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Digest - 28 Mar 2006 to 29 Mar 2006 (#2006-89)

Wed, 29 Mar 2006

There are 14 messages totalling 403 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. PRAYER: update on my mom
  2. KtK poll comments
  3. KtK (4)
  4. Raising $$$ to Promote FK--Re: KtK poll comments (2)
  5. KtK/Season 3
  6. Visiting Toronto This Summer - Advice or Tips?
  7. Today's Birthday:  March 29
  8. FK Moment
  9. PRAYER: please send thoughts my way
 10. Heifer International and KtK

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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:25:36 -0800
From:    Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y......>
Subject: PRAYER: update on my mom

Mom just got home from the hospital... for now.  She
has three ulcers, and they think she also has ovarian
cancer and a bad gallbladder.  Surgery is being
scheduled to take care of the problem, but she's home
with us for now.  Thanks, y'all for keeping her in
your prayers.

Laura


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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:30:14 -0800
From:    litbeing <litbeing@y......>
Subject: Re: KtK poll comments

Greetings all,
  I just voted in the poll.  I think there should be a third
selection--"either/or".  I am comfortable with the money going for either cause.
  Barbara


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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:34:21 -0500
From:    Sierra Mayberry <bluefaerymagick@a.......>
Subject: Re: KtK

Like was being said about people being busy with their own lives, well, i think
that's what happens when someone asks us to write e-mails to get the 3rd season
of FK on dvd.  I can only speak for myself, but i always get those requests too
late because often times i am behind on reading the digests.  Next time, can
the deadline be longer?

I've had people e-mail me privately to say that they also didn't bid in the
auction like the lady who posted to the list.  Okay i'm gonna ask cause a lot of
us want to know.  What was up with that cow?  Were all of us bidding on stuff to
help pick a cow to be slaughtered?  Or was it for dairy purposes?  If it's the
latter, i agree that was just in poor taste.  I'm not a vegetarian, but geeee.

I want the 3rd season on dvd, and if running ads helped to get the first two
seasons out, then why not continue in the same fashion until we get the 3rd
season?  That's all i was saying.  It's been a long time and i don't feel like we're
going to get the 3rd season :(


~Sierra

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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:56:55 EST
From:    SField8067@a.......
Subject: Re: Raising $$$ to Promote FK--Re: KtK poll comments

KtK has in the past given to the hurricane relief fund, also we have several
times donated to the charitys associated with LCA ,and yes we have in the past
given to the Childrens hospital, although that particualer cause is usually
covered by Gers fan club.
hugs, susan

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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:45:58 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Raising $$$ to Promote FK--Re: KtK poll comments

Deborah Hymon wrote:

> ***Good Point, but not all of us here know how KtK works or
> what it is.
> Perhaps a brief description of what it is and their purpose
> should be
> posted, especially for the new people.

You can learn about KtK by visiting the Crusader website, located at
www.nancykam.com/crusader

> ***I would love to donate money for an ad, just let me know
> the details.
> Whoever is in charge, contact me off list.

You can contact Susan Ellen Field, the head of KtK,
sfield8067@a........ Other staff members' emails are also listed on the
Crusader website.

> ***I may have this confused with another FK auction, but I
> recently saw an
> auction, and the money wasn't used for children's hospital?
> Isn't the KtK
> auction used for that charity?  If I recall, it was
> something about helping
> animals?  I may be confused, as I've been scanning through
> an abundance of
> emails, barely reading their contents. I would appreciate
> someone explaining
> this confusion.

You can also learn about the recent auction on the website. The most
recent beneficiary was Heifer INternational, a charity devoted to
giving needy people around the world animals with which they can earn
a living. In our most recent auction, we are "purchasing" a cow. This
animal will be given to a needy family. They will benefit from the
cow's milk, which they can both drink and sell, and they are obligated
to give the cow's firstborn calf to another family. This way they
propagate the gift and double the benefit of the donation. It's a very
wonderful, reputable charity.

Nancy Kaminski
KtK webmaster

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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:52:59 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: KtK

> Sierra Mayberry wrote:

> us to write e-mails to get the 3rd season of FK on dvd.  I
> can only speak for myself, but i always get those requests
> too late because often times i am behind on reading the
> digests.  Next time, can the deadline be longer?

People are usually given several weeks to a month to get emails to
Susan. It should take about ten minutes max to write an email---we do
hope that people can work this into their schedules somehow.

> list.  Okay i'm gonna ask cause a lot of us want to know.
> What was up with that cow?  Were all of us bidding on stuff
> to help pick a cow to be slaughtered?  Or was it for dairy
> purposes?  If it's the latter, i agree that was just in
> poor taste.  I'm not a vegetarian, but geeee.

The Crusader website had three links to the charity's website, Heifer
International (www.heifer.org). If the people who were concerned about
this followed those links they would have discovered the wonderful
work that this charity is doing. It is well-regarded and highly
reputable.

