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Digest - 28 Nov 2006 to 30 Nov 2006 (#2006-66)

Thu, 30 Nov 2006

There are 3 messages totalling 88 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Sunrise, sunset (3)

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Date:    Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:26:07 -0800
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Sunrise, sunset

It's been quiet for a couple of days, so I thought I'd throw a question out.
What, exactly, determines sunrise and sunset?  In areas with high mountains, the
sun is visible for much less time each day than, say, out on the ocean.  What
if a vampire (FK-type, of course) lived in the bottom of the Grand Canyon?  One
can see the blue sky for much longer than one can see the sun, so which is
sunrise?  When the sky turns blue, or when the sun comes into view?  Would the
Grand Canyon be the ideal place for vampires?  Would it mess with their ability to
get a good day's sleep?  A fair amount of light does get down there, even tho
it's not direct, would that be safe for them?
  OK, so it's a bunch of questions.  It's something I've been wondering for a
while!  Opinions?

                                   -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."


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Date:    Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:28:35 -0500
From:    Roger Armstrong <eriklebeau@g.......>
Subject: Re: Sunrise, sunset

> What, exactly, determines sunrise and sunset?

From the evidence in the show, it appears that the vampires (at least,
the older ones like Nick, Janette, and LaCroix) can stand indirect
light with no difficulty.  So I would say that it's only the direct
light of the sun that is damaging to them.  Which would give them the
ability to move about on, say, stormy days where there's no sun
visible.  Or, as in the example you give, down in canyons and valleys
where the direct light doesn't reach.

As far as affecting sleep cycles, though, I wouldn't think so.  I
expect that if there were any vampires living in northern Canada or
Alaska, where the night can be almost total, that they would still
sleep in a pretty regular pattern, despite not having to simply
because of the rising sun.

*tosses two pennies out*

--Roger

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Date:    Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:16:42 -0500
From:    "Phillips, Tim" <Tim.Phillips@s.......>
Subject: Re: Sunrise, sunset

>What, exactly, determines sunrise and sunset?
	The wikipedia has a definition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise
	but I don't think it is "practical" from the standpoint of
vampires.
	I know I've heard somewhere that a Islamic practice for timing
morning and evening prayer is to call sunrise or sunset the moment at
which you can/can not distinguish between a black and a white thread.
That actually seems more useful as it does indicate an intensity of
light above and below which our eyes do not function...so it does tell
you how "powerful" the sun is at that moment.

	From what FK shows us of vampires, it does appear to be the
direct sunlight that is the real factor.  Nick is shown in a number of
episodes "racing the sun" and going home in fairly bright twilight.   In
a narrow slot canyon orientated north/south...I could see a vampire
being able to withstand being outside well into the morning and fairly
early in the afternoon.
	That said, I don't think FK was extremely rigorous in following
a show-bible that defined the level of sunlight that was dangerous.  I'd
bet if we watched close we'd find someone smoking in light conditions
that they withstood safely a few episodes later.  I suspect that the
real issue was that the shooting schedule worked with them one day and
against them another.

	Tim

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