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FORKNI-L Digest - 11 Sep 2002 to 12 Sep 2002 (#2002-270)

Thu, 12 Sep 2002

There are 17 messages totalling 431 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. FK Curses
  2. John Kapelos on CSI (3)
  3. vamp (12)
  4. apology (off topic)

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:00:40 +0800
From:    Elliza Rahim <relliza@h.......>
Subject: Re: FK Curses

>Elliza wrote:
>May Vachon need sustenance in your vicinity
>
>Cindy wrote : "This" is a curse?

I was always lame at thinking up curses? ;O)
Ell

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Date:    Wed, 11 Sep 2002 23:09:16 EDT
From:    DanaKnight@a.......
Subject: John Kapelos on CSI

Next Monday, the 16th of Sept, will be a rerun of the CSI episode with John
Kapelos on it. He's not in the whole ep, but it's different from Schanke.
(CBS is the network, 10pm EST, but doublecheck with the TV Guide.)

Judy

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:11:43 +1000
From:    Silver Wolf101 <silver_wolf101@h.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

I thought it funny that everyone pictured Nick to be Cristian (sp?)
But seeing Schanke as a vampire was hilarious.

Melissa



>Intersting that everyone (even the "Non-belivers")
>picture themselves as the lead vampire


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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:35:10 +1000
From:    Taliesyn <Taliesyn@c.......>
Subject: Re: John Kapelos on CSI

    What is the name of the episode?


> Next Monday, the 16th of Sept, will be a rerun of the CSI episode with John
> Kapelos on it. He's not in the whole ep, but it's different from Schanke.
> (CBS is the network, 10pm EST, but doublecheck with the TV Guide.)

-- Alexander J. Braun -- ICQ 12610993 - MSM Taliesyn55 - SM Taliesyn55
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?
So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the
universe". Marcus, B5

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:02:39 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

Er...Nick fought in the Crusades.  He was Catholic.  That has always been a
part of his character according to FK canon.  Or have I been watching a
completely different show all this time?

--- Silver Wolf101 <silver_wolf101@h.......> wrote:
> I thought it funny that everyone pictured Nick to be Cristian (sp?)
> But seeing Schanke as a vampire was hilarious.


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Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:14:17 -0400
From:    Dianne Bugg <ladylc@s.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

I believe she was referring to the character's name, Christian, not his
belief system.

Dianne


Emily wrote:

"Er...Nick fought in the Crusades.  He was Catholic.  That has always been a
part of his character according to FK canon.  Or have I been watching a
completely different show all this time? "

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:20:57 -0500
From:    Christy Stillman <cstillma@u.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

<<Er...Nick fought in the Crusades.  He was Catholic.  That has always been a
part of his character according to FK canon.  Or have I been watching a
completely different show all this time?>>

The episode in question was "Stranger Than Fiction." (My personal favorite
because of the Schanke as a master vampire scene.  <G>)   It's the one with
the writer, Emily Weiss (?),  who comes to close to actually describing the
Community.  Christian was the name of the character in the book with whom
Nick identified and dreamed himself to be.

Christy
cstillma@u.......

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:18:40 -0400
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: vamp

In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 8:02:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
emilymhanson@y....... writes:

>
>
> Er...Nick fought in the Crusades.  He was Catholic.  That has always been a
> part of his character according to FK canon.  Or have I been watching a
> completely different show all this time?

I think she meant everyone pictured him to be "Christian the vampire" in that
particular episode, not pictured him to be "Christian" as in the Faith.

By the way, I think he was Catholic.

Libs

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:24:31 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

Ok, it's been a while since I've seen that ep.  :)

--- Dianne Bugg <ladylc@s.......> wrote:
> I believe she was referring to the character's name, Christian, not his
> belief system.


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Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:41:17 -0700
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

--- Libratsie@a....... wrote:

>
> By the way, I think he was Catholic.
>
> Libs
Weren't all of them Catholic back then? This was *before* the
Protestant Reformation, people.

