FORKNI-L
FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Sep 2002 to 25 Sep 2002 (#2002-284)
Wed, 25 Sep 2002
There are 23 messages totalling 706 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Intro to FK
2. What Nicholas Knight is doing now (2)
3. Introduction to FK (2)
4. Kickstart The Knight Update
5. Reputations, Rambles, and Question (2)
6. ykwyhbwtmfk
7. YKYBOWFKW
8. Raven Awards! 2003
9. Black Buddha prop auction
10. FK alum on EFC (3)
11. A couple of questions (5)
12. FK/War Reputations
13. War Question
14. Welcome!
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:04:00 EDT
From: KnghtWtch@a.......
Subject: Re: Intro to FK
Hello all.
I just decided to add my introduction to this on line 'archives'.
I am a late [k]knight person and work till 6 in the morning. So I caught my
first FK episode "Rebecca" {Dying For Fame} back in 1992 after CBS Crimetime
After Prime Time. Thereafter I spent the following years following FK around
the dials.
At one point, I was seeing FK four times a week. USA twice a week. Wliw
channel 55 on long Island and even WPIX channel 11 in NY had the show for a
time. Talk about getting a fix of FK. I loved that time.
When the show went off the air from SFC back in 98, I got in machine
embroidering. So I started my own line of FK T-shirts for the fans since we
didn't have anything out there.
I started going to convs where FK was represented. Along with trying to get
to meet every cast member. Still working on that one. But I did get to see
and help start the Caddy at LCA2. What a kick as I am a CaddyWhacker at
heart. And a Die Hard.
I do whatever I can to get more of FK or making sure I keep FK in the face of
TPTB.
My husband recently retired from Seagram's Corp. So I no long have any
inside info about the corp's ownership of USA/SFC in relation to FK. I feel
bad about that. It was great knowing what was going on in the inside.
I recently purchased a new car and she is called "Raven." She's all black of
course. My plate is N Knight but soon to be changed to Raven. I wish I
could have purchased the Caddy. She would have a good home next to my other
collectibles.
Anyway........ Long Live the Knight.
I'll be a fanatic Forever as Forever Knight means Forever!!!!!
KnightWitch ;-]=
CaddyWhacker{first and foremost}, Die Hard, Ravenette with Enforcement
tendencies.
A Unique line of Forever Knight apparel is now available at:
http://hometown.aol.com/knghtwtch/index.html .....and.....
http://home.clear.net.nz/knightraven/pages.html
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 05:28:38 +0800
From: Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: What Nicholas Knight is doing now
Say... didn't our Nick know Shakespeare pretty well?
(I loved reading These Our Revels)I read the press release, it certainly
looks like something Nick could authoritatively write about!
Wonder what the W. in Mr Knight's name stands for?
Ell
>Sara wrote:
... a new book by the
>chair of the English Department at the University of Missouri at Rolla,
>titled _Autobiography in Shakespeare's Plays_. The author's name? W.
>Nicholas Knight.
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:58:23 -0700
From: Knight Ranger <knightranger1228@y.......>
Subject: Re: Introduction to FK
--- "Brooks, Julia A." <BROOKJU@m.......>
wrote:
> Many moons later, Barbara Vainio put out a call to
all of us who were also lovers of the equine kind, and
Les Chevaliers de la Nuit was born.
# Please explain more about this faction. I've never
heard of it? I can I join?
Knight Ranger
=====
e-mail: KnightRanger1228@y....... - or - KnightRanger4ver@y.......
Geraint Wyn Davies Fan for Life! (GWDFC/GWDN)
Dark Knightie/Nick & Nat Packer/Caddy Whack/FOREVER KNIGHT Die Hard
BLACK HARBOUR Lobster Yacht Lot/Harbour Light ** -- GAIRWOLFpack -- **
"We Are The Lemmings And We're Proud!"
GerII/Bridging/Indecency/Swindon98/NNP98/GerIV/Tucson99/Wolfville99/Wolfville01/GerVI/NNP02/Stratford02(MFL/DNGG)
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:17:03 EDT
From: SField8067@a.......
Subject: Kickstart The Knight Update
Posted with permission. Thanks Lisa :)
Please feel free to post this to other lists with thier permission.
Greetings Fellow Forever Knight Fans :)
Well it's been a long time between Kickstart The Knight updates so here
goes...
We are focusing our attention on getting FK on DVD, but we can't do it
without your help.
Having said that, what we need you to do is this: write
a short to medium sized email asking for all
three seasons of Forever Knight on DVD.
I will collect them from now until the last
week of November. After that time, I will send them out on your behalf.
Send these emails to me at: SField8067@a.......
NOT The ML please, and put: FK: DVD in the
subject line.
Now that's not all we are going to do. We are going to press (pardon the
pun) for the trade paperback novels to start up again. We feel that there is
plenty of interest on the fans' behalf to
warrant them, along with other merchandise. We will need your help with that
as well soon.
