There are 24 messages totalling 879 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 (15) 2. Dark Knight discussion (3) 3. Dark Knight 4. Today's Birthday: July 1 5. Alyce Hunter (4) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 00:24:11 +0100 From: Luicia <luicia1705@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 Have to agree with the Cousin on this... I've gotten into a habit of forwarding past those scenes now... it gives me headaches to listen to her. Luicia --- Cousin Lucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......> wrote: > I never really found her portrayal convincing. She > was presented as a > clingy, needy nerd (that "Hold me" scene really gets > on my nerves). Hers > is the only character change from the original movie > that I didn't like. > And chemistry? Not a trace! > "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans" John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:53:14 -0700 From: Allison Lahikainen <smilewithviolets@y.......> Subject: Dark Knight discussion There's always been an interesting debate over whether Stonetree has an inkling about Nick. This is brought about by the scorpion speech he gives Schanke. I really want to believe that Stonetree knows but in rewatching the ep. I don't think he does. It seems pretty self-explanatory that he's warning Schanke to not get carried away and generate more hysteria about the vampire killings. Thoughts? Here's a transcript I found making sure I had the right ep. :) http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/pilots/foreverknight101.txt Allison unnamed cousin smilewithviolets@y....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:04:47 -0400 From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......> Subject: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 As Mary Lynn said: > I never cared for her either. I thought the character was pushy. >The whole relationship seemed forced on her part. And she was a stalker. There's something seriously odd about her connection with Nick. I mean, although when he's trapped in the boot of the car she's trying repeatedly to get him at the station (which makes sense), she's previously called him at home. And this is quite early in the first episode. Where'd she get his home phone number? Police officers do not hand out their phone numbers to witnesses; and they usually have unlisted numbers. She knows his phone number; she knows his address. Of course she knows his security code, since he told it to her. He *is* trying to impress her with all that stele-reading of his. That instant attraction cuts both ways. But yeah: she tracks him all over town, following his car. Stalker, definitely. Greer gwatson2@r....... http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 01:05:03 +0100 From: Luicia <luicia1705@y.......> Subject: Re: Dark Knight discussion i don't think he did... if he had an inkling about anything it was that Nick had a talent that couldn't be explained so simply as mere human instinct but it never seemed that he believe Nick to be supernatural --- Allison Lahikainen <smilewithviolets@y.......> wrote: > There's always been an interesting debate over > whether Stonetree has an inkling about Nick. This is > brought about by the scorpion speech he gives > Schanke. I really want to believe that Stonetree > knows but in rewatching the ep. I don't think he > does. "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans" John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:24:07 -0700 From: phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 I thought I saw her pull out a telephone book before she went and figured out the numbers for his security code. ???? Maybe. Phylis gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......> wrote: . Where'd she get his home phone number? Police officers do not hand out their phone numbers to witnesses; and they usually have unlisted numbers. She knows his phone number; she knows his address. Phylis (Knightfilli) N&NPacker, Knightie, Dark Knightie phylis_s_2000_2001@y....... http://www.geocities.com/phylis_s_2000_2001/phylis_poetry_homepage.html "We all have our demons." Natalie "Not like this." Nick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:31:31 -0400 From: gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......