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FORKNI-L Digest - 5 Mar 2003 to 6 Mar 2003 - Special issue (#2003-63)

Thu, 6 Mar 2003

There are 31 messages totalling 1021 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Let No Man Tear Asunder (3)
  2. Capital Offense (6)
  3. Tracy good cop or liability (8)
  4. the ups and downs of Schanke as a partner.
  5. Ben Bass
  6. More alumni
  7. Admin:RULES ARE ENFORCED
  8. Good Geraint WD Episode of Tracker (FK & HL Unite) & FK Back of Sci Fi
     (YAY!)
  9. a question regarding LC (5)
 10. chestnuts, lightbulbs and cheese (2)
 11. Combined response and a couple of questions
 12. assorted things to try and answer (was Chestnuts, ect)

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:11:55 -0800
From:    Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder

--- And at least in my opinion, the only way Tracy got
out of that one was because Daddy cleaned up her
record again...we know she'd have to tell
somehow..either in her report or talking to someone
during the case....what she was doing there, unless
she lied to get out of it....am I wrong?

Mel (who thinks someone should have busted Tracy's
dad)
Who's General Failure and why's he reading my files?



Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......> wrote:
> Okay, this just bugs me.  Vachon tries to deflect
> Tracy's questioning about the organ poachers, but not
> only does he just happen to know "something" about
> it, but somehow knowledge of the name of one of the
> doctors involved has filtered down to him.  Entirely
> too convenient.  Even being willing to accept this
> massive hunk of cheddar, if the people/vampires
> involved are so lax with security, you'd think law
> inforcement would have had inklings of it before
> this.
>
> =====
> Laurie of the Isles
> Laudon1228@y.......
> Listmember: UF, FKPagan, NigelBennett, FKSpiked
> Listowner: Rainbow-Knights
> AIM: Laudon1965, ICQ: 173739497, MSNIM: Laudon1965,
> Yahoo: Laudon1228
>

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:49:34 -0800
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder

--- Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
wrote:
> --- And at least in my opinion, the only way Tracy
> got out of that one was because Daddy cleaned up her
> record again...we know she'd have to tell <snip>
> what she was doing there,

Funny I've never thought she was actually there to get
a heart for her uncle.  I've always figured she was
using the "convenient" family tragedy as a way to get
in and snoop around.

=====
Laurie of the Isles
Laudon1228@y.......
Listmember: UF, FKPagan, NigelBennett, FKSpiked
Listowner: Rainbow-Knights
AIM: Laudon1965, ICQ: 173739497, MSNIM: Laudon1965, Yahoo: Laudon1228


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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:11:06 EST
From:    Sierra Mayberry <BlueFaeryMagick@a.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense

I think, part of her point was that Nick didn't even try it.  Or, at least,
as far as we know he didn't try.  It seems to me that he would have tried
listening to see if she was lying.

~Sierra


> ------------------------------
>
> Laurie asked why Nick doesn't use his hearing
> <snip> to tell if Laura's lying, and
> Megan replied:
> >Some people are really, REALLY good liars.
>
> Absolutely--and if a person doesn't care about lying and has no fear of
> being detected, lying will not be stressful for them--so no increase in
> heartbeat, etc.
>
>

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:39:40 -0800
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense

Unless he had already learned that it was an unreliable measure of someone's
integrity.
                           -Megan
 Sierra Mayberry <BlueFaeryMagick@a.......> wrote:I think, part of her point was
that Nick didn't even try it. Or, at least,
as far as we know he didn't try. It seems to me that he would have tried
listening to see if she was lying.

~Sierra

"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:46:35 -0800
From:    Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder

Yeah you're right....It just clicked while I was
sitting reading this that I was interpreting things
wrong. I was never sure, but now I think you're
probably right.

Mel

>
> Funny I've never thought she was actually there to get
> a heart for her uncle.  I've always figured she was
> using the "convenient" family tragedy as a way to get
> in and snoop around.
>
>

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:48:06 -0500
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Tracy good cop or liability

While watching  Tracy get in  trouble yet again  in  Trophy Girl  I    tried
to   calculate the number of times Tracy  had to be rescued and  came up
with the following incidences:


Black Buddha.  Vachon rescues her from Vudu

Outside the Lines held at knife point.