Yes, the cow that KtK will be buying will be used for dairy purposes.
She will be given to a family who needs some means of earning a
living, and who needs the benefit of fresh food they can produce
themselves. The family will sell the milk and milk products to help
support themselves. They are also obligated to give the first heifer
the cow produces to another family so they too can improve their
lives.

Given the ongoing jokes about Nick's relationship with cows, the KtK
committee thought it was particularly appropriate to use the money
earned to buy a cow.

Nancy Kaminski
KtK Webmaster

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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:45:09 -0800
From:    Libby Singleton <libratsie@s.......>
Subject: Re: KtK

Sierra Mayberry <bluefaerymagick@a.......> wrote:    ** Were all of us bidding
on stuff to help pick a cow to be slaughtered? Or was it for dairy purposes? If
it's the latter, i agree that was just in poor taste. I'm not a vegetarian, but
geeee.**

  Heifer International is a WELL KNOWN, international help and aid organization
that believes you can give a man food to eat today, or you can give a man the
means to raise his own food and he'll eat for a lifetime! Excuse me, but it is
HARDLY in "poor taste" to give a starving person anywhere in the world a cow
from which milk will provide nutrition and whose offspring will continue this
food source.

  Google "Heifer Project International" (if I've spelled Heifer right<g>) Their
current main office is across the street from where I work, although their new
campus near the Clinton Library was just dedicated. I don't think you'll
consider it "poor taste" after you see the work they do.

  While we are chatting away on e-mail, people are STARVING in this world. Some
people here may not be aware of it, but FK fandom is known for its charity
work. Bridging the Knight, the first charity auction after the show was cancelled,
saved a pediatric AIDS clinic in Canada. From what we were told, literally
saved.


**I want the 3rd season on dvd, and if running ads helped to get the first two
seasons out, then why not continue in the same fashion until we get the 3rd
season? That's all i was saying. It's been a long time and i don't feel like we're
going to get the 3rd season :(**

  If fans sit around and don't let TPTB know we "demand" a 3rd season, there
won't be one. There was a time some fans set around and said there'd never be
FK on professional format at all.

  They were wrong.

  Let's prove them wrong again. There's only one season to go. I want it, and I
know many fans who do. If you don't want the 3rd season, well, that's your
business but some of us will continue working for that goal.

  --Libs
  Libratsie@s.......

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Date:    Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:20:17 -0600
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Re: KtK/Season 3

Regarding the 3rd season on DVD - I did speak with someone at Sony recently
and they said it is still a "potential" release, but no dates have been set.
They're certainly taking their time. I also heard they may be holding off
because of the new format war between "HD DVD" and "Bluray."

At this point, only the actual "sales" of season 1 and 2 will really help us
get season 3. If no one buys it, it doesn't matter how many emails you send
them (according to Gord at tvshowsondvd.com). Sony is looking at sales now.
However, I think letters are important if KTK is still interested in pushing
for return movies and other merchandise (like special feature dvds with lost
footage or bloopers). I also think it would be fantastic if another KTK ad
is published in the near future in SCIFI magazine.

Kristin
http://www.avenuepotter.com/~kristin/Forever_Knight/
http://www.avenuepotter.com/~kristin/Christian_Bale/

>>>  Let's prove them wrong again. There's only one season to go. I want it,
and I know many fans who do. If you don't want the 3rd season, well, that's
your business but some of us will continue working for that goal.>>

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Date:    Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:35:03 -0500
From:    sfryar@a.......
Subject: Re: KtK


  Libs wrote:  Let's prove them wrong again. There's only one season to go. I
want it, and I know many fans who do. If you don't want the 3rd season, well,
that's your business but some of us will continue working for that goal.


(de-lurking for a bit...)

I've read the impassioned posts from Libs, Nancy K. and Susan about KtK and its
future with great interest, and I've been pondering what's happened to FK
fandom over the last decade or so since the show ended.

Fandom seems to go in an ebb-and-flow pattern and FK fandom's not that much
different from other genre-type fandoms ("Buffy" and the like). At times, there's
a great surge of interest, and then... it seems to go into retreat. Perhaps it's
because of FK's absence which may have contributed to the erosion of the fandom,
along with new interests that have captured the attention of some FK fans and
the basic hecticness of daily life which doesn't always allow some FK fans the
time or energy to devote to fandom.

Of course, since we've had no new Sony-sanctioned FK in the last few years,
there is a tendancy to believe that FK fandom is D.O.A. because of the seeming
lack of response by the fandom to any proposed new effort to encourage Sony to
take a second (or third) look at FK, and not allow a potentially lucrative
franchise to languish in obscurity. Yet, this shouldn't discourage those of us
who love the show and the message within it and desire to see it continue in
some form.

