps that's how Nick became so familiar with
the Bible without being able to touch one or go into a church easily?) So
throughout most of Nick's life (the first 400 years, anyway), any Bible would
not only be the Word of God, but would also have close associations with the
church.
Your humble & obedient servant,
Angela Gottfred
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