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FORKNI-L Digest - 14 Jul 2002 to 15 Jul 2002 (#2002-208)

Mon, 15 Jul 2002

There are 19 messages totalling 526 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. GWD guest book (2)
  2. wrong year
  3. Update 7-14-02
  4. Blu Mankuma on Dead Zone (No Spoilers)
  5. YKYBWTMFK
  6. BYE! (2)
  7. YKYBR/WTMFKW...
  8. YKYBOWFKW...
  9. Last Knight (7)
 10. Last Knight (my theory)
 11. Nick and Staking (another twist on LK)

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Date:    Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:35:22 -0400
From:    Lois Dodson <ldodson@b.......>
Subject: Re: GWD guest book

Quinn wrote:

<...respectfully snipped>

> Today is opening day for GWD in "My Fair Lady". He's relaxed, ready
> and looking great!

So glad to see that he got rid of that facial hair.

...<more snips>
(There is also a picture of Ger taken last night for those who want to
him check out <g>).

Is this like checking a book out of the library?  Can I keep him for a week
before I have to take him back? <weg>

My, my, but I am in a mood tonight,

--
Lois Dodson<ldodson@b.......>
"Don't think it won't happen just because it hasn't happened yet."
Visit my GWD Obsession page at http://www.knightmagic.org/geraint.html

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Date:    Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:57:53 -0400
From:    Stephanie Kellerman <stephke@i.......>
Subject: Re: GWD guest book

Isn't he looking good!


Steph
http://www.fkvoyage.com
ftp://ftp.win.net/winnet/fkvoyage/fkfanfic/
http://www.richardbasehart.com
"The sea..where each man, as in a mirror, finds himself", Richard Basehart as
Ishmael

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Date:    Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:13:03 -0500
From:    DPHEIL <dpheil@a.......>
Subject: wrong year

I saw an ad that said "1992 cadilac for sale"
& my frist thought was
"Nick wouldn't want that,
not enough trunk space"

Snowmen fall from Heaven unassembled

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Date:    Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:40:53 -0400
From:    "Anita K. Blake" <AKBlake@l.......>
Subject: Update 7-14-02

The FKFanFic2 has had an update, and has a permanent home!

http://www.fkfanfic2.com PLEASE UPDATE YOUR LINKS

Not only did I add several new fics, but there is also a way for you to search
the database for a fic. http://www.fkfanfic2.com/search.htm It'll allow you to
search by keyword or phrase and list them.

Wanna know how we have space? Thank Janice Cox for graciously volunteering to
help pay for the FKFanFic2's webspace! If you would like to chip in and help us
pay the 'rent'- *please* get in contact with me and I can direct you to the
fkfanfic2 account, even a little bit helps :)

I know that there are people who had asked me to change their contact or fic
info... I kinda need to be reminded just who you are <peeks out of fingers>

<coast clear> And I'm ALWAYS accepting fics, so send 'em on to me!

Anita
"These days my life is a cross between a preternatural soap opera and
an action-adventure movie. Sort of As the Casket Turns meets Rambo"

Anita Blake- The Killing Dance by Laurell K. Hamilton

Owner of the X-Men Fanfic archive,
Co-owner of the Unofficial Hugh Jackman Fan Club (the UHJFC)
and the new FKFanfic2 archive,
and member #13 of the Lisa Ryder FC!

AKBlake@l.......  ~  http://www.fkfanfic2.com
http://x-menfanfic.50megs.com ~ http://www.crosswinds.net/~uhjfc

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Date:    Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:55:05 -0400
From:    Don Fasig <argent@c.......>
Subject: Blu Mankuma on Dead Zone (No Spoilers)

Good episode, and Blu turned in an excellent performance.  For you Highlander
fans, Jim Byrnes (Joe Dawson) was on the jury as well.

In case you missed it, here are the times the episode will be shown again:

The Dead Zone USA, 12:00AM, Monday, Jul 15
The Dead Zone USA, 10:00PM, Thursday, Jul 18
The Dead Zone SCIFI, 8:00PM, Friday, Jul 19
The Dead Zone USA, 11:00PM, Saturday, Jul 20

L8r

Don  ----,-'<@
argent@c.......

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:41:30 -0700
From:    Megan Hull <mistrydder@y.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFK

YKYBWTMFK when... At work you hear the nurse explain
to a patient that 'the lady is here to take your
blood', and you get a sudden vision of Janette wearing
scrubs.  <G>
                    -Megan

=====
"Eternal nights too short,
How quickly melt away,
With all the love we shared once,
Forever in a Day."

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:13:02 -0600
From:    Rose Thatcher <dreamerextrodanar@h.......>
Subject: BYE!