My Boyfriend is a Vampire  held at gunpoint.  earlier nearly knifed  on the
street

Hearts of darkness knocked unconscious.

Trophy girl  kidnapped by murderer.   though Maybe  one  should  cancel this
one since  she  does  save Nick in the end

Let No Man Tear Asunder..  Rescued by Nick in fight with tatooed man.  Later
  caught  at clinic.  Able to free herself because doctor hears and is
distracted by Nick's arrival.

Night in Question  Nick  saves her yet again.

After that  except  for  Dead of Night   where Nick has to stop  her from
being hit by a car  she seems to smarten up .       Until last Night where
she is "killed"    trying to back up  her partner

With that track record maybe her daddy was right to want  her to   transfer
  to  Corporate  Crime.

debbie

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:50:31 EST
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Tracy good cop or liability

In a message dated 3/5/03 6:48:56 PM Central Standard Time,
dittany121@h....... writes:

<< With that track record maybe her daddy was right to want  her to   transfer
   to  Corporate  Crime >>
Have you done this for Schanke? I recall Nick (and Janette) rescuing him a
number of times.

In fact, you might even say that LaCroix did as he could've had Schanke for
breakfast when Schanke confronted him about Nick being a vampire. Instead,
LaCroix literally let him live<g>

Libs

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:20:18 EST
From:    Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense

In a message dated 3/5/2003 7:21:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
BlueFaeryMagick@a....... writes:

> I think, part of her point was that Nick didn't even try it.  Or, at least,
> as far as we know he didn't try.

Well maybe he did try and it was cut from the script for time.. LOL.  Its
kinda like that 7th shot from the revolver, you just have to assume the
director thinks you are smart enough to know the guy reloaded without haveing
to show you he did.

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:38:38 -0500
From:    Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: the ups and downs of Schanke as a partner.

Off the top of my head.   then for Schanke

Hunters Nick warns schank of danger he is in,  Schanke shoots man

Hunted  Nick rescues Schanke but  you might  say it is his fault he was
kidnapped. I'm sure Nick thought it was.

Partners of the Month  Nick rescues Schanke  but lets Schanke think he did
it himself

the fire inside Nick rescues Schanke by calling  Dragonís attention to him

****

Close call   Nick goes to rescue Schanke but canít really call it a rescue
since  LC had no intention of killing him

***

For I have sinned Schanke  knocked out.


***

then there are the  Episodes where  Schanke  canít stay on his feet

Last Act  Schanke  knocked down

Canít run Can't hide  Schanke  knocked down.

Be My Valentine  Schanke knocked down.


Schanke saves? Nick's life

Dark Knight Schanke  gives Nick blood transfusion.í

Dance by the Light of the moon   Schanke  shoots man aiming at Nick

1966  Schanke shoots man holding them hostage.


Killer Instinct.  Schanke cleans up mess  LC  dumped Nick in.


Debbie

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:47:18 -0500
From:    jmtof@j.......
Subject: Ben Bass

The second time Ben Bass has played a character who gets beaten up by a
chick with glowy eyes and who had been stuck in a religous Egyptian jar for
several thousand years. I wonder what he thought of it.


MadiHolmes
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Actually he liked the experience - said Michael Shanks was a hoot.  Not
sure what he thought about getting beaten up by a chick ... again.<bg>

Jean
Pres, BBFC

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:20:57 -0800
From:    "jerezfino@y......." <jerezfino@y.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense

Unless, of course, he had a nine-shot revolver.  Was
this something from Capital Offense or just a general
example of TV inconsistencies?  It's been some time
since I've seen this ep.

:) Boomer

--- Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......> wrote:
> In a message dated 3/5/2003 7:21:59 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
>
> kinda like that 7th shot from the revolver, you just
> have to assume the director thinks you are smart
> enough to know the guy reloaded without haveing
> to show you he did.


