There are 7 messages totalling 263 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. ADMIN: FORKNI-L Rules 2. Episode discussion: For I Have Sinned (3) 3. Season 3- Anyone see this yet? 4. tha't great. (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:53:49 -0400 From: Don Fasig <argent@c.......> Subject: ADMIN: FORKNI-L Rules To all who didn't get list mail for a few days this past week, there was a malformed message choking the list hamsters. All should be fixed now. If you need a hand or have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me, Don Fasig listgardener@p....... or Lisa McDavid mclisa@m........ For tips on managing your Forever Knight subscriptions please visit my page at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/fk-lists.htm List digests are archived at: https://knightwind1228.tripod.com/forkni.htm FORKNI-L RULES 1. No flames on list. FLAMERS MAY BE SET NOPOST. THE NOPOST MAY BE PERMANENT. 2. 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Don Fasig, FK List Gardener listgardener@p....... ---,-<@ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/fk-lists.htm - Subscription Help ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:58:32 -0600 From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......> Subject: Re: Episode discussion: For I Have Sinned I'm not sure that the killer actually did anything that would be considered a Confession (or, as Catholics prefer to call it today, a Reconciliation). The most important component of Reconciliation is sorrow for one's sins; absolution can't be granted without it. But one of the first things the killer says to Fr. Rochefort is "I haven't sinned." Fr. Rochefort quite properly suspects that the killer's very presence in the confessional suggests that he must be acting on some inner prompting of his conscience. But what the killer actually does is brag about how he's "purging God's church", and then he leaves quite abruptly when Fr. Rochefort tells him that God doesn't want sinners to die, he wants them to repent. So I do wonder if Fr. Rochefort, being a bit of a rookie and naturally quite rattled by the whole situation, doesn't realize that it's quite possible that what happened was not actually a Confession. Therefore, he feels that it is covered by the sacramental seal on confessions--and he didn't ask the older priest the right questions (e.g. "Is everything said in a confessional considered to be a Confession?") because of that. But the killer did not show repentance (in fact, he was proud of his actions), did not receive absolution, and one can be pretty confident that since he wasn't repentant, he didn't perform any act of penance for his sins. So I have pretty serious doubts about whether what he did would be a Confession, or simply talking to a priest who happened to be in a confessional booth at the time. (For those who are interested in the gory details, you can check out the Code of Canon Law on the Sacrament of Penance beginning at http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P3E.HTM.) On the other hand, had he shown any kind of remorse for the murders he had already committed, and distress at even contemplating a fourth killing, the situation would be quite different. In such a situation, a priest would probably advise the murderer to turn himself in to police as his act of repentance. Your humble & obedient servant, Angla Gottfred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:22:35 -0600 From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......> Subject: Re: Episode discussion: For I Have Sinned I'm not sure that the killer actually did anything that would be considered a Confession (or, as Catholics often call it today, a Reconciliation). The most important component of Reconciliation is sorrow for one's sins; absolution can't be granted without it. But one of the first things the killer says to Fr. Rochefort is "I haven't sinned." Fr. Rochefort quite properly suspects that the killer's very presence in the confessional suggests that he must be acting on some inner prompting of his conscience. But what the killer actually does is brag about how he's "purging God's church", and then he leaves quite abruptly when Fr. Rochefort tells him that God doesn't want sinners to die, he wants them to repent. So I do wonder if Fr. Rochefort, being a bit of a rookie and naturally quite rattled by the whole situation, doesn't realize that it's quite possible that what happened was not actually a Confession. Therefore, he feels that it is covered by the sacramental seal on confessions--and he didn't ask the older priest the right questions (e.g. "Is everything said in a confessional considered to be a Confession?") because of that. But the killer did not show repentance (in fact, he was proud of his actions), did not receive absolution, and one can be pretty confident that since he wasn't repentant, he didn't perform any act of penance for his sins. So I have pretty serious doubts about whether what he did would be a Confession, or simply talking to a priest who happened to be in a confessional booth at the time. (For those who are interested in the gory details, you can check out the Code of Canon Law on the Sacrament of Penance beginning at http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P3E.HTM.) On the other hand, had he shown any kind of remorse for the murders he had already committed, and distress at even contemplating a fourth killing, the situation would be quite different. In such a situation, a priest would probably advise the murderer to turn himself in to police as his act of repentance. Your humble & obedient servant, Angla Gottfred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:23:59 -0600 From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......