> Subject: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 One thing that struck me when I was watching "Dark Knight" was the number of little things that went past, almost as throwaways (just convenience, or minor character stuff), but which were picked up in later episodes in the season. Schanke's smoking, for example, was made much of in "Feeding the Beast", and Nick's ability to speak Chinese was used in a couple of episodes. As a Torontonian, I found myself looking at Schanke in the car, trying to figure out his route as he drove around in the Caddy. He took it from the garage to the hospital. Well, we all know about the lack of bloodmobiles in Toronto; and blood drives would have been run back then by the Red Cross, so the blood would not *really* have been taken directly to a hospital. However, be that as it may: we have to put that part of the story down to artistic licence (and a lingering plot line from the original movie). So Schanke leaves the hospital and drives north on Queen's Park Crescent. He's playing the radio, which, as we all know, had that polka on. I've walked that road so many times, often enough heading south; so I'm very familiar with the view: it's definitely Queen's Park Crescent. If he's rounding that curve heading north, then presumably the hospital in question must be one of the ones in "Hospital Row". There are a whole bunch of them on University Avenue just south of College: Toronto General, Mount Sinai, St. Mike's, Sick Kids. So Schanke must have been driving north on University Avenue from whichever of those hospitals he was supposed to be at--and just past College, University Avenue splits around the Provincial Legislative Building and the park behind it (i.e. Queen's Park), and gets renamed Queen's Park Crescent--East or West. Each of them is one-way; and he's on East, which is the *north*bound one. So he's heading north, polka blaring on the radio. And the road does indeed continue north past Bloor Street, only it gets renamed again: now it's called Avenue Road. A little while later, Schanke goes out of control on The Hill--which is, indeed, Avenue Road. I know the hill, too--and I assure you they did indeed pick a good hill for him to lose control on. I used to drive up it heading to work at North Toronto Collegiate, where I used to teach night school classes. There's a traffic light at the top. Oh, that's a lovely place to get stopped by a red light on an icy winter day, when the motor's cold, and you're halfway up. That's *up* the hill: which is north. To go out of control, careering *down* the hill, Schanke must be heading *south*. I can only suppose that he must have turned at some point and looped round. (Oh, yeah.) And the polka plays on. Longest polka on record. Greer Watson gwatson2@r....... http://ca.geocities.com/gwatson2@rogers.com/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:30:07 -0500 From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 > wirickml@v....... wrote: > Maybe a different actress might have made a difference, but > I doubt it. She just didn't seem to fit in the FK universe. The actress who played this part in the Springfield movie would have been great, I think. She played Alyce as a sort of goofy misfit, just the sort of person you'd find working at night in a museum (does anyone really do that?). The scene where she was munching down junk food while poring over those old books was hilarious. Nancy Kaminski nancykam@c....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:55:42 -0700 From: Michele C <mobody_62@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 Ummm thats not true, I was a witness in a fatal car accident a few years ago and the cop on the scene gave me his card, which had his office number, cell and his home number all listed on it. Ok, not the address, but that wouldnt be hard to find out. ----- Original Message ---- gwatson2 <gwatson2@r.......> wrote: . Where'd she get his home phone number? Police officers do not hand out their phone numbers to witnesses; and they usually have unlisted numbers. She knows his phone number; she knows his address. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:31:19 -0400 From: Cheryl <fknight420@c.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 I thought they looked great together; that's where Molly's image comes from. sad it wasn't there. I didn't read or hear that. Cheryl / fknight420@c....... 'Angus Grady; The Beginning--available in bookstores nationwide. Don't trade a treasure for an empty box. ForeverKnight.5u.com AngusGrady.50megs.com BradleyFarley.50megs.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:25:48 -0500 From: Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......> Subject: Re: Dark Knight discussion > Allison Lahikainen wrote: > There's always been an interesting debate over whether > Stonetree has an inkling about Nick. This is brought about > by the scorpion speech he gives Schanke. I really want to > believe that Stonetree knows but in rewatching the ep. I > don't think he does. I agree, Idont' think he knows. To me he's showing Schanke how silly it sounds when cops start talking about the supernatural, especially when the press is edging into hysterics. Stonetree has always been my favorite captain---there's something about his calm demeanor and low-key humor offset Schanke's goofiness and Nick's intensity. Not to mention it takes a real man to wear that ridiculous little hat. <g> Nancy Kaminski ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:26:11 -0700 From: Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 Some officers WILL give out their home phone in certain situations. It just depends on the officer and the situation. I can easily see Nick giving out his phone numbers if he sensed it was necessary. As for figuring out what direction Schanke was heading, you can't really do that in most tv shows and movies as locations are often filmed out of order. I can't remember the name of the very bad movie, but there was one shot in my area that included several car chases. They most certainly did NOT go in order and one shot would be on one Interstate, and the very next moment they'd be on one I recognized as being a different one. <g> So you could pretty much place it anywhere it'd work for the scene. --Libs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:16:18 +0100 From: Linda Hepden <kezia.hepden@n.