FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 4 Mar 2003 to 5 Mar 2003 (#2003-62)
Wed, 5 Mar 2003
There are 24 messages totalling 626 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Ben Bass... (2)
2. This Hellish Alchemy question (2)
3. RATS (2)
4. Confusion or Senility?
5. CD on CBC again
6. Admin: A few things about wars (3)
7. Lucius married (8)
8. Let No Man Tear Asunder
9. Capital Offense (4)
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:24:47 -0500
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: Ben Bass...
>Name of ep and character for those of uswho want to catch it in
>syndication, please?
I sen this to Maria privately, but thought someone else might want the info.
I got this from a Stargate SG-1 site somewhere...didn't keep the URL:
Episode 13 - The Curse
Original Air Date: September 22, 2000
Written by: Paul Mullie and Joseph Mallozzi Directed by: Andy Mikita
Guest Stars: Anna-Louise Plowman as Sarah Kane and Ben Bass as Steven Rayner
When Daniel Jackson's old archeology professor, Dr. Jordan, dies in a
mysterious lab explosion, Daniel pays a return visit to his old
academic stomping grounds. Jackson travels to Chicago to attend the
funeral and see his friends and former collegues again. But as he
reacquaints himself with his former colleagues, he begins to suspect
that Dr. Jordan's death may not have been an accident. He discovers
that one of the items the professor was studying, an ancient Egyptian
jar-the Osiris Jar, an artifact recently recovered from a "cursed"
1931 expedition to Egypt, contains a perfectly preserved Goa'uld
symbiote. Apparently, a crack in the vessel compromised the sedative
solution within, killing the creature. But further investigation
reveals a second jar may have existed. With a Goa'uld apparently
stalking the campus and the local community abuzz with talk of an
ancient curse, Daniel must unravel the mystery before it's too late.
'Steven Raynor' was apparently Dr. Jordan's associate as well, and
felt he was closer to the Dr. as Daniel left to join Stargate. He was
the characterization of the 'academic jealousy' that one hears about.
The bold print is mine...
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:37:05 EST
From: MadiHolmes@a.......
Subject: Re: Ben Bass...
In a message dated 3/4/2003 5:26:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
laceye@a....... writes:
>
> When Daniel Jackson's old archeology professor, Dr. Jordan, dies in a
> mysterious lab explosion, Daniel pays a return visit to his old
> academic stomping grounds. Jackson travels to Chicago to attend the
> funeral and see his friends and former collegues again. But as he
> reacquaints himself with his former colleagues, he begins to suspect
> that Dr. Jordan's death may not have been an accident. He discovers
> that one of the items the professor was studying, an ancient Egyptian
> jar-the Osiris Jar, an artifact recently recovered from a "cursed"
> 1931 expedition to Egypt, contains a perfectly preserved Goa'uld
> symbiote. Apparently, a crack in the vessel compromised the sedative
> solution within, killing the creature. But further investigation
> reveals a second jar may have existed. With a Goa'uld apparently
> stalking the campus and the local community abuzz with talk of an
> ancient curse, Daniel must unravel the mystery before it's too late.
>
Spoilers below...
The second time Ben Bass has played a character who gets beaten up by a chick
with glowy eyes and who had been stuck in a religous Egyptian jar for several
thousand years. I wonder what he thought of it.
MadiHolmes
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:46:02 -0800
From: Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: This Hellish Alchemy question
Is there a website where I can read THA? I peeked into
one section of that fic and it looks good, but I
haven't gotten all of it due to just getting back
online and I don't have time to dig through the daily
archives. Thanks in advance.
Also, could someone please give me the URL of the list
fanfic archives?
Mel
Who's General Failure and why's he reading my files?
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:07:26 -0500
From: Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: This Hellish Alchemy question
It is archived at the ftp site.
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/french_april/this_hellish_alchemy.txt
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Steph
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:56:15 -0800
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: RATS
Its a remake of WILLARD. Personally, even though its
dated, I would rather rent the original.
Knight Ranger
--- DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......> wrote:
> I just saw a commercial for some movie
> where some guy trains an army of rats
>
> "They'll do my bigging . . . . HA HA HA HA!!!"
>
>
> I suddenly had this immage of screed
> standing in a super hero pose saying
>
> "Don't worry . . . . I'll stop him.
> This looks like a job for SUPER SCREED!!!"
>
>
> Screedie in the mood for a nosh . . . . . (Smacking lips)
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:27:07 -0500
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Confusion or Senility?
