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FORKNI-L Digest - 3 May 2005 to 4 May 2005 (#2005-119)

Wed, 4 May 2005

There are 14 messages totalling 405 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Greek tragedy
  2. Continuing on redemption
  3. LCA 8 Registration is open!
  4. FK moment - Blood Banks
  5. POV
  6. Who Wrote That?
  7. P.N. Elrod
  8. Nick & Nat's relationship (7)

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Date:    Tue, 3 May 2005 22:41:31 +0100
From:    Luicia <luicia1705@y.......>
Subject: Re: Greek tragedy

--- chris thatcher <mb_the_spy@y......> wrote:
>
> He's the classical image of the Tragic Hero!
>
> see how classical literature *still* informs the
> cultural productions of our day often w/o us
> realizing it!

Well Aristotle is the main point of reference when it
comes to developing stories and scripts... his 6
points of Tragedy/Drama from his writings entitled
"Poetics" are standard reading it seems on this topic
so  its all relevant.... would love to see his
reaction to his name/identity(?) being used in a 20th
Century Vampire tv show LOL...

Gene Fowler's is the quote... but the Klingon rocks
(sorry OT)

"Writing is easy. You just sit staring at a blank page until the drops of blood
form on your forehead."
- Gene Fowler


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Date:    Tue, 3 May 2005 18:15:35 -0600
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: Continuing on redemption

>  I have a harder time forgiving crimes committed out of malice. . . even
>when those
>are done by a vampire. . . like Divia, who still really bothers me. . .

Not to point out the obvious or anything, but it's Divia.  She's designed to
disturb.  :)
'Rose


"The true nature of the Vampire is undefined, undiscovered, inconceivably
complex, and therefore, Lots of fun!"

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Date:    Tue, 3 May 2005 20:22:18 -0400
From:    Mickey <lcamickey@c.......>
Subject: LCA 8 Registration is open!

May 3, 2005

MPICA is pleased to announce that registration for Lights, Camera, Auction
- Take 8! October 21-23, 2005 is now open.

To register, please go to the LCA 8 page at
<http://www.mpica.org/LCA8/main.htm>http://www.mpica.org/LCA8/main.htm for
links to the registration page and hotel reservation information.

Please check the web site for more information on the auction and other
featured weekend activities.

Initial guest confirmations will be posted after hiatus.

Stay tuned for further announcements.

Regards,

MOTION PICTURE INDUSTRY CHARITABLE ALLIANCE
501c Non-Profit Organization 31-1588233
<http://www.mpica.org>http://www.mpica.org
Lights, Camera, Auction, Take 8!
<http://www.mpica.org/LCA8/main.htm>http://www.mpica.org/LCA8/main.htm

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Date:    Tue, 3 May 2005 18:20:45 -0700
From:    Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y......>
Subject: FK moment - Blood Banks

My FK moment came while reading a newsletter from the
Science Fiction Book Club (see below).

Knight Ranger
_______

From: "SFBC Great Minds" <newsletters@s.......>
Subject: Dr. Charles Richard Drew, the Father of Blood
Banks
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005

WELCOME TO YOUR SFBC GREAT MINDS NEWSLETTER

Dr. Charles Richard Drew, the Father of Blood Banks

During World War II, physician Charles Richard Drew
(1904-1950) headed "Blood for Britain," a campaign to
ship blood plasma from America to European
battlefields.  Early shipments had been contaminated,
but Drew solved that problem by standardizing
collection and storage techniques.  His efforts saved
hundreds, if not thousands, of soldiers.  He was named
to lead the first American Red Cross blood bank in
1942, but Drew, himself, could not donate to it.  He
was black.  When he protested policies banning
donations from blacks--and later of separating "black"
and "white" blood--he was asked to resign.

Dr. Drew believed that, by making "some worthwhile
contribution" to society, blacks could dismantle the
walls of bigotry brick by brick.  He made his
contribution in medicine.  Drew was the first
African-American to receive a medical degree from
Columbia University in New York, and his dissertation
on blood preservation was considered the definitive
work in that field.  He established a facility for
storing plasma that became the model for all Red Cross
blood banks and eased the blood-banking strain on
small hospitals by creating mobile blood banks.
Despite his achievements, race-based membership
restrictions prevented Drew from joining the American
Medical Association and the American College of
Surgeons.

Tragically and ironically, Dr. Drew bled to death at
age 45, following a car accident.  It has been said
that he died on the way to a hospital for blacks,
after being denied treatment at a facility for whites.
 However, it appears this is a myth.  Dr. Drew's
daughter is among sources quoted as saying that
doctors at the "whites only" hospital labored for two
hours to save her father.

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Date:    Tue, 3 May 2005 16:50:44 -0400
From:    Cheryl P <fknight420@c.......>
Subject: POV

I would be the type to protect the vampires, Nick and Lucien included.
Cheryl / fknight420@c.......



Sense what you have,
Don't trade a treasure
for an empty box.
ForeverKnight.5u.com.

