FORKNI-L Digest - 21 Dec 2002 to 22 Dec 2002 (#2002-371)
Sun, 22 Dec 2002
There are 8 messages totalling 395 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
2. The West Wing and FK
3. YKYBWTMFK / A Weird thing happened (2)
5. FK trivia quizzes at my site
6. Letter of Appreciation to Cast and Crew
7. Admin: Forkni-l rules and holiday wishes
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:39:55 -0800
From: Amanda Berendt <debrabant_foundation@y.......>
My dad is watching "Vampire in Brooklyn" with Eddie Murphy. I went
into the living room to see what he was watching when I heard "He's
on Bay Street" I immediatly thought of The Fix when Nick said it
would be bad if he spontaneously combusted in the middle of Bay
Sitting and watching the movie for a few minutes I discover the femal
detective's last name is Vetter!!!!
Were the makers of this movie FK fans?
"Dreams are portable - I carry mine with me"
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 21:26:02 EST
Subject: The West Wing and FK
What you ask does FK have to do with the West Wing.
Well, I was finally getting the chance to catch up with my video recordings
of shows I've missed when in the middle of the West Wing, the Presidents
daughter joins her father and ask if her new boyfriend, Jean-Paul , of French
royalty, the 23 con of deBrabant could go away with the family for the
Did anyone else notice the use of the deBrabant family name. And now in this
generation, they made it into French Royalty.
Happy Holidays to all. Health and Happiness to everyone.
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:51:39 -0800
From: Victor Roscetti <dragonslair_08060@y.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFK / A Weird thing happened
I have one! I just bought a computer game yesterday,
for $4.99 in a bargain bin, called "Far Gate", very
much like Babylon Five, space ships, three different
Races, battles, etc.... anyway... It practically
called to me to buy it!
I was setting up the game commands and there is a
voice prompt that says "excellant". You can tell if
the voice is too soft or loud and adjust your system.
Then as I played the game the same voice teaches you
about all the controls and basically how to play the
game. I swore the voice sounded like Nigel Bennett
(LaCroix), so I looked in the credits for his name.
There was a voice actor from Canada who was just
listed as "Nigel" .... weird huh. I swear it was
him. Does anyone know if it really is our Uncle?
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 06:17:27 EST
From: Shenandora DeWynst <Shenandora@a.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFK / A Weird thing happened
In einer eMail vom 22.12.02 05:52:27 (MEZ) Mitteleurop=E4ische Zeit schreibt
> There was a voice actor from Canada who was just
> listed as "Nigel" .... weird huh. I swear it was
> him. Does anyone know if it really is our Uncle?
Hi Vic - I am pretty sure that he didn't?!
(...or did I miss it? ;-) )
Shenandora aka Heike
world of Darkness</A>
<A HREF=3D"http://knighthaven.de.vu/">The German Forever Knight Haven</A>
*Dare you trust the Knight*
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 04:09:44 -0800
From: Patty Costantino <pas_20197@y.......>
I've got one, too. …. Yesterday, while on a Christmas shopping expedition to a
nearby town, I entered a dimly lit shop called the Crow and *Raven*, which sold
various knickknacks, but mainly, of all things, *candles*. Immediately, I'd
assumed Janette had switched professions from glamorous Toronto nightclub owner
to countrified “tedious” retail merchant and expected to see her behind the
counter, decked out in one of her heavy, red textured Scarlett O’Hara drapery/
portiere gowns, holding a long-stemed cigarette, drinking one of her finest
vintages. But, instead, a fair-headed woman, about my age, 40ish, was there to
assist me. Not the raven beauty! <G>
BTW, as an aside, and please don't stake me Ravenettes, but I always thought
the heavy fabrics and raised patterns on Janette's red gowns resembled
upholstery fabric or drapery material. Every time I see her in an episode,
wearing one of those, I’m reminded of that infamous Carol Burnett show when she
had the curtain rod draped across her shoulders through her dress, lampooning
that one scene in GWTW. Perhaps some of you remember that.) <BG>
N&Npacker, Knightie with Dark Tendencies
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 04:44:15 -0800
From: Patty Costantino <pas_20197@y.......>
Subject: FK trivia quizzes at my site
Just wanted to let you know I’ve added a quiz corner to my site. What is it,
“inquiring minds” might ask? <g> Well.... It's a place where you may test
your exceptional skills and superb knowledge on FK trivia.
Thus far, I’ve completed two of these: LaCroix and FK politics. So if you’ve got
a moment in your hectic, holiday schedule, please give them a go. Although you
might find some questions to be too easy, others, I hope, are difficult and
challenging. If there are mistakes, please let me know by emailing me offlist.
I’ll be happy to change them. And, good luck!
Also, thanks to Kristin, I’ve added pictures from her image archive to my
stories and filks in an attempt to enhance the plots in my serious fiction and
create more humor in my filks and Judge Trudy series. (At least, that was my
intent and I hope I improved them and not the opposite. <g>)
Please take a look, if you get a chance. Thanks!
Take Care and Happy Holidays!
N&Npacker, Knightie with Dark Tendencies
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:15:35 -0600
From: Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Letter of Appreciation to Cast and Crew
To the Cast and Crew of Forever Knight
Several of the followers of Forever Knight have decided to band together
to produce an open letter of thanks and sincere appreciation to the
professionals who gave us a television show of such high quality. A show
that today still gives us so much enjoyment. Many shows come and go, some
without much notice. However, we believe that Forever Knight was and remains
very special. In particular, the chemistry that was evident among the actors
(and undoubtedly the crew) is superlative. We believe it is this timeless,
high level of chemistry and professionalism that has led to the large
following of fans who continue to support the show and who long for the
release of DVD's, additional episodes, movies and novels.