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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:52:51 -0800
From:    Janice Cox <jancox46@a.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy good cop or liability

One problem I had with the show was that both partners were amazingly
ineffectual at times. Was it because they would have to be to not realize
that something was very odd about Nick, or just to provide a little comic
relief? I liked both Schanke and Tracy, but sometimes I wondered how either
one survived basic training.

In my universe, I'd give Nick a good partner, and make the show a little
more of a honest-to-goodness detective series. But then, I'm a cop show
junkie. <g> A funky (but very stylish) "Fanged in Toronto" version of NYPD
Blue sounds like loads of fun to me!

Janice

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Date:    Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:15:14 -0800
From:    Janice Cox <jancox46@a.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense

I do wish writers would credit us with more intelligence and at least
*mention* why the obvious solution won't work. A throwaway line about how
her heart rate stayed steady, or something to that effect, would have made
all the difference here to me.

And, for the record, I'm one of those who wants to see the reload (or
whatever), especially if it's in the middle of something as critical as
combat. It's got nothing to do with my intelligence. Having the hero (or
villain) just shoot on and on without reloading breaks my ability to suspend
disbelief, especially when *not* reloading would have had disastrous
consequences. It's another thing that doesn't have to take a lot of
time--heck, it can be done during exposition, while he's ducking bullets,
whatever. And here I am, talking about suspending my disbelief when
discussing a show about a vampire detective. Sheesh!

Gee, two "wish they'd done better" posts in a row. Hmm. Gotta think of
something positive. How about this: I loved the fact that two of the main
supporting characters (Nat and Janette) were both strong, smart women who
could be attractive without silicon 38DD's hanging out of their low-cut
blouses. They were sexy without ever becoming sex objects. Very cool.

One, two, five!
(er, three, sire!)

Janice

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:54:36 -0500
From:    Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense

Part of the idea of the lying is that the person cares if they are lying.
they have to feel some amount of regret or remorse or shame.... that is what
causes the rise in heart rate , perspiration and breathing.

Those who are really really good at fooling the polygraph simply put, have
absolutely no remorse, regrets or snything akin to a concious, or have
trained their bodies to the point of being able to completely control all
autonomical functions.

IT is easy to fail the polygraph though... Thinking back to when she was
being used as a demonstation and the officer asked me if i liked and boys in
my class.... SHEESHHHH!!!! Did I fail that, and I didint even like any like
that!  LOL


>Speaking as someone who has taken a polygraph in the past, and failed it, I
>have no faith in their use as a screening tool.  If you are nervous or
>stressed, whether or not you are lying, you will fail, as well as if you are
>calm and together and lying, you will pass.

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 03:38:21 -0800
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy good cop or liability

--- Libratsie@a....... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/5/03 6:48:56 PM Central
> Standard Time,
> dittany121@h....... writes:
>
> << With that track record maybe her daddy was right
> to want  her to   transfer to  Corporate  Crime >>

> Have you done this for Schanke? I recall Nick (and
> Janette) rescuing him a number of times.

To play devil's advocate, I think the difference in
Schanke and Tracy's nature as cops is in the reason
the characters were written.  IMO Schanke was written
to be a partner for Nick, with the only ulterior
motive to provide occasional comic relief.  Tracy was
written to try to pander to the male, 18 to 25
demographic. It's been discussed on list before how
the writing for Natalie's character suffered over the
course of the show, I think the writing for Tracy's
character started out suffering.  To be honest though,
to me it was never just the writing of the character,
but often the actress' delivery that bugged me.

MHO, YMMV,

=====
Laurie of the Isles
Laudon1228@y.......
Listmember: UF, FKPagan, NigelBennett, FKSpiked
Listowner: Rainbow-Knights
AIM: Laudon1965, ICQ: 173739497, MSNIM: Laudon1965, Yahoo: Laudon1228

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:56:09 -0800
From:    Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy good cop or liability

Could someone explain this to me? I'm too new to have
seen the discussion.

Mel

It's been discussed on list before how
> the writing for Natalie's character suffered over
> the
> course of the show


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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:59:16 -0500
From:    Annmarie <wench@o.......>
Subject: More alumni

I kept meaning to post this,  Nick Gray is the Supervising Producer of
Showtime's series Street Time.