Okay, now "The Crusader". I know many of you feel that it has gone to the
land of the lost. Well, RL has caught up to the crew this past year or so,
but we are going to do our very best to get that going again by December or
January at the latest.
Will there be another KtK auction you ask?
YES! We are in the process of gathering items now. We have a few goodies but
need lots more to raise the
money needed for a new ad, so if anyone on the list has anything they want to
donate to the cause, please contact me at:
SField8067@a.......
I want to assure everyone that KtK has not
given up. We won't stop, and as a matter of fact we are just getting started.
We want to make sure you, the fans, get as much as possible from TPTB.
So that's the update for now. We appreciate the longtime fans that have
stuck it out with us, and the new fans that come along every day ,
discovering the wonderful world of FK. You are
the backbone of the campaign.
Love to all,
Susan
SField8067@a.......
KtK Fearless Leader :)
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:39:51 -0400
From: Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
Subject: Re: Reputations, Rambles, and Question
>
>Question. In "Baby, Baby" Serena asks Nick if he would sacrifice a mortal
>life if it would achieve his own mortality. Nick doesn't answer. So, i
>wonder - would he - would he take just one more life if it meant getting his
>back? Discuss.
>
Isn't that the whole problem with the cup. According to the legend to
regain his mortality Nick has to drink the blood of the sacrifical victim
from the cup. Which means someone has to die or be sacrificed. I always
wondered how Nick was going to get around that problem. Would he sacrifice
a life to become mortal?
Debbie
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:49:53 -0700
From: Jenice Coffey <jenice_coffey@h.......>
Subject: ykwyhbwtmfk
When you watching Oprah show and it has them remodling a loft in Toronto
shows up and you scream THAT IS WHERE NICK LIVES.
My parents looked at me oddly
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:43:52 EDT
From: Julia Kocich <JKocich@a.......>
Subject: Re: Introduction to FK
My reputation? I dread thinking about it <g>. In wartime it consists of
drinking Merlot, the blessed Valium salt lick (thanks, Bonnie!), and
handcuffs (the only way I can be gotten to TO). Otherwise, er ... I suspect
the phrase "doesn't suffer fools silently" may spring to some veteran list
members' minds <weg>.
I watched FK fitfully in its initial airings, but only really got seriously
involved once I got online (too late for the FK spoiler list, alas).
I attended my first-ever "con" at Bridging the Knight, and had a wonderful
time meeting Libs and Megan and Caliban and Illinois Jules and Wicked Cousin
Tippi and Gehirn Karies (now known as Rusty MacAndrews) and lots of other
wonderful folk. I got to hold the Rat Wot Kilt Screed, and razzed Kapelos and
Nigel about being "unsuited."
The one thing I was adamant about was that I would never, ever, under any
circumstances, join any FK faction. Absolutely not. No way. Period.
Need I say I am the current List Cobra of the Unnamed Faction list? What can
I tell you: factions happen.
This is a very generous and warmhearted fandom. I'm glad I found it.
Best,
Julia K.
jkocich@a.......
AIM: jkocich
MSN: jkocich@y.......
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:09:44 +1000
From: Silver Wolf101 <silver_wolf101@h.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBOWFKW
>The funny thing is, they have a niece that is a police detective somewhere
>back east~ and her name is Tracy!
Never known a police detective named Tracy or anyone named Vetter, though I
did know a Tracy once when I was in school. She was an exchange student
from *tada* Toronto, Canada. And she was blonde.
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:08:55 +1200
From: Knightraven <kiwisun@i.......>
Subject: Raven Awards! 2003
Please pass on to your lists!
Hi all!
Just a quick note to remind everyone that the Raven Awards Forever
Knight Writing Competition is about to get underway once again!
Opens 1st of October! Closes 1st of February!
New Category! POETICA
It has been a great success over the past few years in encouraging new
and seasoned writers to give it a go.
Check out the website here to see the categories and the rules of the
game.
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/knightraven
Raven Awards : http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sharkyl/
We have our judges and are waiting for your stories to be posted.
You may post by URL now too, so check out the Rules of the Game for more
info.
Questions? please ask!
Kylie
kiwisun@i.......
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:12:43 -0400
From: Quinn <quinn@g.......>
Subject: Black Buddha prop auction
Discover the secrets of the Black Buddha! Is it a good luck piece
or does it carry a curse?
The third seaon opener "Black Buddha" airs today (Weds. 09/25/02)
and tomorrow on SciFi. To coincide with the its airing we are
auctioning the Black Buddha statue from the episode in an E-BAY
auction at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1565959844
This item IS the prop from the episode (not a copy or a re-creation).