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 Amanda Berendt wrote: > Re: Nick's eating the hamburger or sausage or whatever that is in the > frying pan..... > > Maybe he should have warmed it up at least. It would have at least > been a little more palatable. > Especially as vampires would have originally drank blood direct from the source, so I assume they would have a preference for 'food' at the normal human temperature of 98.6F or 37.0C. I'd have to agree about heating it up! Cousin Kezia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:33:37 +0100 From: Linda Hepden <kezia.hepden@n.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 I never figured out whether it was LaCroix or Nick who brought Alyce Hunter over - there's not enough info given to tell us who it was. Not that it makes any sense for either of them to do it. If Nick hates what he is, and refuses on other occassions to bring others across, why should he do so now? And LaCroix has other things on his mind (like being both staked and flamed by that ungrateful brat of a son! <VBCG>) to bring someone across - unless, in his haste to get fresh blood to heal his injuries, he is most uncharacteristically careless and doesn't fully drain her. Can you imagine LaCroix's reaction to a museum curator who wants to become a vampire - just so that they can spend all of eternity.... studying the *past*! I really can't see him agreeing with that attitude. Know your past, learn it's lessons, by all means, but don't live there.... Anyone else able to hear him sounding off at his most ascerbic on one of his Nightcrawler shows about living in the past? Cousin Kezia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 18:44:40 +0930 From: Dorothy <jennii35@i.......> Subject: Dark Knight /*From:*/ Linda Hepden <mailto:kezia.hepden@n.......> Can you imagine LaCroix's reaction to a museum curator who wants to become a vampire - just so that they can spend all of eternity studying the *past*! I don't think she was interested in being with him to study the past....just to be able to do it, and I feel he didn't finish the job, that is why she became a vampire, Lacroix got distracted at the end by having a 4x4 stuck in his chest....lol. Dot ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 02:12:50 -0700 From: "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 Hi Everyone Just a few notes--and please forgive any duplicating earlier comments..... As I've said here in the past, I feel that Alyce never got the chance she deserved on the show. In a lot of ways, she could've been Nat's opposite--the scientist who's fascinated by vampirism, comes across (by accident--but comes across none the less) and accepts what she is. Certainly, it would've affected the entire dynamic, producing a tug of war between her and Nat for Nick and the whole cure/not cure question. In addition, that passion for archaeology makes her a better match for him than Nat (which, again, is why they got rid of Alyce). In my own writing, I've pursued this particular triangle and it did get explosive before resolving itself. Ironically, in that setting, Alyce and Nick are on their way to a cure there (gradually). As for the whole 'who brought her across' thing, it was LaCroix. If for nothing else, he wanted to torture Nick (again) with the 'what you have, I can take away' mindset which partially sets the tone for the entire series. Nick loved her passion and humanity. She accepted Nick for what he was (again in counterpart to Nat--this involved an academic as well as a romantic interest). LC took her to show Nick that yes, you can like (and be fascinated) by who and what you are. I think the bigger question would have been who taught her the basics (Vampire Living 101)? And wouldn't it have been interesting if Janette had taken Alyce under her wing? And also, one can have academic passion for something. I know LC understands that. I think what he (or Janette in my alternate scenario) might have instilled in Alyce is to balance that with that need to live in the present. Moreover, he would also see the advantages of learning from previous Community-Mortal World interactions (which is what Alyce would be studying). Finally, as for the diatribe thing, I think I need to agree to disagree with Kezia. While