Annmarie aka Mickey
wench@o.......    ~  mickeym@c.......

http://www.geocities.com/mickeyshomepage

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:58:03 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin:RULES ARE ENFORCED

We have limits on the disk at PSU which holds posts for the digest. We also have
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Guys, we are having an epidemic of overquoting. On Forkni-l, quotes from the
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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:11:47 EST
From:    Billie Lee Williams <McCelt2003@a.......>
Subject: Good Geraint WD Episode of Tracker (FK & HL Unite) & FK Back of Sci Fi
         (YAY!)

Brief emergence from lurkdom, here, and **Good Morning, Folks!!** :o)

One of my favorite episodes of Tracker will air again on April 4th at 10:00
PM.  (Tracker, which the Sci Fi Channel began advertising as "With
Highlander's Adrian Paul and Forever Knight's Geraint Wyn Davies;" oh, oops,
now I typed that I think I remember seeing it here before--we all noticed
they pronounced Ger's name incorrectly <grrrr>; at least they are advertising
it, though!). <--That sentence looks horrid; oh well, too early to be
grammatically correct, LOL.

Anyhooooooo, "The Miracle" (ep # 13 of 22 of Tracker) has lots of Ger in it,
and will air on the date above on the Sci Fi Channel.  I confess I was
searching for it because my VCD's are missing a good copy of that one!  So,
the hiatus for Tracker isn't as long as I thought, and YAHOO, Forever Knight
is back on at 9:00 am on Sci Fi.  Yes, I know everyone knows that, I was just
excited to see it :>D

Forever Hugs and a great day to all, back to lurking (12-15 hour days and all
that....)
Billie-Lee
mccelt2003@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:01:16 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy good cop or liability

Mel wrote:

> Could someone explain this to me? I'm too new to have
> seen the discussion.

Over the course of FK's 3 seasons, the character of Natalie became what a lot
of viewers interpreted as shrill and nagging. She went from a self-confident,
strong woman to one who appeared to consider suicide as a valid way out of
problems in Last Knight. It was as if the writers wanted to reduce her to a
more traditional female role--clingy, needy, and so on.

The Nat we came to admire from the first season, who had the guts to stand up
to a vampire and the intelligence to be an ME, disappeared. I don't think it's
a coincidence that this happened mostly in third season, when USA actually
wanted to get rid of the character, because they thought that CD (and DD, for
that matter) was too old and not attractive enough to entice their desired
demographic (overhormoned boys who only want to see bouncing breasts) to watch.

So they brought in Tracy and Vachon to appeal to the "if they're over 25 they
must be dead" demographic and devalued Natalie. Thank God GWD put his foot down
to the proposed romance between Nick and Tracy, and said he'd quit if they
fired CD.

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@a.......
www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:41:12 -0800
From:    Paffoman <paffoman@c.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy good cop or liability

Natalie became very attached to Nick.  He's everything to her, but Tracey
became attached to Varchon.
I'm not a fan of Tracey, I  miss Schankie.

Cheryl Pillsbury
Paffoman@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:30:35 +0100
From:    Doris=20Weiss?= <dorisweiss_2000@y.......>
Subject: a question regarding LC

Hello everyone,

beeing relatively new I don't know if this question
has been put before:

I've been wondering for quite some time why a former
Roman general, who doesn't seem to be sympathetic
towards Christianity, and a vampire would choose a
name that means "The Cross".

Any ideas,

Doris
dorisweiss_2000@y.......

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:53:33 -0600
From:    Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: a question regarding LC

<<I've been wondering for quite some time why a former
Roman general, who doesn't seem to be sympathetic
towards Christianity, and a vampire would choose a
name that means "The Cross".>>


LaCroix would love the pure irony of it.  I believe Lucien means "light," so
his full name would mean something along the lines of "light of the cross."
It would appeal to his twisted sense of humor and his belief in nothing but
himself.

Christy
cstillma@u.......

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:54:35 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: a question regarding LC

Doris asked:
>I've been wondering for quite some time why a former
>Roman general, who doesn't seem to be sympathetic
>towards Christianity, and a vampire would choose a
>name that means "The Cross".