Included with this treasure is a cloth tote bag featuring a picture
of Nick holding the Black Buddha. Also included is an autographed
playbill from Ger's recent appearance as Henry Higgins in "My Fair
Lady" at the Stratford Festival in Canada.
As usual, this auction benefits children!!! Payment will be made out
to the Childrens Hospital Foundation. PayPal may also be used.
Upcoming auctions (every 2-3 weeks hopefully) will feature a Dylan
Thomas package (including an autographed whiskey bottle!), a My Fair
Lady/Stratford package (includes a playbill autographed by Cynthia
Dale & Ger and a tote featuring their picture taken during rehearsal,
an autographed t-shirt, etc.). Other auctions will feature an
assortment of autographed videos, DVDs, etc.
Visit the Black Buddha auction at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1565959844
or by clicking the E-BAY link on our web site (www.gwdfc.org).
Please feel free to pass this announcement on to fans or lists that
might be interested.
--
Quinn
GWDFC officer quinn at gwdfc.org
---> new "My Fair Lady" picture at the
Official GWD Fan Club site - http://www.gwdfc.org/
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:37:37 -0500
From: Carla Martinek <copper@m.......>
Subject: FK alum on EFC
I've got the digital recorder set to record Earth: Final Conflict off
Sci-Fi. (was catching up on the last three seasons which I never
managed to see....)
Anyway, looking at yesterday's episode when I got home, I had an extreme
FK moment - literally. All these FK alum within about the same 60
seconds of screen time:
Von Flores
Lisa Howard,
David Hemblen
and of course Lisa Ryder (appearing in a photo, as her char. had already
been killed off.)
Even though the show is over, I keep waiting for Nick to show up
somewhere. And maybe LaCroix - I'd love to see LaCroix vs. Zo-or.
Hmmm... what would core energy do to LaCroix if he tried to feed on a
Taelon? I shudder to think...
-Carla
copper@m.......
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:19:42 -0600
From: Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: What Nicholas Knight is doing now
> Wonder what the W. in Mr Knight's name stands for?
White?
--Ligeia
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:07:58 -0400
From: Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
>I have a couple of questions in regards to today's episode on Scifi.
>Does any one know if the books that Schanke had on his desk about
>vampires actualy exist?
All great minds...I wondered as well.
I managed to read the name of two of the books and looked on Amazon
and the Library of Congress. As far as I can tell they are not real
books, at least in the US. Now I'm wondering what the REAL books were
inside the fake jacket (the same thing I wondered about the book(s)
used in the Emily Weiss story).
--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 12:45:17 EDT
From: MRKKaye@a.......
Subject: Re: FK alum on EFC
In a message dated 9/25/2002 9:16:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
copper@m....... writes:
> Even though the show is over, I keep waiting for Nick to show up
> somewhere. And maybe LaCroix - I'd love to see LaCroix vs. Zo-or.
>
>
Keep watching the reruns. Nigel did appear as a military officer in a couple
of the episodes - season 2 or 3.
M. Kaye
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:55:32 -0500
From: Carla Martinek <copper@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK alum on EFC
MRKKaye@a....... wrote:
>Keep watching the reruns. Nigel did appear as a military officer in a couple
>of the episodes - season 2 or 3.
>
>
Oh, that's right! I think I started watching it in it's initial run
specifically to see him. It had something to do with an assassination, etc.
It's been said before here.... there's only a couple dozen Canadian
actors, and they rotate between all the shows produced. :-) If it was
produced in Canada, chances are you'll see one of the core group.
-Carla
copper@m.......
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:33:51 -0500
From: Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK/War Reputations
At 08:04 PM 9/23/02, katrinka typed these words:
>We
>never ever try and drive poor LaCroix nuts the way we did last war :)
Usually, the Cousins manage the job nicely all by ourselves. :-)
>I am terrified to ask anyone what my war rep is. I know, bonkers. This
>Knightie comes up with really odd things. The loft has *holes in the
>floor* from mayhem I've written.
I've been afraid to consider my own rep. I may have set myself up last War
when I wrote that I had a trunk of "torture devices" in my room, when we
were looking for ways to torture Vachon-in-LC. No, nothing like
that! (Get those minds out of the gutter!) IIRC, I came up with a
videotape of Richard Simmons, an audiotape of Roseanne singing the Star
Spangled Banner, stuff like that. PG-13 War stories, remember?
Hmmmm ... wonder how well Vachon remembers what happened to him when his
mind was in LC's body. Guess I'll find out next time.
Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:37:43 -0500
From: Lisa Luksus <tokaara@m.......>
Subject: Re: War Question
At 08:04 PM 9/23/02, Becky Hinson typed these words:
>I'm trying to figure out two things. For some reason, Mommy Brain has
>decided to take over, and I can't remember which War I was in (it was only
>one, and obviously not War 11). Maybe 10? That's one.