Sadly, I must go the way of my sister Chris. I've been lurking for a while,
but I'll be sure to have some stories ready when I come back.
Mcmommy, or Listdaddy, if you could no-mail me, I lost that letter a *long*
time ago. :)  Thanks!  See you guys in a year and a half!
                       'Rose

Rome was not built by holding committe meetings.  It was done by killing all
those who opposed them.

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:56:52 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: YKYBR/WTMFKW...

You know you've been reading/watching too much FK when you see a truck on your
way to work that says "Lambert's Water Wells" and think, "So that's what
Natalie's been up to lately!"  :)

=====
Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:42:44 -0700
From:    StormBorn <thestormborn@m.......>
Subject: Re: BYE!

Rose went bye-bye:
>See you guys in a year and a half!

A year and a half?!  Wow... well, we'll be here when you come back.  In the
meantime, take care and have fun.

Molly/StormBorn
thestormborn@m.......
www.voluptuarium.net (I'm working on it, I'm working on it!)
"It's not fair!"  "You say that so often.  I wonder what your basis for
comparison is?" -Sarah and Jareth, Labyrinth

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:12:56 -0700
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: YKYBOWFKW...

I wrote this as a reply to someone else's YKYB, but accidentally
sent it only to them and not the list.
You know you've become obssessed with Forever Knight when your
finance professor tells you that "In the long run, we're all dead
and you think "Not quite *all* of us".
That actually happened sometime last year, but I remembered it
because the economists on the news are using it alot and my
reaction is still the same.

=====
Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:13:17 -0700
From:    Beverly Collins-LaCroix <beverlylacroix@w.......>
Subject: Last Knight

Oh no, it's on right now.  I can't bear it.  This was the episode that
put me on a week-long depression.  I've never watched it since.  I'm not
watching it now either.  <changing channels to Barney>
:-)
Beverly

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:18:19 -0700
From:    Viv <viv11374@y.......>
Subject: Re: Last Knight

--- Beverly Collins-LaCroix <beverlylacroix@w.......> wrote:
> Oh no, it's on right now.  I can't bear it.  This was the episode that
> put me on a week-long depression.  I've never watched it since.  I'm not
> watching it now either.  <changing channels to Barney>
> :-)
>
Barney??!! That's even more evil!!!!

=====
Viv

Don't annoy the crazy person

Life's a witch and then you fly

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:40:24 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Re: Last Knight

It depends how you look at LK. The episode was put together extremely well
and provoked lots of emotion. If you watch closely and put together the
monologues by LaCroix throughout the episode, you will see that both Nick
and LaCroix live on, though with Nat we can only leave to our
imaginations...

Excitedly awaiting season 1 (my fave)...
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."


> Oh no, it's on right now.  I can't bear it.  This was the episode that
> put me on a week-long depression.

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:40:20 -0700
From:    Emily <emilymhanson@y.......>
Subject: Re: Last Knight

It's been a long time since I've seen this again, but I've been wanting to get
it recorded.  I've got a plot bunny bouncing around for a fic, and I want to
watch LK again before I start writing it.  Can't wait until I get home from
work so I can watch my tape.

--- Beverly Collins-LaCroix <beverlylacroix@w.......> wrote:
> Oh no, it's on right now.  I can't bear it.  This was the episode that
> put me on a week-long depression.  I've never watched it since.

=====
Emily M. Hanson
Homepage - http://www.starbase-eprime.us
My Web Graphics - http://www.galaxyofimages.us

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:41:04 EDT
From:    Brianna Alicia Becerra <EchoTiarra@a.......>
Subject: Last Knight

Gods,I have never seen this episode before so I didn't realize how throughly
depressing it was. Even Ashes to Ashes isn't this depressing. I hope that
Nicholas and LaCroix do live on. For some reason, this reminds me of a
Shakesperian tragdy, paticulart Othello, but than again,I am rambiling.

Peaches,Cousin Bree

It depends how you look at LK. The episode was put together extremely well
and provoked lots of emotion. If you watch closely and put together the
monologues by LaCroix throughout the episode, you will see that both Nick
and LaCroix live on, though with Nat we can only leave to our
imaginations...

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:57:02 -0400
From:    Mary Combs <mcombs@e.......>
Subject: Re: Last Knight

Brianna wrote:
> For some reason, this reminds me of a
> Shakesperian tragdy, paticulart Othello, but than again,I am rambiling.

The original script actually did more than allude to Shakespeare.
With Nick and Natalie clearly dead (We were to see Nick drain her
completely, rather than risk her coming across and we were to see Nick's
reaction to the blow from the stake) "Last Knight" was supposed tp end with
LaCroix reciting a passage from Romeo and Juliet: "O child! O child!—my
soul, and not my child!—Dead art thou !—alack! my child is dead!And, with my
child, my joys are buried!"