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Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:51:31 -0400
From:    Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: vamp

In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 1:41:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
viv11374@y....... writes:

>
>
> --- Libratsie@a....... wrote:
>
> >
> > By the way, I think he was Catholic.
> Weren't all of them Catholic back then? This was *before* the
> Protestant Reformation, people.

I'm well aware of that, and I'm sure most fans on this list are. I just typed
out "Catholic" instead of Christian in my response ;-) But I am curious - wasn't
there at least one other major break-away (... Eastern Orthodox or something
along that line). Would this be before or after Nick's human life-time? I was
raised Protestant so know more about that history, than the earlier history of
the church. Remember to keep it on topic, I'm curious and it might make good fan
fic information.

Libs

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:06:59 -0700
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: Re: John Kapelos on CSI

It's called "Crossjurisdictions". And the character is *very*
different.
--- Taliesyn <Taliesyn@c.......> wrote:
>     What is the name of the episode?
>
>
> > Next Monday, the 16th of Sept, will be a rerun of the CSI episode with John
> > Kapelos on it. He's not in the whole ep, but it's different from Schanke.


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Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:10:24 -0400
From:    Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

>Weren't all of them Catholic back then? This was *before* the
>Protestant Reformation, people.

Nope. The Orthodox Church was there before the Catholic church broke
off from them. They were centered around Greece and what is now
Turkey, but they were spread out all over the known world.

--
Emily Lacey
laceye@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:18:33 -0700
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

Okay, that's a good point. I don't think, however, that too many
of them were involved in the crusades.
--- Emily Lacey <laceye@a.......> wrote:
> >Weren't all of them Catholic back then? This was *before* the
> >Protestant Reformation, people.
>
> Nope. The Orthodox Church was there before the Catholic church broke
> off from them. They were centered around Greece and what is now
> Turkey, but they were spread out all over the known world.
>
> --
> Emily Lacey
> laceye@a.......


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Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:24:12 -0700
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: apology (off topic)

With Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement) coming up, I need to
receive forgiveness from those I have wronged in the past year.
Therefore, if I have said anything at all to offend anyone on
this list, I apologize. No offense was ever intended by anything
I wrote.

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Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:35:54 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

> Nope. The Orthodox Church was there before the Catholic church broke
> off from them. They were centered around Greece and what is now
> Turkey, but they were spread out all over the known world.

Actually, there were two churches existing
simultaneously, both claiming direct succession from the
Apostles--the Byzantine church, centered in
Constantinople (Byzantium) and the Roman Catholic
church, centered in Rome. I believe they eventually
became truly distinct entities over disputes over what
was considered heretical. The Orthodox Pope is the
Bishop of Constantinople, and the Roman Catholic Pope is
the Bishop of Rome. They split sometime between 300 an
500, I think. The two churches share many of the same
teachings and customs, although the Eastern church is
distinguished by its veneration of icons.

The Orthodox church is predominant in Eastern
Europe/Greece, while the Roman church is predominant in
Western Europe.

And let's not forget the Coptic Christians, who are
centered in Egypt. This is also a very ancient church.

And FWIW, Catholics are Christians, just as Protestants,
Lutherans, and Methodists are. We're a *flavor* of
Christian. <g>

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:45:51 +0000
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@a.......>
Subject: Re: vamp

For some good historical information see
https://members.tripod.com/stromata/id220.htm

The Byzantine Empire (and the Byzantine Church) asked
the Roman church for help in staving off invading
Muslims. Contantinople was besieged and eventually lost.

Something that many people forget is that the Muslims
*won* the Crusades, which were started in large part as
a response to the Muslim invasion of western Europe
(they reached the gates of Vienna, and well into Spain).

In light of recent history, this page is doubly
interesting.

Nancy Kaminski
--
nancykam@a.......
www.nancykam.com
Viv wrote:

> Okay, that's a good point. I don't think, however, that too many
> of them were involved in the crusades.

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