FORKNI-L
Digest - 1 Aug 2006 to 2 Aug 2006 (#2006-206)
Wed, 2 Aug 2006
There are 3 messages totalling 97 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. The reason why, McLisa's version
2. In need of travel advice to Canada rather urgently (Off topic)
3. Episode discussion: For I Have Sinned--Seal of the confessional
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:25:31 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: The reason why, McLisa's version
Janette was annoyed at being stuck with no sire after Nick came back across --
I refuse to take the "he and Nat" are dead interpretation of Last Knight -- as
a result of LaCroix's accidentally supplying the emotional kick for Nat's final
potion, which Nick had drunk just before the episode began. She took her
revenge by hypnotizing Sony into releasing season 3. Now the whole world may
potentially see LaCroix spouting doggerl from CERK and, in one truly horrific
moment, making that announcement about getting naked.
So, Don, what did you hear? :)
McLisa, who has been sniffing glue, purely in the course of her library
book-mending duties
mclisa@m.......
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:49:04 +0800
From: eruve erundun <eruveerundun@y.......>
Subject: In need of travel advice to Canada rather urgently (Off topic)
Sorry to bother one and all,
I desperately need advice about travelling from Seattle, Washington to either
Banff or Whistler in Canada in the mid-December time frame.
Please contact me off-list.
Many thanks in advance.
Ell
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:55:02 -0400
From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......>
Subject: Re: Episode discussion: For I Have Sinned--Seal of the confessional
Angela Gottfred wrote:
>If Fr. Rochefort chose to break the seal of confession, it would mean
>automatic
>excommunication, so yes, he wouldn't be a priest anymore.
That is indeed the automatic penalty Rochefort would suffer if he spoke.
Unless, of course, a court order were issued *and* the Catholic Church
decided to abide by it. But, such a decision would presumably not be taken
at the local level: it would have too many potential ramifications. I'm
sure there would be a lot of buck passing--and, for the Catholic church, the
buck stops in Rome.
As far as the story of "For I Have Sinned" is concerned, Rochefort has
to choose between suffering excommunication (if he talks) and suffering the
pangs of conscience (if he doesn't and someone dies). But it is actually
his choice to make, for all that--in the interrogation room--he avers that
he has no choice. And, although Nick is pressing him, there is in the
episode no overt, explicit pressure from anyone in authority on either side.
So, in the episode, it's his choice alone.
If there were a court order, the first penalty would still hold, but on
the other side imprisonment for contempt of court would be added to his
pangs of conscience. The obvious difference would be that the church and
court systems would both be *actively* pressing him to abide by their laws
and threatening sanctions.
And from Angela again:
> In cases of urgency,
>Canadian courts can work quite quickly, and this looks like a definite
>candidate. [...] A similar case, about a man trying to bar his girlfriend
>from having an
>abortion, went quite quickly to the Supreme Court because time was of the
>essence[...].
Oh, my. I'd completely forgotten about this. (It was *years* ago.)
Mind you, if it's the case I recall (because there were actually *two*
such instances of men getting court orders), by the time the court got
around to hearing the case, she'd already nipped across the border to a
clinic in the States. If I recall, they made their ruling *knowing* she'd
had her abortion already, because they wanted to be sure that no further
ex-boyfriends tried it on. But yes: by their usual standards, the Supreme
Court heard this case with great speed. A couple of weeks, I think.
That time frame would at least make it a practicable plot for a story.
Whether it would make a good episode is another matter. It certainly
wouldn't be as exciting as the climax of "For I Have Sinned". (Which is not
irrelevant.)
But yeah: the Supreme Court can get the lead out. If it so chooses.
Greer
gwatson2@r.......
http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html
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