Well, Nigel Bennett once said at a con that it was a sick joke.

Here's my theory, for fanfic purposes:

We know that Lucius/LaCroix was particularly brutal toward conquered enemies.
The Romans often crucified large numbers of the defeated, especially if they
were rebels.  (Lucius lived to late to have fought in the original Gallic wars.
There was a rebellion in Gaul in his time which could be what they're talking
about.)

Roman men's names have three elements. The praenomen corresponds to our first
names. In this case, Lucius is his praenomen. The nomen is like our family
names. We don't know Lucius's nomen for certain. However, it is possible that it
was Divius. We don't know Selene's nomen, but it's very possible that she was
Lucius's freedwoman or a freedwoman of his family. Most Roman prostitutes were
slaves.  (It does say in the script for A More Permanent Hell that the
flashbacks take place in a brothel and that Selene is the madam.) As a
freedwoman or the daughter of freedmen, Selene would have the nomen of the
person who freed her.  Her full name would be Divia Selene. That explains
Divia's name.  Women's names take slightly different rules at this period but
it's perfectly normal for Divia Selene's child, who would be another Divia, to
be called by the nomen. It might even be her only name. Note: Whether the nomen
comes first or last in a woman's name was not fixed in this period.

The third element, for a man, was the cognomen. This is a nickname which might
be hereditary in the family, or it might be individual to the man. It was
possible to have more than one. A few men didn't use a cognomen.

If Lucius was notorious for crucifying the vanquished, he might have acquired
the cognomen "Crucifictor," "the Crucifier" or maybe "Crux," "the cross."  That
would make his full name Lucius Divius Crucifictor or Lucius Divius Crux. When
surnames came into use again in Europe in the Middle Ages, he could then have
used the closest French form, "LaCroix." He had already adopted Lucien, which is
the French form of Lucianus, as a given name instead of Lucius (which wasn't
used in French at that time.)

BTW, LaCroix as a French surname comes from living near a cross.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:02:10 -0500
From:    "Mildred G. Cady" <mgcady@h.......>
Subject: Re: a question regarding LC

/Doris Weiss asked by Lacroix would choose a name meaning "The Cross" since
he was a non-Christian Roman and a vampire/

Perhaps out of a sense of perveristy, just because he could?  For the sheer
irony of it?  There's some things about LC that make me think he would get a
level of satisfaction out of the contrast between his name and his nature...

Mildred G. Cady
~Merc Mommy General and Computer Genius, soon to be court-martialed
"Chocolate, Freedom, Mayhem for Profit"

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:59:58 -0800
From:    Paffoman <paffoman@c.......>
Subject: Re: a question regarding LC

Maybe he chose that name to protect him while he played a demon/vampire.
Think.

Cheryl Pillsbury
Paffoman@c.......

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:24:41 -0800
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy good cop or liability

I think I'll always have a soft spot for Tracy-- I started watching FK about
halfway through the third season and got to know her for what she was: an
overconfident rookie trying to prove herself.  When the series started over
again, my first thought upon seeing Schanke was "Wait a minute, where's Tracy?
Who is this putz?"  It took me a while to get use to him.

                       -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:35:25 -0800
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: chestnuts, lightbulbs and cheese

First, I must give some background as to how this post came
about. The story might be little longer than some people might
like, for which I sincerely apologize in advance, and one or two
of my details might indeed be unnecesary, but everything will
make at least a little more sense with it. Besides, then those of
you who think this entire post is idiotic will know who, besides
me, they have to blame for my feeling required to send it. (TSR,
specifically the AD&D people; my dear, darling older brother and
for the first one whoever started the current threads on wars and
factions.)
The other night, I was copying some papers by our computer while
my brother was reviewing his Ravenloft message board, and for
some reason he decided that I needed to hear some of the jokes
that had recently been posted. Some of them he called 'old
chestnuts', which I'm sure most, if not all, of you know
basically means an old joke thatalmost everybody has heard but
that refuses to leave circulation. This one happened to be a
lightbulb joke. Now, being so obsessed with Forever Knight that I
have to try to find a way to make almost everything that happens
either to me or around me FK-related somehow (I usually fail), I
started to wonder if if we (the fandom) had any 'old chestnuts'
of our own that I didn't know about (I've only been on the lists
for under two years), or, if we didn't, how to find some jokes
that we could put into circulation so that they could eventually
develop into old chestnuts.
I don't have the jokes, or rather, I dont't have the punchlines.
I'm going to ask you two questions in the hopes that the rest of
you (or at least some of you) will post really funny answers (and
maybe a few more questions). The first one came to me
immediately. If you've been reading this carefully and you have
very good deductive reasoning skills, you might already have some
idea of what it is. The second one I thought of a little later
on, and the answers might not be as memorably funny, but you
never know. Here goes.

