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FORKNI-L Digest - 17 Sep 2002 to 18 Sep 2002 (#2002-276)

Wed, 18 Sep 2002

There are 18 messages totalling 554 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Abbreviations and another thought (9)
  2. Abbreviations <was: Re: YKYBOTFKLTL>
  3. Nigel alert
  4. Ger question (3)
  5. Today's Birthday:  September 18
  6. YKYBR/WTMFKW
  7. John Kapelos
  8. Another ancient speaks up

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Date:    Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:15:56 -0400
From:    allison <smilewithviolets@n.......>
Subject: Abbreviations and another thought

Nunkie is an affectionate form of Uncle which we Cousins are fond of calling
Lacroix every so often.  The NA's are Nunkies Anonymous... they have a
really "special" feeling for Uncle.... really special.  Hmmm...

Here's my other thought.  i always take for granted that there aren't people
who've been watching FK since it first appeared in "Crimetime After
Primetime."  (i know, hard to believe).  So, i wonder if there are any
interesting stories that people have concerning their "love, affection,
obsession" for FK -- perhaps how it started, how did it influence you, what
do the people who are seeing it for the first time around think?  How did we
get separated from the "it's a vampire cop...." people? (hehe, i hear that
so often).  Why are we still talking about this 10 years later? lol.  i will
happily prattle on about my "at least i think it's an interesting" story...
if people think this is a good idea, that way i won't bore the list to
death, prone to sentimentality as i am.  Discuss.

Allison
Cousinly UFfer
Smilewithviolets@n.......
"So pale, so cold, so beautiful
if not clinically insane."
So far out of canon i can't get back...

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Date:    Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:40:21 -0500
From:    Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Abbreviations <was: Re: YKYBOTFKLTL>

>Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:15:37 -0700
>From:    Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@y.......>
>
>....one I might use is OFV-Our Favorite Vampire....
>Hm...should we call LaCroix OOFV (our
>other favorite vampire?)....

I think we might have quite an argument on the list over who gets to be OFV
and who is OOFV.  How about OFCBV (Our Favorite Cute Blond Vampire) for
Nick?  What for LaCroix?

Although, it's just occurred to me that when it takes more keystrokes to
type the abbreviation than it takes to type the name, it's questionable
whether it can really be called an abbreviation <g>.

Bring 'em back alive!
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
Cousin of the Knight ~ N&NPacker
CotK Site -- http://lavender.fortunecity.com/evildead/879/

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:21:55 EDT
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: Nigel alert

I found this on a scifi website, probably related to the channel.

Interceptor Force 2 SCI FI, Saturday, Nov. 30
In this sequel to SCI FI's first Interceptor Force movie, another vicious
shapeshifting alien comes to Earth, but this time it's out for revenge. Set
in the near future, the alien is hell-bent on blowing up a Russian nuclear
power planet in hopes to create a nuclear winter on Earth. Former world
kickboxing champion Olivier Gruner reprises his role as the leader of an
elite team of soldiers who must join forced with the Russians to take on the
alien threat. The two-hour SCI FI original movie also stars Nigel Bennett (
Forever Knight), Roger R. Cross (<A
HREF="http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue229/screen3.html">First Wave</A>), Elizabeth
Gracen (Highlander)
and Adrienne Wilkinson (Xena).

Judy

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 01:37:41 -0400
From:    allison <smilewithviolets@n.......>
Subject: Ger question

A question just dawned on me.  Does Geraint act with the Stratford Fest each
year or was this it?  i suppose it might depend on his schedule huh.  If so,
i will be bound and determined to go next year.  And will take my boss more
seriously when i tell him i want to go to Toronto for the weekend (i work
weekends) to see "My Fair Lady" and he says, "Do you want to go?  You can go
if you want to..."  Gaaaa! what was i thinking????

Allison
Cousinly UFfer kicking herself squarely
Smilewithviolets@n.......
"So pale, so cold, so beautiful
if not clinically insane."

