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FORKNI-L Digest - 30 Aug 2003 to 31 Aug 2003 (#2003-248)

Sun, 31 Aug 2003

There are 12 messages totalling 586 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. A day for Natpackers
  2. Nick's date of birth (2)
  3. Question about Toronto weather / Possibly returning to Toronto in
     September
  4. Nick's age (2)
  5. numbers
  6. Admin: Forkni-l Rules, definitive version
  7. Amazon Pre-orders - Price Honored (3)
  8. FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for September

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 14:17:11 -0700
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y......>
Subject: A day for Natpackers

Today, Aug. 30th is Popcorn Festival day.

So pop 'em  up and pelt your favorite fanged one. <g>

Laurie of the Isles
laudon1228@y......

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Laurie of the Isles <Laudon1228@y......>
"There's only one way for me to achieve
any kind of mental health.  You have got
to change." Fran, 'The Nanny'

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 19:17:22 -0400
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's date of birth

>From: Sierra Mayberry <BlueFaeryMagick@a.......>
>
>. Are there any comments in other eps that conflict
>with what Nat said?
>
>If I recall correctly in the first episode Nick's says to Natalie something
>like  what can you do to help this 800 year old body, this eternal craving
>for blood etc...  I forget the line precisely but I am pretty sure about
>the 800 year old body.

Debbie Clarke

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:09:03 -0700
From:    Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: Question about Toronto weather / Possibly returning to Toronto in
         September

Megan Hull <mistrydder@y......> wrote:
>A question for Toronto people: around when is the first major snowfall?

Usually, the first snowfall happens between mid to late November, although
it sometimes can happen in early November or early September.

That said, any snow that falls before the beginning of January usually
melts.  If snow falls after January 1, generally it sticks around until the
middle to end of March.

It has been this way since I was born, with only minor exceptions.  For
instance, since I've been gone (since 1997), there have been, I believe, two
winters that were so warm that the snow melted during the middle of winter.



>And how cool do the nights get in the summer?  Thanx!

Oooh, let's see how my memory is working.  If it's the early or late summer
(mid June to mid July or during September, it's usually about 15 degrees at
night, or about 60-65 Fahrenheit, occasionally the low teens (high 50's F).
During the hot and muggy days of August, the temperature usually doesn't
drop past 20 (68-72ish F).  As always, this is just "most of the time" as I
recall.


By the way.....speaking of Toronto, there's a good possibility that I will
be returning to Toronto in September.  Living in Newport Beach has been
nice, but it's way too pricey.  You have to be one of the characters on "The
O.C." to afford this place..even on "the numbered streets" where I am
currently residing. :-)

I'll be looking forward to doing tours again, if there are still folks who
want them.

W.

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:36:16 EDT
From:    Sierra Mayberry <BlueFaeryMagick@a.......>
Subject: Nick's age

i figured it was rounded (duh) that is why i said if Natalie was right he
couldn't have been born *before* 1196 (1196 letting him be at the most 799.).
Whereas with 1193 that would have made him over 800 years old in 1995.  Also, i
did not mean that almost means within a year...but the 20 yrs that has been
mentioned, well, that would have made Nick been 13 yrs old in 1228.  But then
again, i suppose he can be whatever age we'd each like.


*shrugs and lets it go*
~Sierra

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:17:47 -0400
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's age

the line I was thinking of is  in "Only the Lonely"

Nick says  to Natalie  and I quote "And how on earth do you think you can
help this eight hundred year old body, this incessant hunger for blood
...."

the use of the word body suggests this is an exact statement of his age.
vampire  plus life  as a mortal.  which  makes him born sometime  around
the year 1192/3.

His birth might not have been recorded.  but  his  baptism  would  have
been.     of course  those records  probably  got destroyed or lost  long
ago.

Debbie Clarke

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:51:45 -0400
From:    Mary Combs <combsm@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's date of birth

> he couldn't have been born before 1196 because that
> episode aired in 1995.

It was filmed for the season that started airing in September 1994, and I
doubt if anyone bothered to figure out which eps would air after New Year's.
After all, these are the folks who had no  problem with resurrecting
Schanke's mother in law even when John Kapelos pointed out the discrepancy.
<gr>

It's also possible that Shelly Goldstein developed the story during the
first season, which started airing in May 1992.

Although there would have been a record of Nick's birth, it might not have
been a very memorable date for him as a mortal. Any celebrating would have
been done for his Name Day (some charming N&N fiction has been written about
that), and the bureaucracy didn't track birthdates the way it does now! Of
course, it's also possible that he was named Nicholas because he was born on
Dec. 6.

Mary

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Date:    Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:43:49 -0700
From:    Laura Davies <brightfeather1.geo@y......>
Subject: numbers

Okay, I admit it, I was bored and I had a calculator.
;) Bad combination with FK on the brain.

Nick's been a vampire (as of 1996) for approximately
768 years.  <bg> He hasn't killed for over a century.
So since there are 365 days a year... and let's say
that when hunting, he got about one mortal a night...
That's about 243,820 mortals.  ;) Give or take a few
thousand.

