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FORKNI-L Digest - 28 Oct 2002 to 29 Oct 2002 (#2002-317)

Tue, 29 Oct 2002

There are 21 messages totalling 498 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Questions and some comments (2)
  2. We will not be silenced!!!! (7)
  3. silenced!!!!
  4. silenced!!!!  LK Confidential
  5. One more question
  6. ykybwtmfk
  7. Forever Knight
  8. LK isn't Sony's fault (2)
  9. Dark Knight (2)
 10. Mel's ILCK Question (2)
 11. YKYB...

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:11:09 -0800
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Questions and some comments

2. In the pilot, why didn't Nick whammy the guy he
fell out of the window with? (the one with the machine
gun)
Schanke said the guy had been smoking crack for 72 hours.  It's gotta be hard
to whammy someone with that few brain cells left.
                      -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:09 -0700
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Questions and some comments

> 3. In If Looks Coule Kill, why weren't the women
> brought over by the vampire blood?
To be brought across, you have to be drained to the
point of near death, then ingest large quantities of
blood from a vampire. But the women in If Looks
Could Kill were simply being injected with small
amounts of blood. Ditto for Fallen Idol.

> 4. Nick was probably too consumed with guilt to think
> of this in LK, but wouldn't he still be condemned like
> they said in ND if he died?
Yep. Unless he pulled a Faust & was "redeemed by love".

> 5. It probably took a while for LaCroix to regenerate,
> but wouldn't Nick have felt the connection later on
> during the first season?
Sure, but he would have just assumed it was nagging
guilt, as usual.
> And shouldnt' he have felt a
> connection with Elyse (sp?)
Hmm, you mean Alyce? If so, then perhaps he was so
overwhelmed with guilt/relief after "killing" LaCroix
that he didn't hear the faint murmuring thoughts of a
baby sister. And by the time the "static" died down,
perhaps she was far away, thus weakening the
"signal".

> didn't she [Janette] say in IWR
> that she never brought anyone over because she
> couldn't stop in time?
I think she was thinking, quite naturally (for Janette!), of young
*men*.

Great questions!

Your very humble & most obedient servant,
Ligeia

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:30:43 -0800
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: We will not be silenced!!!!

“Because *we* want to end it. And this seems to be the only
way to shut them up.”

But it didn't work, did it?  It's been TEN FREAKING YEARS and they still haven't
shut us up!  AND THEY NEVER WILL!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!!

And if you didn't understand that, go read Sunny's new fic, "LK Confidential".
It will make you wince, squirm, seethe, laugh, and cheer.  And above all, it
will make you damn proud to be here!!!  Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to
go find a pudgy asian TV exec to pound into the ground.

                    -Megan Hull Thatcher, Poacher-- one of the many!


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:51:13 -0500
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: We will not be silenced!!!!

Can we get in behind you, Megan?


>  Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find a pudgy asian TV exec to
> pound into the ground.

--
Steph
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.richardbasehart.com

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:16:31 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Re: We will not be silenced!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Megan Hull" <mistrydder@y.......>

>"Because *we* want to end it. And this seems to be the onlyway to shut them up."
<snip>
>But it didn't work, did it?  It's been TEN FREAKING YEARS and they still
>haven't shut us up!  AND THEY NEVER >WILL!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER
>NEVER!!!! <snip>
>Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find a pudgy asian TV exec to
>pound into the ground.

I don't understand.  Is this in response to something written in a fic or
something someone at Sony has said?  The
vehemence and violence of the response were confusing, and very jarring,
esp. so if it is in response to something fictional.

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:22:29 -0600
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......>
Subject: Re: silenced!!!!

> And if you didn't understand that, go read Sunny's new fic, "LK
>Confidential"

Does this have an address?

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:28:35 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: Re: We will not be silenced!!!!

Apologies for quoting so much of the previous message
in my post.

Laurie of the Isles

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:28:33 -0800
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: We will not be silenced!!!!

Sorry if anyone gets offended over my previous message.  I'm currently on a
sugar high and very emotional.

But that doesn't mean I'm not still damn proud to be here!!

                     -Megan


"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:00:10 -0500
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: silenced!!!!  LK Confidential

I just posted it on the FTP site.

ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/lacountess_sunny/lk_confidential.txt

--
Steph
stephke@i.......
http://www.fkvoyage.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:56:11 -0500
From:    Portia <portia1@m.......>
Subject: Re: We will not be silenced!!!!

LOL!  This was somewhat along the same lines of what I thought when I read
Sunny's story. "g"  Yep, we're still here and still going strong.

Portia, proud to have contributed her own share of "poaching!"  "g"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Megan Hull" <mistrydder@y.......>
> But it didn't work, did it?  It's been TEN FREAKING YEARS and they still
haven't shut us up!  AND THEY NEVER WILL!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER
NEVER!!!!
>
>                     -Megan Hull Thatcher, Poacher-- one of the many!

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:06:14 -0600
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: One more question

> Melinda Morgan wrote:
>
> In If Looks Could Kill, Janette appears to have
> brought the countess over, but didn't she say in IWR
> that she never brought anyone over because she
> couldn't stop in time?

Yup. You expected consistency in FK? <g>

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......

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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:46 -0500
From:    Stef H <slyspy1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: ykybwtmfk

 I wonder if it was a fk related sticker.
If not I still want one.
STEF whos e-mail died, making her very angry.  There was some thought about
hireing a merc for revenge on her mail box.
  Jenice Coffey &lt;jenice_coffey@h.......&gt; wrote: When you see a bumper
sticker that says "There is a vampire in my trunk.'
And you think of Nick and his caddy.