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 03:09:52 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

I first started watching FK in college.  It was on re-runs then, not Sci-fi but
some local channel.  The premise of the show, not to mention the actors skill,
and the fact that the quality of the show seemed better than anything else on
at the time (which one or two exceptions) was what attracted me to it.  Then I
found the original fkfanfic.com site sometime in the late 90's -- '98 or '99,
began reading, and discovered fan fiction.  I think it was the combination of
the fan fiction and the show that I liked, and still enjoy.  :)

--- allison <smilewithviolets@n.......> wrote:
> So, i wonder if there are any interesting stories that people have
> concerning their "love, affection, obsession" for FK -- perhaps how it
> started, how did it influence you...

=====
Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:09:51 -0500
From:    eowyn3@j.......
Subject: Today's Birthday:  September 18

Hi Y'all!

Today is the birthday of:       Lisa            llwright@y.......

You can send birthday greetings to Lisa at the above e-mail address.
Please NOT to the list!

People who share this birthday include:
Lance Armstrong, Bicyclist, Philanthropist, 3x winner Tour de France
Frankie Avalon, Pop Singer, Movie Actor
June Foray, Cartoon Voicist, voice of Bullwinkle's Rocket Rocky J.
Squirrel
James Marsden, Actor, BTVS's Spike

Significant events on this date:
1793, President George Washington laid the cornerstone of the north wing
of the U.S. Capitol building.
1830, B&O locomotive Tom Thumb, the first locomotive built in America,
loses a 14-km race to a horse due to a boiler leak.
1948, Margaret Chase Smith becomes the first woman elected to the Senate.
1990, A 500 pound 6-foot Hershey Kiss is displayed at 1 Times Square,
NYC.

I hope you have a VERY Happy Birthday, Lisa!

If you would like to be added to the birthday announcements, please send
your name, birthdate (no year needed), and e-mail address to me PRIVATELY
at eowyn3@j....... and I'll be glad to add you.

Terri
eowyn3@j......., eowyn@w.......
GWDFC, G-IV & V Attendee, Knighties Listowner, TKD, FK X-Stitcher,
Proud Survivor of Fk-fic  Wars 8-11, Keeper of the FK Birthday List

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:47:34 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: Ger question

Allison wrote:

> A question just dawned on me.  Does Geraint act with
> the Stratford Fest each
> year or was this it?

No, this was a special deal. He hadn't performed at
Stratford since (I think) 1984. He was asked back for
the 50th Anniversary season.

I hope he does do the festival again, because I had a
great time seeing MFL and DNGG, as well as the premiere
of King Lear with Christopher Plummer. I wish I had had
more time to see more of the plays. It would be a great
excuse to go back and indulge in more theatre!

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@a.......
www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:59:12 -0400
From:    Anne Gudnason <anne.gudnason@s.......>
Subject: Re: Ger question

GWD last appeared in the Stratford Festival in 1989.  Previously it had
been l988 and 1986.

Anne.



Nancy Kaminski wrote:

> Allison wrote:
>
> > A question just dawned on me.  Does Geraint act with
> > the Stratford Fest each
> > year or was this it?
>
> No, this was a special deal. He hadn't performed at
> Stratford since (I think) 1984. He was asked back for
> the 50th Anniversary season.
>
> I hope he does do the festival again, because I had a
> great time seeing MFL and DNGG, as well as the premiere
> of King Lear with Christopher Plummer. I wish I had had
> more time to see more of the plays. It would be a great
> excuse to go back and indulge in more theatre!
>
> Nancy Kaminski
> --
> nancykam@a.......
> www.nancykam.com

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:37:19 -0400
From:    clarkcindy <clarkcindy@m.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBR/WTMFKW

I had the same thoughts while watching the character, Brogard, make soup out
of all the rats he had hanging on his clothes line, when watching "The
Scarlet Pimpernel" at Stratford this summer.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Emily" <emilymhanson@y.......>
To: <FORKNI-L@l.......>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: YKYBR/WTMFKW


> You know you've been reading/watching too much FK when you see an ad for a
> horror movie about rats while you're watching the Pyramid special on TV, and
> can't help but think of Screed & all the 'lil ratsies.  <g>
>
> =====
> Emily M. Hanson
> Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
> My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us
>

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:03:46 -0400
From:    clarkcindy <clarkcindy@m.......>
Subject: John Kapelos

I thought this might prove interesting to the group.