I, in my zeal to acquire a copy of EVERY FK Fanfic ever written have
become more than confused. I have stories named 'Sins of the Father'
by three authors, all different. (David Duncan, Molly
Schneider-Stormborn, and Celine Knight)
Now, I have Celine Knight filed under at least 4 aliases. That
doesn't bother me either.
BUT-Celine/Summer/Knightmuzic/Meliza ALREADY HAS A STORY BY THE TITLE
'Sins of the Father'. (Yes, I did mean to yell. I am VERY confused
and thought yelling would get me some help faster than if I asked
very quietly. Although my yelling is being done politely.)
Yet the first 6 parts of the new 'Sins of the Father' are totally
different from her already treasured 'Sins of the Father' which is a
Man from U.N.C.L.E. cross-over (and adult) (and good).
Meliza, please let me know if I have hit senility and you actually
haven't got two stories by the same name...or that I'm just confused
and that these are totally different, but you liked the name so much
you thought you'd use it again...
And I thought old-age would be fun.
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:31:19 -0700
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: CD on CBC again
While listening to CBC Radio One yesterday, I caught a bit of Catherine
Disher returning in the lead role of "Mary Marvelous", a half-hour comic
radio drama about " a mother of two with super powers torn between being
a mom and saving the world". http://cbc.ca/showcase/mnpb_winter2003.html
http://cbc.ca/insite/RICHARDSONS_ROUNDUP_VANCOUVER/2003/3/3.html
There will be another installment next Monday at 3:30 local time.
If you don't get CBC where you live, you can still listen to it on the
Internet in RealAudio (you can download the RealAudio player for free if
you don't have it already); figure out what Canadian city is in your
time zone, then go to http://www.cbc.ca/audio.html
next Monday at 3:30 p.m. to listen "live".
Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Ligeia
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:40:24 -0500
From: Don Fasig <argent@c.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: A few things about wars
> It didn't say anything about wars.
By default new subscriptions are set to NOT receive the WAR: topic. So if you
haven't set the topic (+WAR:) and query the listserver it won't say anything
about it.
The topic functions all the time, just doesn't get used much except during
Wars.
Don Fasig, FK List Gardener
argent@c....... ---,-<@
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/fk-lists.htm - Subscription Help
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:52:00 -0800
From: E McCann <salems.human@c.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: A few things about wars
At 12:36 PM 3/4/2003, Viv typed thusly:
>It didn't say anything about wars.
... and bounces them back saying "invalid subscription option" if you try
to add it - isn't this a "part time" option? (It's been a while. <g>)_
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:10:07 -0500
From: Don Fasig <argent@c.......>
Subject: Re: Admin: A few things about wars
On 4 Mar 2003 E McCann wrote:
> ... and bounces them back saying "invalid subscription option" if you try
> to add it - isn't this a "part time" option? (It's been a while. <g>)_
Sounds like a problem with the command syntax - it has to be just right to
work. You could try cutting and pasting the command from my Subscription Help
page - http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/fk-lists.htm
Don Fasig, FK List Gardener
argent@c....... ---,-<@
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/fk-lists.htm - Subscription Help
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:26:20 -0800
From: Bonnie <callalily@l.......>
Subject: Re: RATS
At 05:00 PM 3/4/03 -0500, DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......> wrote:
>I just saw a commercial for some movie
>where some guy trains an army of rats
This movie is called "Willard" (it's a remake). Willard (Crispin Glover) is
the guy and his best friend is a rat named Ben. That's one of the reasons
that, in the last war, Tracy named her newly acquired pet rat "Ben"!
(Though, I'm not sure anyone got the reference at the time.)
Bonnie
Cousinly Receptionist In Training
callalily@l.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 06:09:48 -0800
From: Beverly Collins-LaCroix <beverlylacroix@w.......>
Subject: Lucius married
Was Lucious (sp) married? And if he wasn't, does anyone know if it's
because he was a Roman general under, was it Julius Caesar?
Beverly Collins-LaCroix
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:32:36 +0100
From: Doris=20Weiss?= <dorisweiss_2000@y.......>
Subject: Re: Lucius married
--- Beverly Collins-LaCroix
<beverlylacroix@w.......> schrieb:
> Was Lucious (sp) married? And if he wasn't, does
> anyone know if it's
> because he was a Roman general under, was it Julius
> Caesar?
As far as I know Lucius was never married to Selene,
she was only his steady concubine. His bachelor status
was not necessary to a Roman general. It was only the
ordinary troops that weren't allowed to be married.
If we say that Lucius was 48 when he was brought
across, - he was born, in 31, under emperor Tiberius,
must have entered military service late under Claudius
and during Nero's, became a general under emperor
Vespasianus and was brought across under Titus.