he would want her to control herself, LC is definitely a creature of passion himself especially when he's making a point. Bringing Alyce across was one such instance. I think though that a diatribe would be on accepting who one is, what one's connections are and enjoying them. (I did this in a story called Considerations and tied a flashback into the Pied Piper/Hamlin scenario). Anyhow, as you all know, I can go on and on and on about Nick and Alyce. Again, I wish she could've stuck around for a while (certainly to give Nat some much needed competition) and I think a mucher healthier relationship as well. After four-plus years of writing that ship, that is how it's worked out and I think the show would have benefitted from it (especially Season 3). Thanks David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:11:05 +0200 From: Cousin Lucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 Linda Hepden wrote: >I never figured out whether it was LaCroix or Nick who brought Alyce Hunter >over - there's not enough info given to tell us who it was. Not that it >makes any sense for either of them to do it. > > Nick thought Alyce was dead, so it certainly was LC who brought her across by accident, because he was interrupted by Nick skewering him like kebap (someone else already mentioned that). Remember Nick cradling her in his arms and crying and later telling Nat that he thinks LC and Alyce are the lucky ones? And at that point he was sure he had killed LC. Of course he should have sensed her presence (as that of another vampire close by) at the window later on, but, well, continuity - never FK's strong point. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 11:58:10 +0100 From: Luicia <luicia1705@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 But you still have the issue that it was a 'cooked' meal... none of the juicy goodness that would be more palatable to those on a sang diet. Looking at it, the offending meat looked over cooked if not burnt to a crisp and the little sound effect gives the added impression that it was as hard as a rock... nothing short of Martha Stewart could have saved it from the bin and even then, I think the only way she could have stopped that from happening was by making a table centrepiece for it. Luicia Linda Hepden <kezia.hepden@n.......> wrote: Amanda Berendt wrote: > Maybe he should have warmed it up at least. It would have at least > been a little more palatable. > Especially as vampires would have originally drank blood direct from the source, so I assume they would have a preference for 'food' at the normal human temperature of 98.6F or 37.0C. I'd have to agree about heating it Cousin Kezia "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans" John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 10:19:32 -0500 From: eowyn23@j....... Subject: Today's Birthday: July 1 Hi Y'all! Today is the birthday of: Katrinka Katrinka@f....... and Julie Herrera zheper62@y........sg You may send birthday greetings to Katrinka and Julie at the above email addresses. Please NOT to the list! Others who share this birthday: Dan Aykroyd, TV/Movie Actor Andre Braugher, TV Actor Jamie Farr, TV Actor Thomas Green Clemson, Engineer Princess Diana, Princess Significant events on this date: 1850, overland mail delivery west of the Missouri River is organized for the first time on a monthly basis from Independence, Mo., to Salt Lake City, Utah. 1874, the first zoo in the U.S. opened in Philadelphia. 1967, the European Community (EC), the merger of the Common Market, the European Coal and Steel Community, and the European Atomic Energy Community, is created. 1980, McGruff The Crime Dog, Symbol Character, debuts to take a bite out of crime. I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Katrinka and Julie ! If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send your name, birthdate (no year needed) and email address to me, eowyn23@j......., privately, and I'll be glad to add you. Terri eowyn23@j....... GWDFC, FK X-Stitcher, Proud Survivor of FK Fic Wars 8-12, Texas Knight Dreamers, Knighties List Owner, Keeper of the FK Birthday List ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 08:22:36 -0700 From: Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 I think the reason I didn't like Alyce was because, as far as I can tell, she wasn't a charecter-- she was a plot device. Besides the incredibly wooden acting and total lack of chemistry, she had very little personality or charecter of her own, and really just ended up being whatever was needed to move the plot along: quiet, nerdy night curator so she'd be at the museum; repressed intellectual so that Nick would fall for her; overbearing, obsessive stalker so that she'd end up at the meat packing plant to be threatened by LaCroix... I'm not saying that a person *couldn't* be all of these, but to me, they seemed like peices from different puzzles that were forced together in an attempt to make a specific picture come out. There was no