From The SciFi Channel Newsletter #282:

The Moviehole Web site reported that Amanda Plummer, John Kapelos and Lance
Henriksen will star in Mimic: Sentinel, the theatrical sequel film that is
beginning production in Romania.

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:02:19 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

Well, as I mentioned once before, I kinda stumbled across it and said, "I like
Vampires.  I like cops.  What time did it say it was on?"  Then I proceded to
get multiple sisters and friends addicted. :)
I guess the biggest influence FK has had on me is my writing.  I have always
enjoyed making up stories, but never bothered to write down more than a few bits
and peices for school, even though my family told me my writing was good.  I
guess that's because I really didn't have a focus for it, other than Rose
constantly bugging me to tell her stories.  Besides, I really didn't have much
confidence in my skills.  When I discovered FK fan fiction, I thought, 'gee,
most of these people aren't professionals, but they write anyway.  I wonder if
I could do that?'  I finally had a motive to write.  So I sat down and started
working on 'Joshua', my first (and nearly longest) story.  I remember being
INSANELY nervous when I sent it off to Karen, who beta-read it for me.  When she
wrote back, her first sentence was 'First off, I love the concept.'  I was so
excited, I HOPPED to my next class saying over and over, "she liked it!  she
liked it!!"  And when I posted it, everyone was so nice !
and complimentery that I was never afraid to keep writing.  And the rest, as
they say, is history.
                                 -Megan
--- allison wrote:
> So, i wonder if there are any interesting stories that people have
> concerning their "love, affection, obsession" for FK -- perhaps how it
> started, how did it influence you...



"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:34:28 -0500
From:    Carla Martinek <copper@m.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

allison wrote:

>Here's my other thought.  i always take for granted that there aren't people
>who've been watching FK since it first appeared in "Crimetime After
>Primetime."  (i know, hard to believe).
>

I can't be the only one here....

I have been watching FK since it was first shown on CBS' Crimetime After
Primetime.  In fact, if this old and decrepit mind of mine works
properly, it was on at 1am on Tuesday. (late monday night) (Eastern time
zone)

I did come into it half way into the season, but after a marthon of
watching the first 10-12 eps on tape.  I had just moved to Midland, MI
to work for Dow Chemical, at the invite of a good college friend.
 Gaylin, also known on this list as Jasmine and the writer of the First
Unofficial Forever Knight Site, was letting me bunk with her and her
husband while I looked for place to live.  The weekend I moved in, they
had to go elsewhere in the state, so I was all alone.  Gaylin said,
"I've got this vampire show on tape that you might like."

I did a marathon between Saturday afternoon and Sunday, watching all the
eps on tape.  And was hooked.  For the rest of the season, half the time
we stayed up to actually watch the show live, and the other times we
recorded it, and planned an event for the following night to watch the
tape.  (dinner, popcorn, etc.)  We often had 6 or 8 of us watching
together on those nights.

So that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

-Carla
copper@m.......

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:44:50 -0400
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

I started watching when the 3rd season premiered. I knew about the show before
then, and almost think I'd watched part of a first season episode on CBS one
night. I just had never started watching it although friends in the local
science fiction group did.

I was in a serious car wreck (the second in 18 months) right before the 3rd
season premiere. The local science fiction group was meeting at my house a few
weeks later, and one of them asked if we could pppppplllleeeeaaasse watch it as
some of the characters were changing, and so forth.

