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Digest - 15 May 2006 to 16 May 2006 (#2006-136)

Tue, 16 May 2006

There are 2 messages totalling 71 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. self-loathing, and something else (2)

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Date:    Mon, 15 May 2006 15:55:17 -0700
From:    chris thatcher <mb_the_spy@y......>
Subject: self-loathing, and something else

I agree and disagree with what has been said, that
nick hates the vampire and not himself. the problem I
see is, where do you draw the line? from the
perspective of mental illness, how do you separate the
"real" person from the disease? it's not easy. when
you have a thought, is it your "real" self telling
you, or is it the Beast? And he has that lovely guilt
complex. When something goes wrong that he
thinks--rightly of wrongly--he could have prevented,
what part of himself does he blame? His loathing for
the vampire is always goiing to leak over onto his
human self when his human self isn't able to control
the vampire self; and face it, he's not going to be
able to do it all the time. Natalie with her constant
encouragement (and lecturing when necessary) is good
for him, but not yet as a girlfriend. had the show
continued, we probably would have seen him give in to
his feelings for her, then pull back in terror, then
give in... they should stay friends for now.

and the something else: I had some people over to my
place a while ago, and had my DVDs laying out,
underneath some other stuff. Aswe were leaving, a guy
said, "hey, is that Forever Knight?" I was pleased and
impressed that he knew about it.

chris ;?

"I don't bite.... Well, that's wrong; I do bite."
       ~K'Ehleyr

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Date:    Mon, 15 May 2006 19:11:44 -0400
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: self-loathing, and something else

I agree.  I've always had problems with the concept that the vampire is
somehow separate from Nick.  The fact remains Nick is a vampire who strives
to act like a human.  The strain would be tremendous on him.  It's   a day
by day challenge for him  to maintain the illusion.

Nick  knows better than anyone that he can't have a close relationship with
Natalie.  He might be able to stop killing her the first few times but in
the end he wouldn't be able  stop himself. That's what vampires do.  And
Nick was very good at it.

Debbie

>From: chris thatcher <mb_the_spy@y......>

, where do you draw the line? from the
>perspective of mental illness, how do you separate the
>"real" person from the disease?

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