explination or transition that would make the changes in persona plausable, nor sense of an underlying personality that would tie them together, and the actress herself didn't seem to know what charecter she was playing. Other thing I want to comment on is the question of Stonetree. I think he knew Nick was *something* unusual, but probably didn't know what, or even want to know. Thinking back to DK1 (forgive me if I'm wrong, I don't have my DVDs here), when he was telling Nick he'd have to have a dayshift partner, he's definitly hesitent about telling Nick who, and when Nick snaps at him he physically backs away. Despite the fact that he's about half again as big as Nick. And when he backs away, Nick suddenly changes his demenor from angry to annoyed and resigned. I suspect Stonetree understood Nick had some kind of secret, and also understood his determination to keep it a secret, and he left it at that. We all have things we decide not to think too hard about, for one reason or another. -Megan "Eternal nights too short, How quickly melt away, With all the love we shared once, Forever in a Day." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 09:02:09 -0700 From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......> Subject: Re: Episode Discussion: Dark Knight 1 & 2 I too believe that Stonetree knew 'something' was different about Nick. Maybe it was his heritage. I took him to be at least part native (sorry I really can't think of the 'correct' terminology right now). So he probably believed that there are somethings that are beyond the natural world and cannot be explained. He seemed to look at Nick that way. Yes there were some 'odd' things about the detective, but he was a good cop and a good man, and those are the things that really mattered to Stonetree. -Amanda "What princes of the moon we'd be, Two blazing beacons in the dark Desire drives me to take him now, No force on earth will ever tear him from my heart." http://www.darksideoftheglass.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 18:19:00 +0100 From: Linda Hepden <kezia.hepden@n.......> Subject: Alyce Hunter Just rewatched Dark Knight yet again, and was struck - not for the first time! - by something specific about Alyce Hunter. It was the clothes she wears. The other women we see much of are all dressed for their roles and for 1992. Jeanette dresses like the class act she is. Natalie has gone for power dressing, which is the right dress code for a 1992 professional woman. Jeanie is basically a street punk, and dresses the part. Alyce by contrast is dressed *incredibly* frumpily, with long flowered skirts, and oh dear.... just who hand knitted you that lacy patterned cream cardie, your grannie? The reason that she comes across to me as someone obsessed with and stuck in the past is based at least as much on what she wears as it is on what she does. A night working museum curator who goes round in a smart black business suit, or even in the traditional archaeologist's 'uniform' of jeans, combat boots and baggy shirt, ready to jump into the next trench and get filthy dirty digging out treasures from a sea of mud - those would have said she's a professional woman with her feet on the ground. But not the 'simpering little miss' outfits she chooses to wear - and that does have to be seen as the character's choice, surely? Alyce dresses as if she feels left over from the Victorian era - one reason the Alyce from the original pilot worked so much better for me was that her dress sense was better (that the previously mentioned munching on junk food scene), and made her less of a sad little obsessive. Maybe that's why the female list members all read her that way, while at least one male member hasn't - it tends to be the women who read a person by what they wear, while a guy will simply see a pretty face! Cousin Kezia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:47:04 EDT From: Gaelin Wade <GaelinWade@a.......> Subject: Re: Alyce Hunter I'd have to say (guess?) that Alyce's dress was more indicative of her role as an academic rather than as someone necessarily stuck in the past. At least somewhat "frumpily dressed" was pretty much an accurate description of myself and the vast majority of female graduate students I knew at the time. (I started graduate school in 1993). It could even describe many of our female professors. (There was one notable exception, and she stood out as the woman we all wanted to be when we grew up. Not just in terms of her "classiness" but also her knowledge, accomplishments and respect she'd garnered in the field.) Come to think of it, if "frumpy" could be used to describe men, it could have described the male academics as well. Don't get me wrong, they and we could dress up or down depending on what the occasion called for, but daily wear did pretty much consist of jeans and sweatshirts. If we had to "dress up" for some reason, the uniform was long flowered skirts and cardigans. And this was across the board of specialties, not