I liked it! I knew it was not only on syndication but at that time USA, so taped
the episode when it was on USA. The next week Screed appeared. I was enthralled
(I also, unknowingly, was overdosing on valium given to me after the car wreck
so ANYTHING was enthralling by that point!) I called the friend who'd asked to
watch the previous week's episode to see if he had any more of Screed's
appearances on tape (he had told me he didn't tape to save, but had some
episodes taped).

Imagine my sadness when he said Screed was new! (And imagine the fun of watching
him when you are coming off such a high the doctor suggested you not even answer
the phone for 48 hours because you'd buy from every telemarketer who called....)

I found this list and FKFIC shortly after through a friend at a convention, but
didn't sign on until after the first of the year when the virtual fourth season
was announced. I started out there, then FKFIC, then JADFE. Due to someone
flaming me from a JADFE story I'd posted, and my reply on that list, I had quite
a reputation by the time Bridging the Knight rolled around (and received over
110 positive resposes to the story... is that a record? And it was NOT one of
the Screed/Nat ones!).<g> *blush* Before I know it, I'm also on FORKNI-L, have a
reputation of THE Ratpacker shared with Johnsie, and actually know Greg "Screed"
Kramer.

The biggest impact ... hmmmm. I'd actually have to say it has been Greg, and not
because he's from Forever Knight. He's someone I'd probably have struck up a
conversation with if I'd met him in an airport or ended up sitting with him at a
crowded coffee shop. Although I'm almost sure it is unintentional, he encouraged
me to act, encourages me to write, and even gave some vague but very much needed
personal emotional support to me during a very stressful, weird time in my life.

But he's not the only one who has done that - there's people on this list who
have stood by me when I needed them most, even calling long distance and
chatting for a very long time when they thought (and rightly so) I needed it
most. People have sent me gifts from around the world - little ratsies, usually,
but sometimes just a "shiny pretty" or something to do with archaeology or
history (which I love) from far away.

I've been on the 'Net for a very long time now, but have yet to stumble across
another "family" where people are so loving and caring. I've been fortunate to
meet so many of you in person, people I've partied with, vacationed with, cried
with, laughed with... All brought together for the love of a television show.

Who'd thunk h'it, eh?

--Libs

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:12:58 -0400
From:    Julie Skelly <ravenmerc@e.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

> allison wrote:
>
> >Here's my other thought.  i always take for granted that there aren't people
> >who've been watching FK since it first appeared in "Crimetime After
> >Primetime."  (i know, hard to believe).
> >

Then Carla Martinek wrote:

> I can't be the only one here....I have been watching FK since it was first
> shown on CBS' Crimetime After
> Primetime.  In fact, if this old and decrepit mind of mine works
> properly, it was on at 1am on Tuesday. (late monday night) (Eastern time
> zone)

No, Carla, you're not the only one (and I believe you're right...it was on
Tuesdays, but I think it was at 12:35am or 1:35am.  At least in the Detroit
area.)  Actually, I first saw the Nick Knight movie with Rick Springfield and
thought it was fun, even with Springfield's uneven acting.  I've had a fondness
for vamps since Dark Shadows which iis why I tuned in in the first place.  And
it being a cop movie, was frosting on the cake.

A few years later, my roomie brought to my attenetion that it was becoming a
series and that Ger was starring.  (Which then prompted her reminder to me of
who Ger was...I had seen him at Stratford, but I really suck at the whole
name-retention thing.)  I set the VCR (I get up at 4am.  Ick) and taped it and
we both watched it and had a blast and were hooked.

It was several years before I was online (somewhere between Wars 7 and 8 I
believe) so actually my FK kid, grandkid and great-grandkids were all on this
list well before I was.  Go fig.

Man do I feel old. *sigh*

Julie
ravenmerc@e.......
Natpacker

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:35:40 -0700
From:    phylis sullivan <phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

 Carla Martinek wrote:

I can't be the only one here....