Doris
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:09:34 -0800
From: Paffoman <paffoman@c.......>
Subject: Re: Lucius married
no and he thought he was a god that why he thought he couldn't die till diva
came along. stay safe.
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:40:23 -0800
From: Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
Subject: Re: Lucius married
What about what he told Nick..."I taught Nero the tune
and together we watched Rome burn..."? Could he have
had enough influence before he was a general for that
part....or was he a general then? And how do we know
he wasn't married to Selene? Just curious.
Mel
KoC, NNPacker
Who's General Failure and why's he reading my files?
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:48:47 -0500
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Lucius married
In a message dated 3/5/2003 11:40:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sgt_buck_frobisher@y....... writes:
> And how do we know
> he wasn't married to Selene?
Selene was a prostitute. This comes up from time to time and I think the clue is
the color of her clothing. Plus, I believe, it is mentioned in the script (am I
wrong with that point?).
In addition, if he was the husband of Selene and public father of Diva, he would
NOT have had to ask to see his daughter. The husband ruled the roost.
(It has been a long time since I saw the episode, but I do recall the
explanations on this list<g>)
Libs
Libratsie@a.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:21:49 -0800
From: Paffoman <paffoman@c.......>
Subject: Re: Lucius married
They were never married, just lovers. Diva is her daughter, he called her
his because of Selena. Lacroix was a general among the gods and he dared to
call himself one.
Cheryl Pillsbury
Paffoman@c.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:26:33 -0800
From: Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Let No Man Tear Asunder
Okay, this just bugs me. Vachon tries to deflect
Tracy's questioning about the organ poachers, but not
only does he just happen to know "something" about it,
but somehow knowledge of the name of one of the
doctors involved has filtered down to him. Entirely
too convenient. Even being willing to accept this
massive hunk of cheddar, if the people/vampires
involved are so lax with security, you'd think law
inforcement would have had inklings of it before this.
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:36:19 -0800
From: Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......>
Subject: Capital Offense
A clumsy error/plot device in a recently-aired episode
of The Sentinel put me in mind of almost the exact
same situation in Forever Knight. In Capital Offense
why doesn't Nick just use his hearing to monitor the
fugitive Laura's heartbeat and respiration to tell if
she's lying or not? It seems to me that with both TS
and FK writer's either weren't as familiar with the
show as they should be, or chose to ignore
characteristics already established for Jim and Nick
respectively. Makes for lazy storytelling, IMO.
Laurie of the Isles
Laudon1228@y.......
Nitpicker? Me? <g>
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:13:42 -0800
From: Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense
Some people are really, REALLY good liars. Good enough to fool a polygraph.
I've never tried the polygraph, but I'm pretty darn good, myself.
-Megan
Laurie of the Isles <laudon1228@y.......> wrote: In Capital Offense
why doesn't Nick just use his hearing to monitor the
fugitive Laura's heartbeat and respiration to tell if
she's lying or not?
"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:14:59 -0800
From: Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Lucius married
Well, why not? The ceasar's were 'gods on earth', and Lucius was a darn sight
smarter and more talented then a lot of those.
-Megan
Paffoman <paffoman@c.......> wrote:Lacroix was a general among the gods and
he dared to call himself one.
"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:36:23 -0800
From: Paffoman <paffoman@c.......>
Subject: Re: Lucius married
because he dared to compare or be better then the gods, his world was
destroyed and he was sentenced to live in hell whether it was by the gods or
diva. hell all around, either way. sad to me though. i like Lacroix. i
feel sadness and loneness for him.
Cheryl Pillsbury
Paffoman@c.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:01:05 EST
From: Michele Canterbury <Mobody@a.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense
In a message dated 3/5/03 3:14:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mistrydder@y....... writes:
> Some people are really, REALLY good liars. Good enough to fool a polygraph.
> I've never tried the polygraph, but I'm pretty darn good, myself.
> -Megan
Speaking as someone who has taken a polygraph in the past, and failed it, I
have no faith in their use as a screening tool. If you are nervous or
stressed, whether or not you are lying, you will fail, as well as if you are
calm and together and lying, you will pass.
Michele
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Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:10:15 -0500
From: Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Capital Offense
Laurie asked why Nick doesn't use his hearing
<snip> to tell if Laura's lying, and
Megan replied:
>Some people are really, REALLY good liars.
Absolutely--and if a person doesn't care about lying and has no fear of
being detected, lying will not be stressful for them--so no increase in
heartbeat, etc.
Mary
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