You were in War 10, Becky. And the fact that I still have not only the War
10 posts but also the War 10 Cousinly permission slips on my PC probably
helps explain why I'm always running out of hard disk space.
Cousin Tok
and the Cousinly kitties
tokaara@m....... / AIM Tokaara / ICQ 46441308
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:10:05 -0700
From: Helena Handbag <momra1@l.......>
Subject: Welcome!
I'm a bit late with this, but Hi, Sarge! I mean, Mel!
Glad to see you here!
>Everyone here,
>and I've noticed many other places in the fandom, has
>been very nice and made me feel very welcome.
Aren't they though? <to sibs: Y'all rock!>
This is the most amazing fandom I've ever been involved with. I especially enjoy
all the teasing that goes on between faction members!
Tamara la Mom-Ra von Handbag
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:49:18 -0700
From: Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
--- Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......> wrote:
> -
>
> Also, in the ending, does Schanke still think Nick is
> a vampire, or what? I'm confused as to whether he
> still believes it or not.
>
I've always wondered about that, but my brother (who left the
fandom after Last Knight) has always been not only certain but
adamant that Schanke left knowing Nick was a vampire.
=====
Viv
Don't annoy the crazy person
Life's a witch and then you fly
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:15:18 -0700
From: Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
I was always highly impressed (sarcastic) that he could get that much
information out of the local library. Not that libraries don't have plenty of
reading material on vampires, but no two books I've ever read have EVER agreed
on particulars of vampire life, abilities, prevelence, etc. The fact that
Schanke could simply get a couple of books from the library and pick up
completely accurate information (not to mention the fact that the book still
exists, and (I'm assuming) the author has not been neatly taken care of by the
Enforcers for giving away information) strikes me as just another plot
hole/contrivance that needs a fanfic fairy to sew up.
-Megan
phylis sullivan
wrote:I have a couple of questions in regards to today's episode on Scifi. Does
any one know if the books that Schanke had on his desk about vampires actualy
exist
"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:22:47 -0400
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
It has been a while since I've seen this episode so I'm going by memory... But
even if Schanke knew Nick was a vampire after talking with LaCroix, he may have
seen vampires in a more "human" light. As I recall, LaCroix was rather gentle
in a LaCroix like manner, and Schanke, being a family man and a father, may have
connected with that. Vampire or not, it simply became a "non-issue."
Libs
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:30:09 -0700
From: Ithildin <ithildin@o.......>
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
At 02:22 PM 9/25/2002 -0400, Libratsie@a....... wrote:
>It has been a while since I've seen this episode so I'm going by memory...
>But even if Schanke knew Nick was a vampire after talking with LaCroix, he
>may have seen vampires in a more "human" light. As I recall, LaCroix was
>rather gentle in a LaCroix like manner, and Schanke, being a family man
>and a father, may have connected with that. Vampire or not, it simply
>became a "non-issue."
I always felt it was a great example of how a vampire could use his
whammying ability gently, and that it could be more effective than using it
like a hammer. He gently guided Schanke so that he pretty much talked
himself out of the idea that Nick was a vampire. Absolutely masterful!
(says the Cousin in me <g>)
Show Your Pride! OFC PRIDE!
http://www.ondragonswing.com/dragonstone/ofc/
Ith ~~* ithildin@ondraognswing.com *~~ Denise
Home: http://www.ondragonswing.com/dragonstone/
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:40:21 -0400
From: Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Re: Reputations, Rambles, and Question
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:39:51 -0400 Debbie Clarke <dittany121@h.......>
wrote:
>
> Isn't that the whole problem with the cup. <snip> blood of the sacrifical
> victim
> from the cup. Which means someone has to die
Not necessarily a human life, though. Altun Canal is supposed to be a Mayan
site, and when DK was written ten years ago, it was still supposed that the
Mayans had been a peaceful people. We now know that their religious ceremonies
emphasized the self-shedding of blood by members of the royal families. I'm
not going into detail because part of it's not suitable for a family list :)
and partly because it's pretty gruesome. Captured kings of other cities may
have been sacrificed (I'm not clear on this detail -- it's very recent
information because it's since Dark Knight that the Mayan glyphs have been
deciphered.) But so far I don't think there's any reason to believe that Mayan
religion normally involved human sacrifices the way the Aztec did. I've always
suspected that the DK script confused Aztecs and Mayas.
This is a large helping of cheese, since of course it involves post-DK
information. :) It could also be argued that Nick had in mind the sacrifice of
the captured kindg.
In any case, the modern Maya are at least nominally Christian. I've wondered
for some time what use Nick thought the cup was going to be without the
priests who used them ritually. <g>
Anyone want to try the idea that what really caused the cure was something in
the physical material of the cups, and that two are needed because only one
wouldn't leach enough traces into the blood?
McLisa, suddenly haunted by the specter of a large wedge of Havarti ... <g>
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