Now for LaCroix...

Laura

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Date:    Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:18:49 -0500
From:    mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Forkni-l Rules, definitive version

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Date:    Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:29:14 -0700
From:    "~little red fox~" <red@s.......>
Subject: Re: Amazon Pre-orders - Price Honored

Kristin wrote a while ago:
> I have some good news. My friend e-mailed Amazon to see if they would honor
> the first price and they said yes:

I hope I get the same response.  I just emailed (very, very politely) about
the same thing when I noticed my price went from CDN$ 29.21 to CDN$ 78.10.
With nary an email from Amazon informing me of the change.  I thought for
sure they'd have to email you about something like this... if it *wasn't* FK
and I *wasn't* concerned about ruffling feathers I'd have someone's head on
a platter.  Did anyone get an email about a price change? Anything?

taking deep calming breaths,

Amy
________________________________________________________________
"Summer afternoon - summer afternoon; to me those have always
been the two most beautiful words in the English language." - Henry James

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Date:    Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:49:21 -0700
From:    Cheryl Hoffman <dayabaygal@y......>
Subject: FK ALUMNI- VCR Alert for September

Well, here's the stuff for September... quite a bit actually,
but I'm sure I've missed something, so please feel free to
post whatever you happen to know about.

As always, please check your local listings for exact dates & times,
I have been known to make typos (and so have the sources I've pulled
from).  And I noticed as I was tying that many of the times were
late night East Coast / early am West Coast...  so check a couple
days ahead or you might be a day late...

OTHER FUN STUFF:

For those of you that have watched o-so-many Canadian movies
and shows, here's one for you....  see how many actors you
recognize... it's from 1981... so they're all much younger than
we're used to.  You may want to keep IMDB.com up, for those
"uh, umm, WHO IS THAT?" moments.

Escape from Iran: The Canadian Caper    True            3,6,18,22,30

&&&&&&&&&&&&&

also this month,  showing of John Woo's Once a Thief --
the original movie (filmed in Vancouver) and then two movies
that were made by putting together 2 of the TV episodes...
(filmed in Toronto).  FK-wise --  Jennifer Dale has a lead role
and the second 2 also have Greg Kramer, Julian Richings,
and also Nicolas Lea (Krycek from the X-Files).    Not great
movies (but then, how many of these are)... but a good laugh
and always fun seeing those 43 Canadian Actors at work.  :-p
USA Network -- starting 6th,  8pm Pacific Time.... all 3 in a row

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NIGEL BENNETT (LaCroix)
All I Wanna Do                          Oxygen          20
Lies He Told                            LifetimeM       5,6
Murder at 1600                          TBS             19,20
Sanctuary                               ThrMax          2,3,12,17,26,29,30
Vanished Without a Trace                LifetimeM       13
Where's the Money, Noreen?              LifetimeM       22,23
PSI Factor: The Fire Within/Fate        TNT             21

GERAINT WYN DAVIES (Nick Knight)
American Psycho 2                       MMax            4,22,28
                                        Thr Max         15,19,30
                                        Showtime        5,18
Dancing in the Dark                     Lifetime        5

JOHN KAPELOS (Schanke)
And the Sea Will Tell                   True            7,15,20,26,30
The Breakfast Club                      WGN             25,27
Class                                   AMC             28,29
Deep End of the Ocean                   USA             5
Guilty as Sin                           Starz           5,11
Internal Affairs                        Bravo           15,16
Legally Blonde                          Showtime        1
                                        TMC             7,8,16,19,24,27,28
Man Trouble                             WE              10,11
Roxanne                                 Encore          7,16,20,25
                                        Flix            2,3,18,28
The Shadow                              USA             20
Vibes                                   Love            4,15,21

GARY FARMER (Capt Stonetree)
Dead Man                                Sundance        2,12,18,22
Ghost Dog:Way of the
Samuri                                  IFC             1,2,7,11,12,16,17,22,23,28
The Score                               TMC             1,13,14,26,28
Skins                                   StarZ           8,13
Smoke Signals                           Encore          12,23

NATSUKO OHAMA (Capt Cohen)
Flatliners                              MMax            6,12,16,18,29,
                                        TMC             13,21
Speed                                   MMax            1,4,9,13,19,24

BLU MANKUMA (Capt Reese)
Mermaid                                 Hallmark        23
Murder at My Door                       Lifetime        20

BEN BASS (Javier Vachon)
A Killer Among Friends                  LifetimeM       14
Murder in a Small Town                  A&E             7

LISA RYDER (Tracy)
Andromeda                               check your local listings

KRISTIN LEHMAN (Urs)
Judging Amy                             CBS             tuesdays

GREG KRAMER (Screed)
Once a Thief                            see above
Wilder                                  USA             22

BRENDA BAZINET (Johanna Shea - Queen of Harps)
Hidden in America                       Lifetime        9

BERNARD BEHRENS (DuChamps - Blood Money)
Evidence of Blood                       Showtime        9,10,13,22,28
I'll Be Home for Christmas              LifetimeM       9
Waking the Dead                         USA             5