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Date:    Tue, 3 May 2005 22:52:23 -0400
From:    Don Fasig <argent@c.......>
Subject: Re: Who Wrote That?

On 1 May 2005 at 4:00, KC Smith wrote:
>  It was the one where Natalie was accused of being a necrophiliac.

I searched my archives (over 6,000 FKFIC-L messages) and found one
story (Empty Graves 43/52 by Dragonlady) with this line:

> "I always did suspect you were a latent necrophiliac, Dr. Lambert,"
> Nick taunted as he turned on her.

and some that talked about Necromancy - not the same I know.

Survivors by Bonnie Rutledge talks about a necrophiliac Coroner's
assistant who commits suicide.

Good luck!

Don        ---,-<@
argent@c.......

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 10:54:06 -0400
From:    Cindy Clark <clarkcindy@m.......>
Subject: Re: P.N. Elrod

Media West is held in Lansing, MIch over US Memorial Day weekend.  The
link is at Pat's site.  Registration deadline is 5/7.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cheryl P<mailto:fknight420@c.......>
  To: FORKNI-L@l.......<mailto:FORKNI-L@l.......>
  Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: P.N. Elrod


  Where's Media West?
  Cheryl / fknight420@c.......<mailto:fknight420@c.......>

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 11:00:18 -0400
From:    Cindy Clark <clarkcindy@m.......>
Subject: Re: Nick & Nat's relationship

----- Original Message -----
From: <wirickml@VERIZON.NET>
> We could use more fan fiction anyway.

Speaking of this, Sunday night's episode of "Cold Case" made me wonder what
it would be like if Natalie took Nick to see a performance of "The Rocky
Horror Picture Show".

Also, for anyone writing crusade stories or flashbacks, the new Orlando
Bloom/Liam Neeson movie "Kingdom of Heaven" looks like a good research
vehicle.

Cindy

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 17:12:43 +0200
From:    lucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: Nick & Nat's relationship

Cindy Clark wrote:

> <what it would be like if Natalie took Nick to see a performance of
> "The Rocky Horror Picture Show".>

OMG, just to think of both of them dressed only in their underwear (if
it's one of those screenings where all the fans come dressed as
characters fron the movie), ROTFL


>Also, for anyone writing crusade stories or flashbacks, the new movie "Kingdom
of Heaven" looks like a good research vehicle.
>
>
Might I suggest that you hit your local library instead. As much as I
like Ridley Scott movies, they are seldom accurate historically (I loved
Gladiator but I deliberately had to switch off the little historian in
my head as not to cringe at all the things that were wrong in it). As
Ridley  himself said recently, his movies are entertainment and not
history lessons.

But it might be one entertaining ride nevertheless.

Doris (who has a Crusade story on her back burner)
www.come-undone.net

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 10:45:09 -0700
From:    Michele C <mobody_62@y......>
Subject: Re: Nick & Nat's relationship

--- lucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......> wrote:

> OMG, just to think of both of them dressed only in
> their underwear (if
> it's one of those screenings where all the fans come
> dressed as
> characters fron the movie), ROTFL
>

Picture Nick in Fishnet stockings and a bustier??  He
and Natalie would probably go as Brad & Janet (yawn)

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 20:10:43 +0200
From:    lucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: Re: Nick & Nat's relationship

Michele C wrote:

>Picture Nick in Fishnet stockings and a bustier??  He
>and Natalie would probably go as Brad & Janet (yawn)
>
>

Remember that at the end even Brad and Janet are dressed up in sexy
undies ;-)
Okay, okay ... I know this is a PG list


Doris

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 16:03:05 EDT
From:    MadiHolmes@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick & Nat's relationship

In a message dated 05/04/2005 12:46:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mobody_62@y...... writes:


>  OMG, just to think of both of them dressed only in
> their underwear  (if
> it's one of those screenings where all the fans come
>  dressed as
> characters fron the movie), ROTFL
>

Picture  Nick in Fishnet stockings and a bustier??  He
and Natalie would  probably go as Brad & Janet (yawn)





I guess that means that Screed is the Igor-type character

Madi"This only leaves the question of who is  Lacroix?"Holmes

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 16:12:52 -0400
From:    libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Nick & Nat's relationship

<<I guess that means that Screed is the Igor-type character>>

Are you kidding? Riff Raff? Never! (although Riff Raff is my fav)

Screed would insist on dressing as Rocky!

--Libs (who got to do the Time Warp in a preview for the stage show 'Rocky
Horror' to be staged in her area next summer! Wish her 'break a leg' for the actual
auditions in about 8 or so months...)

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Date:    Wed, 4 May 2005 15:48:45 -0500
From:    Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: Nick & Nat's relationship

<<I guess that means that Screed is the Igor-type character>>

Maybe not...after all, Nigel Bennett portrayed Riff-Raff in a production of
Rocky Horror early in his career.  Here's a link to the photo on his
website.  LaCroix might take the role just to freak Nick out.  <BG>

http://www.blackhatstation.com/Theatre/rocky3.jpg

Christy
cstillma@u.......

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