The charitable efforts of the FK fandom can't be ignored (Bridging the Knight
and KtK's fundraising endeavors have been most impressive), and if memory
serves, it was because of FK fans writing cards and letters to GNP Crescendo
that we got TWO FK soundtrack albums. So, I don't think that it's unreasonable
to politely (and frequently) ask Sony to complete the FK Trilogy by releasing
the third season of the series on DVD.

For those who don't want the third season of FK on DVD, as Libs said, that's
strictly a matter of personal choice, but there are those who believe Sony should
finish what it started by releasing the third season of FK on DVD, and they
have the right to demand that the trilogy be concluded.

What happens next will be determined by the fandom, as well as the new
technology which Sony is busily tinkering with. In any case... a trilogy isn't
complete without a third chapter, and the FK Trilogy on DVD has to have that
last chapter.

(back to lurking....)
Stephie




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Date:    Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:54:39 -0600
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Visiting Toronto This Summer - Advice or Tips?

Hi everyone,

I am planning to finally visit Toronto for the very first time this June. I
bookmarked some useful fk touring sites, but I would love to hear from those
who have visited. Do you have any tips for me? What is the best way to get
around the city and does Marg still offer FK tours? Any hotel recs?

Thank you very much,
Kristin
http://www.avenuepotter.com/~kristin/Forever_Knight/
http://www.avenuepotter.com/~kristin/Christian_Bale/


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Date:    Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:12:30 -0600
From:    eowyn23@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  March 29

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of:  Emily Lacey         laceyem@b.......

You may send birthday greetings to Emily at the above email address.
Please NOT to the list!

Others who share this birthday:
Jennifer Capriati, Tennis Player
Lucy Lawless, TV Actress
Marina Sirtis, TV/Movie/Stage Actress
Man O' War, Racehorse
Samuel Moore "Sam" Walton, Businessperson

Significant events on this date:
1597, "Dafne," the first opera, is performed in Florence.
1798, Republic of Switzerland formed.
1812, the first wedding was performed in the White House.
1886, the first batch of Coca Cola was brewed over a fire in a backyard
in Atlanta, GA.

I hope you have a very Happy Birthday, Emily!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed) and email address to me,
eowyn23@j......., privately, and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn23@j.......
GWDFC, FK X-Stitcher, Proud Survivor of FK Fic Wars 8-12, Texas Knight
Dreamers, Knighties List Owner, Keeper of the FK Birthday List

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Date:    Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:52:08 -0500
From:    Mildred Cady <mildred.cady@g.......>
Subject: FK Moment

Watching my other obsession, La Femme Nikita, I got to the episode "Rescue"
which has our favorite Nigel Bennet in it playing another serious
strategical bad ass.  *grin*

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Date:    Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:16:05 +0800
From:    eruve erundun <eruveerundun@y.......>
Subject: Re: PRAYER: please send thoughts my way

Hey Kristen,

  Positive energy being sent your way as we speak. I hope little Nico returns
safe and sound ASAP. Good luck with the move too. Having moved twice in two
years (one of them across an international border) I know how tough that can be.

  Ell

Kristen Fife <fenix23fyre@y......> wrote:
  My life has turned chaotic this last few days and I
have a lot to take care of, including finding a
missing kitty that has never been outside in his short
life. His name is Nico and he's named after our
favorite vampire, so any thought sent his way are
completely ON TOPIC :) (He's the subject of my story
"Foundling" which is on the FTP site if you want to
read it.)

I'm in the middle of a really abrupt move and all the
financial struggles that entails. Luckily I'm employed
well and have a strong support network in place, but
any good thoughts are greatly appreciated!



"The price for this gift is the darkness of the night, and the blood of
humanity to sustain you." -THICKER THAN WATER, Kristen Fife in progress
See my blog at http://spaces.msn.com/members/landinn/

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Date:    Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:02:10 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Heifer International and KtK

Here is the url for Heifer International, http://www.heifer.org/

Heifer International, originally called the Heifer Project, is a well-respected
international charity organization for agricultural aid to individual farmers.
Recipients of whichever type of animal the donor chooses to give are responsible
for passing offspring of the animal (or flock if its something like chickens)
along to other families in need of livestock.

The name came from a farmer in the 1950s who responded to an appeal at his
church for donations to buy a milk-cow for a poor village in South America by
offering one of his heifers, whose name was Faith.  I cataloged a children's book
about this some time ago. Faith was trucked to the nearest seaport and shipped
to a family whose circumstances were greatly improved by having their own cow.
When Faith had her first calf, the calf was given to another family in the area
who needed a cow.  Nowadays a whole range (no pun intended) of farm animals are
made available.

What KtK is proposing to do is to contribute the proceeds of the next auction
to Heifer International.

To drag this post, kicking and screaming, on to topic <g>, I can imagine the
deBrabant Foundation supporting this charity. Think of all the cows Nick must
have drunk from in the fields over the years, for which meant he would want to
repay society.

McLisa, who will go back to work now :)
mclisa@m.......

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