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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:02:04 -0500
From:    Stef H <slyspy1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight

I'm not certain about weather the list quantity has gone up or down, but as a
new fan I can attest to the staying power the fandom has.  Nearly 10 years after
the show was canciled and you still have the support of a large and tight group.
How many fandoms can say that this long after cancilation they still have both
pagan and Christian groups.

STEF, is a one year fan still a newbe?

 wirickml <n.debrabant@g.......> wrote:
Is it me or does it seem that FK is losing steam?
I get the feeling less and less people are posting. That there aren't as many
authors
writing. That fans are losing interest.


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Date:    Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:22:55 -0500
From:    Don Fasig <argent@c.......>
Subject: Re: We will not be silenced!!!!

On 28 Oct 2002  Megan Hull wrote:
> Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to
> go find a pudgy asian TV exec to pound into the ground.

For anyone who might take offense at this sentence - it is a reference to Oysn
Nobuyuki, a character in "LK Confidential" by Sunny LaCountess.  I'm sure there
was no intent to slander (the verb - not the noun) any person or group of
people.

If you have any questions or concerns, please write to me or to Lisa.

Thank you,

Don Fasig, FK List Gardener
argent@c.......    ---,-<@
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7139/fk-lists.htm - Subscription Help

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Date:    Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:43:14 -0500
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: LK isn't Sony's fault

LK isn't Sony's fault.

For the record, it was USA who made the decision to pull out of FK, under
pressure from Ryssher. Ryssher was concerned that FK was beginning to overtake
Highlander in some markets where both competed in syndication. So they made
USA's pulling its funding from FK a condition of selling Highlander to USA.

That was what killed FK. We only got the last four episodes for syndication
because the German investors insisted.

Tri-Star had been all set to push FK hard at the annual trade show. They had
promotional items all made up and Ger had been asked to make public
appearances.

As for LK, the script was entirely James Parriott's doing. The first draft
killed everyone except Reese.  The second, which was the one that was filmed,
killed Nick, Nat, and Tracy.  Ger was directing. He took out the part where we
saw the stake descend on Nick and allowed Catherine Disher to play Nat's last
scene with a little wiggle after she was on the floor, indicating that she
wasn't dead at that point. JP restored the cuts. Ger took them out again.
Someone told JP, who got on a plane to Toronto and was on the set to make sure
the ending went his way. In the middle of the night, just as the scene was
about to be shot, someone from Sony called the set and overruled JP. That's
why we don't see Nick staked and and we can't be sure Nat's dead. (All we know
is that she's on the floor, apparently unconscious. Yes, Nick should be able
to tell. However he's distraught and he didn't notice when Janette returned as
a mortal in Human Factor.)

So, LK isn't Sony's fault. Not going ahead with the show for another year,
maybe, but not LK.

McLisa
mclisa@m.......

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Date:    Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:27:23 -0600
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......>
Subject: Re: LK isn't Sony's fault

> For the record, it was USA who made the decision to pull out of FK, under
> pressure from Ryssher. Ryssher was concerned that FK was beginning to
> overtake
> Highlander in some markets where both competed in syndication


Once again Politics ruins a really good thing

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Date:    Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:50:47 -0600
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......>
Subject: Dark Knight

In Dark Knight (this morning)

When LaCroix was pushed into the scafolding  (or whatever it was)
and got staked, when the got a close up of his face, did he move?

It looked like he was going to smile but they cut away too fast
(Or am I seeing things)

LaCroix was "staked" a couple of times
(Nick gave him a flaming stake)
LaCroix should of "died" on impact

In Fever, he said something about older vampires survive better

So the longer you live the faster/better you heal?
(or something like that)



I also noticiced FK won't be on Wed & Thurs

:(  BUMMER  :(

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Date:    Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:14:00 -0500
From:    Cecilia Long <celong@m.......>
Subject: Re: Dark Knight

Also, I dont think LC has any misgivings about consuing LOTS of human blood
after getting hurt which I think if I remember correctly helped the healing
process as well.



>So the longer you live the faster/better you heal?
>(or something like that)

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Date:    Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:14:05 -0700
From:    Helena Handbag <momra1@l.......>
Subject: Re: Mel's ILCK Question

>Janette appears to have
>brought the countess over, but didn't she say in IWR
>that she never brought anyone over because she
>couldn't stop in time?
The wonderful story, "Not the Mothering Type" by Amy R. offers one
explination. Anyone know where that might be archived?
(I can't find Amy's homepage URL!)

Tamara
visit Mom-Ra's Night Slash
http://www.geocities.com/mom_ra

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Date:    Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:57:04 -0700
From:    Laudon1965 <Laudon1965@c.......>
Subject: YKYB...

I'm listening to Diana Krall do "A Case Of You" and
thinking "This is *so* FK!".  Has anybody set a music
video to it?  It would work for NNP, UF, T&V, the
possibilities are endless.

If you have Real Player, you should be able to hear
the song and the album on their "Listening Party"
feature.

Laurie of the Isles
I doubt, therefore I might be.

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Date:    Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:25:56 -0500
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: Mel's ILCK Question

Here is one url for Not The Mothering Type

http://users.lmi.net/~akr/fk/fiction/notthemo.htm

Steph

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