I have been watching FK since it was first shown on CBS' Crimetime After
Primetime. In fact, if this old and decrepit mind of mine works
properly, it was on at 1am on Tuesday. (late monday night) (Eastern time
zone)


No , you are not the only one to have seen it on CBS' Crimetime After Primetime.
I also started watching it at that time.  What a show!  I have only been on this
list about a year and discovered the fanfic about 3 years ago.  I remember
trying to keep up with it when it went to USA and then finaly SciFi.  Does this
make us ancients?  ;}  Phylis


Phylis (Knightfilli) N&NPacker, Knightie, Dark Knightie
"Vampire is not a career choice."  Bart Simpson
email: phylis_s_2000_2001@y.......

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:34:49 -0400
From:    Dianne Bugg <ladylc@s.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

Well, I saw the original movie with Rick Springfield in 1989 and was
devastated that it wasn't going to be a series.  Imagine my surprise and
delight when I was watching the new series Crimetime after Primetime on CBS
in 1992 and discovered a show that looked hauntingly familiar.  I think it
took the first 15 minutes of the show for me to figure out where it was I'd
seen the show before since I KNEW the actors were unfamiliar.  From that
moment, I was hooked.  I followed it from time slot to time slot and finally
from channel to channel.  I didn't discover the online fan club until after
it went out of production but I've been here ever since.

Dianne Bugg

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:56:06 -0400
From:    Lisa McDavid <mclisa@m.......>
Subject: Another ancient speaks up

Ancient? I'm almost prehistoric! :)

I was introduced to FK when it was in reruns after the first half of the first
season on Crime Time After Prime Time. My best friend since Junior High (this
would be before some of you were born) told me about the show.

I must admit that my first reaction was "a homicide detective who's a
what????" followed by laughter. Still, we have very similar tastes and she
kept after me until I set the vcr.

My first episode was Only the Lonely. My fate was sealed. Ever since the
original Dark Shadows was new I've been a pushover for reluctant vampires and
the women who love them.

At the time there was no information available anywhere about the show. I had
seen a reference to the old Vampyres@guvm somewhere and figured that a list
devoted to vampires might know something. I went out on the net, found the
address and subscribed.

Thus I started down the primrose path. :) I saw the announcement when Forkni-l
was established and immediately subscribed. I've been in the online fandom
every since, although I didn't do my first stint as listowner here until
several years later. I think I wrote the first story in which Nick comes back
across, before fanfic was moved to the newly created Fkfic-l. I know I was the
first to post one. I know I wrote the first LaCroix and Nick and Nat's adult
daughter story for Fkfic-l. I haven't done much writing lately in or out of
fandom, but I've been hanging around listowning for the second time ever
since.

Oh, yes, and I am a veteran of the first war.

McLisa,
listowner of Forkni-l and Fkfic-l,
notorious Cousin who hasn't got a sig when accessing the net from here but
used to be notorious for the tagline "That will be trouble."
I appropriated it as soon as LC said it.
mclisa@m.......
mclisa

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Date:    Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:58:28 -0400
From:    Joseph LaCour <joelacour@c.......>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations and another thought

I've never really forgiven CBS for cancelling Crimetime after Primetime for
the David Letterman show.  Down here in DC CTaPT did not show, but my Big
Ugly Dish was able to find the show and I was hooked when I found Forever
Knight, Silk Stalkings, etc.

Then FK disappeared and one night while roaming the satellites, I found the
backhaul for FK, Season 2.  I missed Gary Farmer and the ugly wall tiles at
Nat's Bed & Breakfast, but was hooked and came to like the "rehabilitated"
Lacroix.

I won't talk about the 3rd season.

BTW, does anyone remember the NBC series "Cliffhangers" with Michael Nouri
playing Dracula?  I think that may have been the first vampire show to show
vampires having a "human" side.

Joe

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