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FORKNI-L Digest - 14 Jan 2005 to 15 Jan 2005 (#2005-15)

Sat, 15 Jan 2005

There are 10 messages totalling 262 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Need More Info Please! (4)
  2. Internet Family (5)
  3. FK in German

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:39:18 -0500
From:    Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......>
Subject: Need More Info Please!

I'm preparing for the radio talk show, and I need to know the names of FK
fan fiction writers who later became published authors.  Did anyone publish
a romance novel?  Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks,
Deborah

DeborahAHymon.com

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:08:27 EST
From:    Sierra Mayberry <Bluefaeryknight@a.......>
Subject: Internet Family

I also agree with LaCroix, he said in The Code, "A friend for life is a
leech, someone who bleeds you. There is no real or lasting friendship, and no
one is to be trusted. Who will challenge me on this? Who does not believe that
all friendships must sour, slowly, imperceptibly.... "

While people don't think like LaCroix, friendships end up that
way---temporary.  Especially long distance relationships, which are what a few
people have described in recent posts.  And pretending someone is family is
only going to make it worse when you both move on with your lives.

From Killer Instinct: Nick said, "And what if we take these lives seriously?"
and Janette replied, "Then we get hurt, Nicolas. You know that."  Same thing
applies with online relationships--taken too seriously, you get hurt.  I'm not
saying to live life emotionally detached, but someone actually posted that
she couldn't live without this list.

Deborah said <snip> "I'll agree with LaCroix, "life is a gift."  I agree,
there is something to be learned here from our favorite vampires.


~Sierra

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:20:29 EST
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Internet Family

In a message dated 1/14/05 7:14:35 PM Central Standard Time,
Bluefaeryknight@a....... writes:


> While people don't think like LaCroix, friendships end up that
> way---temporary.

If that is so, then why does my grandmother and her sister have friends
they've known all their lives. Close friends. A couple my grandmother has known
for years and were very close with despite eventually being separated by a
continent. They stayed in touch until the couple died (within a few weeks of
each other) a year or so ago.

I have friends I've made here that although we are separated by quite a
distance, I suspect will be life-long friends... People I've met in person and
have vacationed with and talk with occasionally on the phone.

The thing about friendships, especially long distance ones, is both parties
have to want to remain friends. You have to work at it. If you think you won't
remain friends, then it will just be temporary.

Although I have a wonderful family, there are people who either don't have
family or who have been forced by abuse or other reason to separate themselves
from their family. For them, their friends may be their family.

I have close real life friends I do consider to be like siblings to me.

Yes, LaCroix is one of my favorite vampires. However, he is fictional and I
use real life  experiences to determine whom I'm friends with, not a character
in a tv show.

--Libs

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:46:37 -0800
From:    Chanda Keith <ckeith@u.......>
Subject: Re: Internet Family

>From Killer Instinct: Nick said, "And what if we take these lives seriously?"
>and Janette replied, "Then we get hurt, Nicolas. You know that."  Same thing
>applies with online relationships--taken too seriously, you get hurt.

I'm really not sure that we should keep going on with this because I feel
like this has a real potential for people getting their feelings hurt here
but I just wanted to say something about this.  I was hurt really badly by
a couple of people online but I would never tell anyone not to try to form
friendships online because of that.  We can get hurt anywhere, you know?
Online, offline, anywhere where we're not alone.  But if you keep focusing
on all of the bad things that can happen, you're just going to end up
missing the good things.  You might not get hurt that way but you're going
to miss out on a whole lot of happiness too.  I wouldn't trade the
happiness I got from my online friends to take away the sadness that I went
through when they were gone for anything.  I totally understand how some
other people are saying they feel about this list and as far as I'm
concerned, there's nothing wrong with it.

Chanda

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:31:30 -0700
From:    debbi henson <debbub@h........>
Subject: Re: Need More Info Please!

How about our own Susan Garrett?
Deb



"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of
another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." ~ John Galt

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:15:59 EST
From:    Angela Ulmen <Maelynd31@a.......>
Subject: Re: Internet Family

I also agree with LaCroix, he said in The Code, "A friend for life is a
leech, someone who bleeds you. There is no real or lasting friendship, and no
one is to be trusted. Who will challenge me on this? Who does not believe that
all friendships must sour, slowly, imperceptibly.... "

I'll challenge that :)  I personally have friends I've met on  the internet,
that have become good, close, personal friends over the past  fifteen years or
so.  The ebb and flow of life separates blood family, and  you can fall out
of touch with them, become distant, the same way you can with  internet
'family' and/or friendships.  But these have stayed strong and  steady, for
well over a decade, through thick and thin, no matter what has  happened in our
lives.  It can happen.

I understand completely what all sides of this discussion are  saying, and
can see all sides of the issue.  I simply prefer to enjoy life,  and it's
rewards.... it helps make the pitfalls that much easier to deal  with.  To each
their own.. but I prefer to take that chance.  Just my  two cents (and yes, I'm
usually a lurker, because my life is hectic, and by the  time I can write
anything down, the discussion is usually already over with)  :)

Blessings all,

Ang
NNPack Keeper of the Flame/War Correspondent; Proud  Vaquera; Survivor, wars
8, 9, 10, 11 & 12
"Don't say I'm out of  touch with this rampant chaos - your reality.  I know
well what lies beyond  my sleeping refuge - the nightmare I built my own world
to escape..." -  Evanescence, Imaginary

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:09:18 -0800
From:    Michele C <mobody_62@y.......>
Subject: Re: Need More Info Please!

Jean Graham, but I'm not sure, I think she might have
been published author before FK fiction, but she wrote
Trek Fanfic
--- Deborah Hymon <debh@e.......> wrote:

> I'm preparing for the radio talk show, and I need
> to know the names of FK
> fan fiction writers who later became published

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Date:    Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:47:33 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@c.......>
Subject: Re: Need More Info Please!

> Jean Graham, but I'm not sure, I think she might have
> been published author before FK fiction, but she wrote
> Trek Fanfic

Yes, Jean, Susan Garrett, and Apache. Possibly Karen Welss.

Nancy Kaminski

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Date:    Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:02:22 +0000
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <lcamickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Internet Family

-------------- Original message --------------

> I also agree with LaCroix, he said in The Code, "A friend for life is a
> leech, someone who bleeds you. There is no real or lasting friendship, and no
> one is to be trusted. Who will challenge me on this? Who does not believe that
> all friendships must sour, slowly, imperceptibly.... "

I'll coming out of lurkerdom and I'll challenge it too. One of my favorite
sayings - "Friends are God's apology for family."

We don't all have the same backgrounds or experiences. What I find interesting
is the separation brought up by some people in regard to family and friends.
Shouldn't our family members be our friends too? If so, then why can't the
reverse be true?

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Date:    Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:21:10 +0100
From:    CousinLucilla <cousinlucilla@f.......>
Subject: FK in German

Hi,

I recently digitized my first season VHS tapes of
Nick Knight - der Vampircop - FK's German title.
I thought it might be funny to see what ol' Nick and Co.
sound like in a different language, so I put some snippets onto my website.
So far it's Dark Knight only.

They are fairly small excerpts in Windows Media format.
You can download them here:

http://www.come-undone.net/excerpts.htm

Since you all know your eps by heart, I didn't put up a translation.

Enjoy,

Doris


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