just the history majors. That said, the whole "'simpering little miss outfits" is also indicative of an introvert, which also could describe many academics. (Yep, been there, did that too.) Although I was a history major (of sorts), I never really lived in the past, I was quite firmly attached to the present. But I was most comfortable in what could be called my own head most of the time. I imagine clothes or dressing to impress just wasn't something Alyce gave much thought to. I'd guess that as a museum curator, especially one who worked at night, Alyce felt she needed to dress a step above jeans and sweat shirts, hence the skirt and cardigan. Suits or skirts with jackets would have been overkill and completely unnecessary unless she was meeting with donors or something similar. Gaelin kezia.hepden@n....... writes: > > specific about Alyce Hunter. It was the clothes she wears...Alyce by > contrast is dressed *incredibly* frumpily, with long flowered skirts... The > reason that she comes across to me as someone obsessed with and stuck in the past > is based at least as much on what she wears as it is on what she does. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:22:57 -0700 From: "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......> Subject: Re: Alyce Hunter Hi Everyone, Kezia said: > while a guy will simply see a > pretty face! <taking a deep breath> This may shock all of you but academe especially night academe is quite a different affair and not really considered a business. We *don't* all wear suits to work. (In fact, the majority don't.) As a night librarian, I dressed in a button down shirt and a pair of cheenos every day. I won't be caught dead in a tie unless it was a conference or interview. That wasn't any reflection on me nor should it have been. Why should Alyce dress in formals if all she's going to do is see a few guards, study and inspect exhibits? That makes no sense. As for the depth of character, I'm ready to say 'let's all agree to disagree'. Obviously, we're seeing something different here. Okay. But there's a lot more than just 'a pretty face' there. Remember in my previous message, I suggested that Janette could've taken Alyce under her wing and taught her some things. But to be taught, there has to be potential. In Alyce's case, she's intelligent, caring AND understanding of Nick's condition. So she's a real introvert? Big deal. As I found my fanfics, yes, Alyce did need to develop a lot personally to catch up with her academic background. As a writer, I needed to be patient with her. But she showed me more complexity underneath the usual stuff. (She'd have to be strong to hang out in my universe! <g>) Those folks who read my fics know that I don't deal well with shallow characters--whether male or female. Alyce, to quote Survivor, hasn't been voted off the island yet and in fact, is doing quite well as Nick's consort in that regard. You know though, everything that's been said about Alyce, I see in Natalie. While I like her as a character, power suit or not, she's in that class too. Everytime she shoves another one of those drinks in his face. Everytime she demands that he does things her way. All of these times, she's letting her own addiction to science overwhelm her reason (and the love). Maybe I shouldn't take it personally but as a guy AND an academic, I didn't appreciate the 'pretty face' comment. I would never judge anyone that way--be it in RL or in my fics. My assessment's based on the whole person and their potential. In this case, there's more to Alyce than I think a lot of you give her credit for. Remember, don't judge a book by its cover. Thanks David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 21:52:55 +0100 From: Luicia <luicia1705@y.......> Subject: Re: Alyce Hunter That is true David but you must remember too that in order to create a character for TV as well as anything else - there is a few things that we take for granted. When creating characters for the screen, especially for pilots it is so easy to let the characters fall into the stereotypes for the type for people they are...eg. doctor - smart dress, air of confidance and self possession; femme fatale - otherworld-beautiful, sensual, sexy dresser - you don't associate doctors as punks or femme fatales as women in terry cloth dressing gowns. But once this illusion has been created it can be dismantled... that is the best thing about character developement, especially on tv LOL --- "David J. Duncan" <dante0220@y.......> wrote: > My assessment's > based on the whole person and their potential. > In this case, there's more to Alyce than I think > a lot of you give her credit for. > > Remember, don't judge a book by its cover. > "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans" John Lennon ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 30 Jun 2006 to 1 Jul 2006 (#2006-178) **************************************************************
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