KRISTA BRIDGES (Ellen - Hearts of Darkness)
Bloodknot                               Lifetime        5

CYNTHIA BELLIVEAU (Alexandra - Faithful Followers)
Family of Cops II                       Court           6

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN (Andre - Fallen Idol)
Life as a House                         Love            10,11,14,18,23,26,27
Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones      Max             20,22,24,30
                                        MMax            21,26
The Virgin Suicides                     Lifetime        26

CHRISTINA COX (Joan of Arc - For I Have Sinned)
Better Than Chocolate                   Sundance        3,23
Mistrial                                HBO-S           2,11,16,26

GORDON CURRIE (Sean DuChamps - Blood Money)
Blood & Donuts                          SciFi           25

JENNIFER DALE (Countess - If Looks Could Kill)
Once a Thief                            see above

NICOLE DeBOER (Jeannie - Dark Knight)
The Dead Zone                           weekly - check your listings
JFK: Reckless Youth                     WE              6

MARIA DEL MAR (Magda - For I Have Sinned)
The Child Saver                         LifetimeM       13
Diary of a Sex Addict                   MMax            3,14,23

DAMON D'OLIVEIRA (Inca - Black Buddha)
Exotica                                 HBO             11
Short Circuit 2                         Encore          1,7,20,30

COLM FEORE (Walken - Blood Money)
The Escape                              Showtime3       13,21,26
Night Falls on Manhattan                HBO-2           3,6,12,
The Red Violin                          Bravo           21,22
Spider & the Fly                        HBO-2           4,9,27
Striking Poses                          Court           28

VON FLORES (Tran - Can't Run Can't Hide)
Car 54, Where are You?                  Showtime        2,6,12,17,25,28
                                        Showtime2       7,10,18,19,22,27

COLIN FOX (Dr. Nystrom - Near Death)
Nero Wolfe Mysteries                    A&E

DAVID HEMBLEN (Dr. Vanderwal - Sons of Belial)
The Defenders:Choice of Evils           Court           1
Exotica                                 HBO             11
Family of Cops II                       Court           6
Fly Away Home                           MMax            19
Maximum Risk                            TBS             7,10

BARCLAY HOPE (Roger Jamison - Only the Lonely)
Dangerous Child                         Lifetime        28
Dead Silence                            HBO2            17,22,30

SAM MALKIN (Rasputin - Strings)
Blood & Donuts                          SciFi           25

KARI MATCHETT (Alyssa - Dead of Night)
Family of Cops II                       Court           6

MICHAEL McMANUS (Father Rochefort - For I Have Sinned,
                         also Kai in LEXX)
Hard to Forget                          WE              2

EARL PASTKO (Miklos, the bartender at the Raven)
Battlefield Earth                       SciFi           24
Blood & Donuts                          SciFi           25

CLAIRE RANKIN (Fleur - Be My Valentine)
You Belong to Me Forever                LifetimeM       1

CHRISTINE REEVES (Dr. Alyce Hunter - Dark Knight
Beyond the Call                         LifetimeM       30

JULIAN RICHINGS (Dr. Paul Dana - A More Permanent Hell)
Once a Thief                            see above
The Pretender:Island of the Haunted     TNT             16,17,24
THe Red Violin                          Bravo           21,22

SANDI ROSS (Grace Balthazar, Nat's assistant)
Guilty as Sin                           Starz           5,11
On Hostile Ground                       Sundance        15
Tied Up                                 MMax            8,12,24

CEDRIC SMITH (Liam O'Neal - Bad Blood)
JFK: Reckless Youth                     WE              6

AMANDA TAPPING (Dr. Naomi Ross - Near Death -- also on Stargate)
Stargate SG-I                           check listings

ILYA WOLOSHYN (Daniel - Father's Day)
Vanished Without a Trace                LifetimeM       13


Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, NBN, G4, Bridging
"My, my... we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y......       Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo:  DayaBayGal          ICQ:  30464256

Cheryl Hoffman, NA (& I ain't changin' it), Cousin, Val,
NBN, G4, Bridging, Indecency,
"My, my.. we are in a mood tonight.." -LaCroix
dayabaygal@y......       Richland, WA
AIM/Yahoo:  DayaBayGal          ICQ:  30464256

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Date:    Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:03:18 -0400
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Amazon Pre-orders - Price Honored

I ordered mine from Barnes and Noble.  I will have to go check and see
what they say.

~little red fox~ wrote:

>
>
>I hope I get the same response.  I just emailed (very, very politely) about
>the same thing when I noticed my price went from CDN$ 29.21 to CDN$ 78.10.
>
>

--
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Date:    Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:08:59 EDT
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Amazon Pre-orders - Price Honored

In a message dated 8/31/03 1:49:52 PM Central Daylight Time, red@s.......
writes:


> Did anyone get an email about a price change? Anything?
>

I just checked my pre-orders, and they are still at $22 USD. In defense of
Amazon, I've noticed changes in price and then got an e-mail a few days later.
I guess it takes a while for everything to catch up. So you may get an e-mail
yet.

Libby

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