Over the years, Vampires have been depicted as slavering monsters,
single-minded predators, feral beasts and raving psychotics. Nowhere had we
seen a treatment of this enduring myth that touched on the truly tragic and
human quality of this immortal being -- until 1992, that is, when a Canadian
television production company dared to take this legend seriously. What if
one took a truly good man and changed him to a creature of evil? Surely the
inevitable result would be a being torn by good and evil, a microcosm of the
human condition. Nicholas and his search for redemption made for a
fascinating, compelling and thought-provoking TV series, the likes of which
we may never see again. In addition to its great writing, this show was
favored with an exceptional company of actors.
Carrying the weight of the show, Geraint Wyn Davies was a perfect choice
for the 800- year old Vampire with a conscience. We don't know if another
could ever have captured our hearts as completely as he did. Who among us
cannot understand on some level the need Nick feels to be a little more
human (something, we mere mortals, should strive to do more.) Surely, at
times, we can all relate to Nick's struggle to do the right thing, to atone
for the past. And, like Nick, sometimes we succeed and sometimes we do not.
We can only learn and try harder.
Lucien Lacroix, the imperious, sensuous and eloquent Vampire master,
played to the hilt by Nigel Bennett, was the perfect foil for Nick.
Catherine Disher's strong, humorous and sensitive portrayal of Dr. Natalie
Lambert made her the perfect complement to Nick's dark metaphysical
struggle. The stunning Deborah Duchêne as Janette helped complete the
balance and her gracious presence was sorely missed in the third season. No
mention of the cast would be complete without everyone's favorite
Everyman---the multi-talented John Kapelos as Detective Don Schanke. And
though we were all shocked when Schanke left at the beginning of Season
Three, Tracey Vetter, as played by Lisa Ryder, soon began to find a place in
The effect of these leading characters was made even greater by the fine
performances of the rest of the ensemble who gave life (or perhaps "unlife"
in some cases) to the other characters: The Captains-Gary Farmer as
Stonetree, Natsuko Ohama as Cohen and Blu Mankuma as Reese, The Vampires -
Ben Bass as Javier, Kristen Lehman as Urs and Greg Kramer as Screed, and the
numerous and talented supporting cast members - many are familiar faces
We understand that actors are only a part of the crew that makes a show
such as this possible. To Fred Mollin our thanks for the wonderful music; it
set the mood, enhanced the scenes and brought all of the show's elements
together. Let us not forget the creators, James D. Parriott and Barney
Cohen, all of the producers, the writers and the "behind the scenes people".
We're not certain we understand the "business" enough to truly appreciate
each and every contribution. But, we can certainly recognize the synergy
that existed and resulted in the show's high quality.
What a talented group you all were (and still are---we still follow your
careers)! Without the dynamic tension, acting ability and believable
performances, this show could never have garnered the powerful loyalty that
it has engendered in its extensive and devoted following. Ten years after
the initial airing and Forever Knight is still garnering new fans. The "Why"
is simple to answer--incredible storytelling and a superb cast. The story of
a Vampire with a conscience could so quickly have gone "over the top", but
the genius of the writers, directors, producers and of course the actors
kept it grounded. What do we like best? That's easy. We love the way present
day storylines were merged with those beautiful flashback scenes: two
stories for the price of one, beautifully interwoven into one glorious
tapestry. In addition, moral and social issues, always relevant, were dealt
with in a manner befitting their seriousness. But not everything was
serious, and many moments sparkled with a touch of humor. What a joy for us
to watch the interaction among all of the characters. It's clear that you
were all working hard, but, at the same time, you made it look as if you
were all having fun.
Not only have we new fans discovered this wonderful show, but we've also
discovered a host of long time fans waiting to welcome us. We are an
extraordinarily diverse group of people with one thing in common. We love
In closing, to all of the actors who love performing for a live audience
and who have wondered about the response of the TV audience to their work,
we say to you, close your eyes and listen to the applause. It is there for
you every single day. Although it's time on the air was relatively short,
this little show about a Vampire cop left a significant mark in the hearts
and minds of it's viewers and for that we thank you. Nicely done!
The Fans of Forever Knight
Origins of the Letter:
Scifi Channel Forever Knight BBoard -
Posted by - Gloria L. Price gprice1@c....... (KnightGlow) and Gary Emmert
Brief Chronology of the Letter:
6 Nov 02 - darkmaiden asks the question - "I wonder, do the actors, writers,
composers and producers have any idea of the impact this show has had on the
7 Nov 02 - KnightCrusader proposes an answer - "What if we wrote an open
letter to the Forever Knight Cast and Crew thanking them for all the years
of pleasure they have given us?"
7 - 10 Nov 02 - contributors sign on and ProfKnight offers to edit - "We
could make it a team effort...and I will start to cobble together
13 Dec 02 - ProfKnight posts our Letter of Appreciation and Kristin2
suggests the next steps. - "May I ask permission to forward your letter to
the main FORKNI-L list?...I also highly recommend sending it (printed out)
to some of the addresses on my "Save the Knight" page. That's one way to
help TPTB see it along with the cast and crew."
So the odyssey begins...
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:36:26 -0500
From: mclisa <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Admin: Forkni-l rules and holiday wishes
Whether you celebrate the Solstice, Christmas, Kwanzaa, or whether this is
simply the last full week of 2002 for you, may this be a safe and joyous
time for you and yours. May we all have peace in our lives and in our world.
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