> Subject: Re: Episode discussion: For I Have Sinned Oops, sorry for the double posting folks--my computer told me it hadn't sent that message successfully the first time. *sigh* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:25:32 -0700 From: Michele C <mobody_62@y.......> Subject: Season 3- Anyone see this yet? Forever Knight The Trilogy: Part 3 on DVD October 3 Posted By: Michael / Source Related News : DVD News , TV News , Creator James Parriott (TV's "Grey's Anatomy") unleashes the undead for the last time when Forever Knight The Trilogy: Part Three, debuts on DVD October 3 from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment. The TV series stars Geraint Wyn Davies (TV's "24") as Nick Knight, a stylish and sexy 13th-century vampire working as a police detective in modern-day Toronto in order to atone for the sins of his past. Also starring is Catherine Disher (TV's "Murder in the Hamptons") as Natalie, the forensic pathologist who keeps Nick's secret while battling his nemesis Lacroix (Nigel Bennett from The Skulls) to gain back Nick's immortal soul. Fans can now complete their collection with this five-disc boxed set featuring all 22 episodes from the series' electrifying final season. The DVD will be priced at $59.95 SLP. In 2004, Forever Knight was included on TV Guide's list of the Top 25 Cult TV Shows of All Time. The series debuted on CBS August 1, 1992, as part of an innovative new programming schedule dubbed "Crimetime after Primetime." Despite the fervor of its fans, the series was temporarily cancelled after its first season when the network acquired Late Night with David Letterman. Following an aggressive letter-writing campaign, the series returned in syndication for its second and third seasons. The series continues to have a strong following among fans, with numerous websites devoted to deconstructing its mythology and creating new stories based on the original characters. Three novels were written based on the series: A Stirring of Dust by Susan Sizemore, Intimations of Mortality by Susan Garrett, and These Our Revels by Anne Hathaway Nayne. Over the course of its three season run, the series was nominated for 14 Gemini Awards® (the Canadian equivalent of the Emmy®), including a win for Bennett as Best Supporting Actor. For this season, the show was nominated for Best Dramatic Series and Best Original Music Score. Forever Knight The Trilogy: Part Three introduces a new supporting cast of characters. While Nick and his eternal nemesis Lacroix are still at each others' throats, a new police captain, Joe Reese (Blu Mankuma), takes over the 96th Precinct night shift and Nick has a new partner, Tracy Vetter (Lisa Ryder from TV's "Andromeda"), who becomes romantically involved with the new vampire in town, Javier Vachon (Ben Bass from TV's "Queer as Folk"). Other highlights of the final season include tricky murder investigations, spiritual healers, Nick catching a bullet in the head, and a demonic dog. DVD Special Features Include: Digitally Remastered Audio and Video Full Screen Presentations Audio: English Three Music Videos Bonus Previews Closed Captioned Forever Knight The Trilogy: Part Three Episodes Include: BLACK BUDDHA I BLACK BUDDHA II OUTSIDE THE LINES BLACK WING BLIND FAITH MY BOYFRIEND IS A VAMPIRE HEARTS OF DARKNESS TROPHY GIRL LET NO MAN TEAR ASUNDER NIGHT IN QUESTION SONS OF BELIAL STRINGS FEVER DEAD OF NIGHT GAMES VAMPIRES PLAY HUMAN FACTOR, THE AVENGING ANGEL FALLEN IDOL JANE DOE FRANCESCA ASHES TO ASHES LAST KNIGHT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 02:31:57 +0930 From: Dorothy <jennii35@i.......> Subject: tha't great. That is great news, finally we are going to get 3rd Season Dot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:34:40 +0200 From: Sonja Gerlach <Halligen@g.......> Subject: Re: tha't great. Dorothy schrieb am 24.07.2006 19:01: > That is great news, finally we are going to get 3rd Season YEY!!!!!! Carhith -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Halligen@g....... http://www.halligen.mynetcologne.de "Dieser Satz kein Verb." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 23 Jul 2006 to 24 Jul 2006 (#2006-197) ***************************************************************
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