I have absolutely no idea if Jim Parriott wanted viewers of that scene to
consider what Friar Lawrence says in reply to Capulet:
"Peace, ho, for shame! Confusion's cure lives not
In these confusions. Heaven and yourself
Had part in this fair maid; now Heaven hath all,
And all the better is it for the maid:
Your part in her you could not keep from death;
But Heaven keeps his part in eternal life."

Mary
mcombs@e....... N&Npacker
http:\\www.erols.com\mcombs
"RL=Real Life. It's that stuff that keeps happening that gets in the way of
that other stuff."--Sue Clark

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:25:41 -0500
From:    wirickml <n.debrabant@g.......>
Subject: Re: Last Knight

I have watched this episode several times.
I just don't see where Nick and LaCroix live on.
I have put the monologues together
and read the script.

It still ends with the stake raised and
the possible death of Nick and Nat.

Maybe I'm just too dense to see it.

Mary Lynn

 If you watch closely and put together the
monologues by LaCroix throughout the episode, you will see that both Nick
and LaCroix live on, though with Nat we can only leave to our
imaginations...

Mary Lynn

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:32:16 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Re: Last Knight (my theory)

Here's my theory on "Last Knight," and no I am not the first to think this.
When I first saw LK back in 1996, I thought LaCroix staked Natalie for Nick.
I never thought it possible for it to be for Nick till I read
interpretations on the internet. How could he? Nick's his favorite. I don't
think LaCroix could live on without Nick. Anyway, here is my interpretation
based on what others have said on the Sci-fi Bboard a few years ago. I've
come to believe this is how it ended...

As you all know, LaCroix's monolouges are said throughout the episode
"before" they actually happen. We see most of these repeat at the end of the
episode after Nick has drained Natalie. However, not all are repeated. We
must ask ourselves where did these go then? There is one important one
particularly:

[LaCroix is at the loft, standing behind a crouching Nick. He tells him how
a vampire staying past their time is death, and reminds Nick what he taught
him so many years ago. We then see the flashback of LaCroix leaving Fluer.
"Leaving is the purest form of love," and Nick turns to him...]

This one appears to belong after the rising of the stake. Also notice that
LaCroix is *behind* Nick, exactly how the end was. "Last Knight" was
deliberately made uniquely and mixed up to make us think and wonder. This
conclusion does make sense and, therefore, shows proof that Nick and LaCroix
could have very well moved on together, alive and well. Now here's my
slant... maybe, they could meet up with Janette too. Nick was thinking about
her in the flashes we see as he drinks from Natalie. :)

Hope this helps you all to understand it better. Arcblade, from Sci-fi's
bboard, explained it better some time ago. I don't know where his post is
now though. Now if only TPTB would make a new movie to help fix all the
confusion.

Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

> I have watched this episode several times.
> I just don't see where Nick and LaCroix live on.
> I have put the monologues together

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Date:    Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:46:02 -0500
From:    Kristin <kris1228@e.......>
Subject: Nick and Staking (another twist on LK)

This was brought up on the Sci-fi bboard (which has been extremely active
since April 1st). I would like to add it here.

Quoted from darkstranger:

"If some vampires don't actually <die> when they die, like LaCroix,
Francesca, and Divia, would Nick have died even if LaCroix did stake him?
All these vampires are from Qu'Ra's line, as is Nick."

Yes, I think even if LaCroix had staken Nick (but of course there's evidence
that this definitely did not happen in LK as I just said), I think Nick
could and would have survived the staking, especially since he had been
feeding on human blood a lot by the end. He is old and powerful enough to
survive. The "goodness" in him also makes him special (like LC was
mentioning when Nick defeated Divia). He's not an ancient quite yet, but he
is definitely not a fledgling either. The younger ones, as Nick put it, died
in "Ashes to Ashes" because of their age. Nick easily survived Divia's
attack and regenerated almost instantly. Nick has also survived
semi-stakings before. In "Fatal Mistake" Alexandra finds Nick in the present
and shoves a wooden stick right near his heart (if not his heart). He
quickly takes it out though and doesn't appear to be too badly harmed (he's
able to stake her back after all and then fly off to save Stonetree). Nick
also gets poked with a stick in "Dead of Night," but recovers quick from it
also. If he ever was properly staked, I believe he would survive, being
LaCroix's son and old enough to do so. He too, would probably take some time
to regenerate as LaCroix did (although LC was burned too).

Good Knight and Good Bite,
Kristin
http://knightvision.4ever.cc
"When you only have eyes for the Knight..."

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