1) How many members of each faction does it take to change (or,
if you prefer, screw in) a lightbulb, and why?

2)What's the cheesiest reason you can think of why the writers
named both Captain Stonetree and Captina Reese Joe? (By the way,
if anyone has a clue what the *real reason was, could you email
me offlist?)

P.S. If anyone thinks that this was a stupid post, or that I have
wasted your valuable time either by sending it or by making it so
long, please do not reply and tell me so. I have spent over two
*hours* of *my* precious time composing and typing this, trying
to get it just right, in order to give even a few of our fellow
listmembers a laugh, and my self-esteem was never very high to
begin with.

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Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:17:17 -0800
From:    Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Combined response and a couple of questions

My experience was the opposite of Meghans....I started
watching with Queen of Harps so it was kind of a shock
when he was on for several eps and then boom....no
more Schanke. It took me a while to get used to Tracy.
I'm actually starting to develop an aversion to the
whole third season LOL....it's too different from 1
and 2.

Now the questions

LaCroix: My one nitpick about those flashbacks is that
I watched a program on Pompeii on Discovery Science
and they said that the eruption started around
noon...it is entirely possible they would still be
there because not all of the citizens left right away
and some didn't want to leave at all...I don't think
the pyroclastic flow (really superheated air and ash)
would have started yet, but stuff would've already
been raining down...would they have still had all
those goings on that night? (BTW if Divia had grown up
and not got brought over, she'd have been a prostitute
too because her mother was one, right?)

2. Knight in Question: If the woman in HoD could live
as a mortal when she was her mortal personalities, why
couldn't Nick live as a mortal when he didn't know
what he was? I don't get why she went out in daylight
but he couldn't. We did see him eating, though.

Mel
Who's General Failure and why's he reading my files?

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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:24:23 -0800
From:    Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: chestnuts, lightbulbs and cheese

--- Viv <viv11374@y.......> wrote:
> 1) How many members of each faction does it take to
> change (or,
> if you prefer, screw in) a lightbulb, and why?

Ratpackers, with hands hidden behind back:
"Wha' lightbulb?"

UFers: Takes the entire list to discuss the many
layers and complex facets of the relationship between
the bulb and the socket. <weg>

Laurie of the Isles
UFer and friend to Ratpackers


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Date:    Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:29:55 -0800
From:    Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: assorted things to try and answer (was Chestnuts, ect)

,
She reminded me of what I've been pondering lately
whilst sitting here computerless. I'll throw 'em out
and see what happens

1. If the characters had bumper stickers (we know Nick
would never let anything on his precious Caddy, but
let's pretend)what would they say? I can just see Nat
with "I see dead people" and LaCroix with the hulk
line "Don't get me angry, you won't like me when I'm
angry" Or how about vanity plates?

Factions' bumper stickers anyone?

2. I don't know where this came from: if the gang were
animals, which animals would they be?

3. This stuck in my head from a Vampire: The
Masquerade site I went to by mistake while looking for
humor. What do you think the factions' no trespassing
signs would say? hm...Cousins: Trespassers will become
Uncle's midnight snack?

Character no trespassing signs?

This may not get anywhere, but I thought I'd put 'em
out to mull over and come up with stuff...who knows,
it might be funny.

Mel
NNPacker, KoC
Who's General Failure and why's he reading my files?

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